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On September 30, 2011, the Pentagon issued a directive to all military chaplains to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies and to make military chapels available for any such private ceremonies.

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In response to the Pentagon directive, the Catholic Archdiocese for Military Service issued a statement that no Catholic chaplains serving in the military will perform or participate in any same-sex marriage ceremonies at any military chapels. In conjunction with the Catholic response, members of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty have issued a statement indicating that they will also not participate in performing same-sex ceremonies.

The Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty represents over 2,000 military chaplains. Serving as a military chaplain for 28 years, now retired Col. Ron Crews, executive director of the organization said,

“They made a very strong statement saying that no Catholic chaplains serving in the military will participate in any same-sex ceremonies at any chapels. We appreciate that strong stand. So we just wanted to let the Department of Defense know that it’s not only the Catholic chaplains, but that some 2,000 chaplains who come from evangelical backgrounds are saying our chaplains will not participate in same-sex ceremonies in the military.”

Col. Crews also said that they are petitioning Congress to pass a right of conscience clause to be added to the revised code allowing military chaplains the right of not being forced to conduct or be involved in any activity, such as performing same-sex marriage ceremonies, that goes against their religious beliefs and what they strongly believe the Bible to say about homosexuality.

I agree with the actions being taken by the Catholic and evangelical chaplains groups in making a stand for biblical principles. The Bible teaches us to be submissive to those placed in authority over us, but it also stipulates that to do so as long as it does not go against the will of God. First and foremost we are required to remain faithful and true to what God says in the Bible and then to those in authority over us. And in the case of same-sex ceremonies, the chaplains are following the directions from God and refusing to perform ceremonies that according to the Bible would be an abomination

I stand and salute all the military chaplains taking this stand, knowing that it could cost them their military careers and pensions. I also will continue to pray for them for wisdom and stamina in what is sure to become a military and congressional battle.

Read more: Thousands of Chaplains Refusing Pentagon Directive | Godfather Politics http://godfatherpolitics.com/1435/thousands-of-chaplains-refusing-pentagon-directive/#ixzz1aXTtlwo5

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They better read the 1st Amendment before they go asking congress to do that.

But, then again, congress largely ignores the constitution anyway so perhaps they have a shot.

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Now this is where I draw the line. I DO respect people's religious beliefs and respect that a church or a chaplain, minister, priest etc., would not want to marry gays as it is against their beliefs. I do not think people should FORCE their beliefs on others, whether it is gay or not gay. I think also that the military, who asks people to risk their lives should make available to those that want it religious services for their morale and peace of mind. I recognize that some people DO get true comfort in their religious beliefs. Why should they not have this if they are risking their lives or willing to risk their lives?

They need to let this one go and let the gays get married in civil ceremonies or in those churches that will allow it.

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If the military allows anyone to get married, they have to allow everyone to get married. If chaplains refuse to perform their assigned duties they can be court martialed just like everyone else.

Religious views are a good grounds for protest but this is a policy directive, not a religious matter.

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If the military allows anyone to get married, they have to allow everyone to get married. If chaplains refuse to perform their assigned duties they can be court martialed just like everyone else.

Religious views are a good grounds for protest but this is a policy directive, not a religious matter.

Chaplains are not perfunctory servants of the Military, each serves and must be endorsed by, a certain faith.

To demand a Catholic Priest give Last rites to a dying Jewish soldier is akin to what you seem to suggest.

Many if not most Chaplains would loose their endorsement if they did perform acts of marrying two same sex people or any other arraignment for that matter.

ON the legal side, it will be argued whether DOMA even prevents these can even take place on government settings by government personnel.

Just because someone is admirable in the service to their country does not entitle them to expect accommodation to be made for their every unique situation.

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Chaplains are not perfunctory servants of the Military, each serves and must be endorsed by, a certain faith.

To demand a Catholic Priest give Last rites to a dying Jewish soldier is akin to what you seem to suggest.

Many if not most Chaplains would loose their endorsement if they did perform acts of marrying two same sex people or any other arraignment for that matter.

ON the legal side, it will be argued whether DOMA even prevents these can even take place on government settings by government personnel.

Just because someone is admirable in the service to their country does not entitle them to expect accommodation to be made for their every unique situation.

As officers or NCOs they're still accountable to the orders they're issued.

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As officers or NCOs they're still accountable to the orders they're issued.

As of yet, they hav't been issued those orders and this action of theirs is most likely to prevent that from happening.

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As of yet, they hav't been issued those orders and this action of theirs is most likely to prevent that from happening.

Who issued the directive?

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On September 30, 2011, the Pentagon issued a directive to all military chaplains to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies and to make military chapels available for any such private ceremonies.

military-chaplains-150x150.jpg

In response to the Pentagon directive, the Catholic Archdiocese for Military Service issued a statement that no Catholic chaplains serving in the military will perform or participate in any same-sex marriage ceremonies at any military chapels. In conjunction with the Catholic response, members of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty have issued a statement indicating that they will also not participate in performing same-sex ceremonies.

The Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty represents over 2,000 military chaplains. Serving as a military chaplain for 28 years, now retired Col. Ron Crews, executive director of the organization said,

“They made a very strong statement saying that no Catholic chaplains serving in the military will participate in any same-sex ceremonies at any chapels. We appreciate that strong stand. So we just wanted to let the Department of Defense know that it’s not only the Catholic chaplains, but that some 2,000 chaplains who come from evangelical backgrounds are saying our chaplains will not participate in same-sex ceremonies in the military.”

Col. Crews also said that they are petitioning Congress to pass a right of conscience clause to be added to the revised code allowing military chaplains the right of not being forced to conduct or be involved in any activity, such as performing same-sex marriage ceremonies, that goes against their religious beliefs and what they strongly believe the Bible to say about homosexuality.

I agree with the actions being taken by the Catholic and evangelical chaplains groups in making a stand for biblical principles. The Bible teaches us to be submissive to those placed in authority over us, but it also stipulates that to do so as long as it does not go against the will of God. First and foremost we are required to remain faithful and true to what God says in the Bible and then to those in authority over us. And in the case of same-sex ceremonies, the chaplains are following the directions from God and refusing to perform ceremonies that according to the Bible would be an abomination

I stand and salute all the military chaplains taking this stand, knowing that it could cost them their military careers and pensions. I also will continue to pray for them for wisdom and stamina in what is sure to become a military and congressional battle.

Read more: Thousands of Chaplains Refusing Pentagon Directive | Godfather Politics http://godfatherpolitics.com/1435/thousands-of-chaplains-refusing-pentagon-directive/#ixzz1aXTtlwo5

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