Yulia sentenced

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I can't comment on the feasibility of imminence of dividing Ukraine. But it seems to me that Yanukovich has overreached in the sentencing of Timoshenko and has solidly screwed up. He wanted a balanced foreign policy between Russia and the West. Well, I guess it's balanced. He just pissed everyone off.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I can't comment on the feasibility of imminence of dividing Ukraine. But it seems to me that Yanukovich has overreached in the sentencing of Timoshenko and has solidly screwed up. He wanted a balanced foreign policy between Russia and the West. Well, I guess it's balanced. He just pissed everyone off.

Yulia isn't the first political opponent Yanukovich has imprisoned since he took power, and she surely won't be the last. Yanukovich is nothing more than a criminal thug and Kremlin lackey. He did time in the joint, he's had a few murders traced back to him, and he was Tsar Putin's man from the get go. Tsar Putin, Luksahenko, and Yanukovich. All three are nothing more than Soviet relics and criminal dictators who imprison and/or have killed anyone they deem a threat to their power.

Yanukovich was backed by Tsar Putin in Ukraine's 2004 Kremlin rigged elections which Tsar Putin has openly admitted to...the Kremlin rigging of those elections and his excuse for it was; "It was Russia's only path".

As far as the "feasibility" of Ukraine splitting up... "feasibility" has nothing to do with it, and "freedom and democracy" have everything to do with it. Your either going to be a slave or free. What choice would you make? Western Ukrainians are not idiots, and they see the writing on the wall. The have dealt with this Kremlin ####### for century's now and they don't want any part of it. Can you blame them? I mean seriously...would you rather be a mindless slave in the old Soviet style system, or free and democratic? To me it's a no brainer and it's the same with Western Ukrainians. They didn't ask for this bs, and they want any part of this it. They see the writing on the wall and they want as far away from it as possible. Nobody can fault them for that.

As far as Eastern Ukrainians are concerned...they asked for this and now they got it. If there is anyone to point the finger at, it's the peeps who voted for that Kremlin lackey mafia thug. They knew exactly what they were getting when they cast their vote for Yanukovich.

Welcome to the RUB take on life. It's been like this for century's and it's never going to change to the better. It's all those people have known, and will know. In the mean time they will be busy pointing the finger to other countries as the cause for all their misery. Russia can't have enough enemy's for the fact Tsar Putin needs someone to point the finger at when the masses complain about their sh*tty lives. Again it's all those people have known since the time of Rurik.

Edited October 14, 2011 by Why_Me

[Katiedog 6]

To why_me: You keep blasting Eastern Ukraine and the people. You pointed out, rightfully so, that Eastern Ukraine voted by a majority for the criminal now in the Kyiv "white house". I know a few Eastern Ukrainians of the younger and older generations in the Kharkiv area and NONE of them voted for the clown. NONE of them like him. Even everyday people a person has a little conversation with don't like him.

Eastern Ukraine suffered greviously under Russian rule and people in the eastern part of the country have not forgotten it. And there was a Holodomor memorial service in KYIV broadcast on National Television. The Russians in Moscow didn't have much to contribute. I was in Kharkiv during the Victory Day celebration this past May. Why shouldn't the people who suffered the most under Germany and its allies celebrate Victory?

The power, the money, the economic raw material is in the eastern part of Ukraine just like the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE! You didn't mention that fact. Eastern Ukrainians all believe the election was rigged. Fairly obvious to anyone that voter fraud takes place usually in the districts with the largest numbers of voters.

The Eastern Ukraine people I know are all proud of being Ukrainian and do not promote Russian ties in family or anything else. They are proud of being Ukrainian citizens but they are NOT proud of the country. Big difference.

[Lena and Igor 5]

Lena informs me that the talk now in Kharkov is that Yanukovich is threatening the EU of strengthening ties and achieving a stronger alliance with Russia. Ukraine seems to be going backwards into the Putin abyss.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

To why_me: You keep blasting Eastern Ukraine and the people. You pointed out, rightfully so, that Eastern Ukraine voted by a majority for the criminal now in the Kyiv "white house". I know a few Eastern Ukrainians of the younger and older generations in the Kharkiv area and NONE of them voted for the clown. NONE of them like him. Even everyday people a person has a little conversation with don't like him.

Eastern Ukraine suffered greviously under Russian rule and people in the eastern part of the country have not forgotten it. And there was a Holodomor memorial service in KYIV broadcast on National Television. The Russians in Moscow didn't have much to contribute. I was in Kharkiv during the Victory Day celebration this past May. Why shouldn't the people who suffered the most under Germany and its allies celebrate Victory?

The power, the money, the economic raw material is in the eastern part of Ukraine just like the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE! You didn't mention that fact. Eastern Ukrainians all believe the election was rigged. Fairly obvious to anyone that voter fraud takes place usually in the districts with the largest numbers of voters.

The Eastern Ukraine people I know are all proud of being Ukrainian and do not promote Russian ties in family or anything else. They are proud of being Ukrainian citizens but they are NOT proud of the country. Big difference.

No offense but Iv'e heard this similar spiel for years now. How bad Eastern Ukrainians suffered from Kremlin rule...which they did btw, but the fact of the matter is that Eastern Ukrainians keep asking for more. They knew exactly what they were getting when they voted for that criminal, and now they are receiving their just due. You ask for it, now you got it. Old as the hills, but it is what it is. I have no sympathy for those who voted for that crook.

As far as the Victory Day celebrations...fine and dandy, but they shouldn't be having those celebrations in Western Ukraine and they know it. History check here...it was Western Ukrainians that fought against the Commie butchers and it was the Commie butchers that invaded Western Ukraine in 1939. Lvov of all places... NKVD Commies butchered thousands in that city right before and after their NAZI ally's turned on them. So I would say having those Victory Day celebrations in Lvov did nothing more than start a bunch of #######.

Let Eastern Ukrainians keep their raw materials and out dated factories. But let Western Ukraine go. They want out, and I bet the farm in a year or less your going to see Western Ukraine making the split from the Stalin loving East.

Edited October 30, 2011 by Why_Me

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Lena informs me that the talk now in Kharkov is that Yanukovich is threatening the EU of strengthening ties and achieving a stronger alliance with Russia. Ukraine seems to be going backwards into the Putin abyss.

This is what Tsar Putin and Badka Lukashenko do. They imprison their rivals. It's the typical RUB way of politics. Now Ukraine has joined it's Rus brethren in becoming another two bit nickel and dime dictatorship. This ####### doesn't happen in the rest of Eastern Europe, only in the RUB countries. I guess it's tough to shake that old Golden Horde mentality.

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-investigates-ex-pm-murder-case-135951166.html

Ukraine investigates ex-PM in murder case

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A senior Ukrainian prosecutor says that authorities are investigating whether the imprisoned ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko was involved in a contract-style killing 15 years ago.

A televised statement made late Friday by Deputy Prosecutor General Renat Kuzmin further dims hopes that Tymoshenko, sentenced to seven years in jail earlier this month, could be released any time soon.

Kuzmin said that prosecutors are looking into claims that Tymoshenko was involved in the slaying of a lawmaker and businessman in 1996.

The West has criticized Tymoshenko's jailing on charges of abuse of office as the politically motivated prosecution of a top opposition leader by her longtime foe, President Viktor Yanukovych.

Tymoshenko's office denied the new allegations.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-heaps-more-charges-ex-pm-tymoshenko-141508027.html

Ukraine heaps more charges on ex-PM Tymoshenko

By Olzhas Auyezov | Reuters – 4 hrs ago

KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine's former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, sentenced to seven years in prison for abuse of office, has been charged with tax evasion, theft and concealing foreign currency revenues, the State Tax Administration said on Friday.

The new charges indicate that she is less likely to go free in the near future despite calls from the West for her release, keeping Ukraine's ties with the European Union strained.

The charges are linked to her activities as head of gas trading firm United Energy Systems of Ukraine, a post she held in the 1990s, an administration statement said.

Her lawyer Serhiy Vlasenko dismissed them as "baseless."

Tymoshenko was found guilty on October 11 of abusing her powers as prime minister in 2009 when she forced through a gas supply deal between Ukrainian state energy firm Naftogaz and Russia's Gazprom.

Tymoshenko has denied all charges against her and said her trial reflected a political vendetta waged by President Viktor Yanukovich, who narrowly beat her in the former Soviet republic's 2010 presidential election.

Echoing her position, the European Union has warned Ukraine it may not sign bilateral deals on political association and free trade if Tymoshenko remains in jail.

There is a possibility her conviction will be overturned by an appeals court or reclassified as a non-felony by parliament.

However, state prosecutors have said they could launch more cases against Tymoshenko and were studying her possible involvement in a 1996 contract killing of a parliament deputy -- which her supporters have denied.

Supporters of Tymoshenko, 50, say her health is deteriorating as she has been in a detention center since early August and now has trouble walking.

A member of a state-appointed medical team tasked with assessing Tymoshenko's health said on Friday she had been told to stay in bed but a diagnosis of her illness had not yet been established, according to Interfax news agency.

Tymoshenko was a leader of the 2004 Orange Revolution which doomed Yanukovich's first bid for the presidency. She served twice as prime minister before losing the 2010 election to Yanukovich in a bitterly fought runoff.

Her supporters say he is seeking to extinguish her as a political force before a parliamentary election next October.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-lawmakers-reject-tymoshenko-release-125409287.html

Ukraine lawmakers reject Tymoshenko release

AP – 2 hrs 36 mins ago

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian lawmakers on Tuesday rejected legal amendments that could have allowed the release of jailed former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, defying Western pressure to free the country's top opposition leader.

Parliament, dominated by President Viktor Yanukovych, killed a set of proposals that would have lifted Tymoshenko's status as a felon and resulted in her release.

Pro-Tymoshenko's lawmakers walked out of the session hall in protest, shouting "Shame!"

Tymoshenko, 50, was sentenced to seven years in jail last month for abusing office while negotiating a gas supply deal with Russia in 2009. The United States and the European Union have harshly condemned that verdict as politically motivated. Tymoshenko charges that Yanukovych, her longtime foe, has ordered the legal assault against her to bar her from elections.

Tymoshenko has appealed the ruling, but her lawyers believe the decision will be upheld. Tymoshenko is pinning hopes on getting the verdict overturned by the European Court of Human Rights, but that could take months, if not years and it is unclear if such a ruling would be legally binding in Ukraine.

[1HappyGuy 45]

Still, no big surprise. Yanukovych is off to Poland to celebrate the anniversary of a university. He will say, "I was out of the country" when the vote was taken. Everything is so blatantly wrong, but his administration just keeps plodding along. Yulia's family and doctor are not allowed to visit, but prosecutors can still visit her to ask additional questions about new charges. Huh, no family to visit, but okay for new charges after visits.

All of this is making Ukraine look very bad, but of course Yanukovych doesn't care about anything except working to establish himself as President for Life.

[ONA 133]

It Never Rains, but It Pours on Tymoshenko

MANHATTAN (CN) - Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, whose recent imprisonment on corruption charges in her homeland was denounced as political payback from her successor, faces a federal lawsuit here from a gas company that claims she owes it $18.3 million.

Tymoshenko, an economist, became wealthy in the gas industry before she became a leader of the 2004-2005 Orange Revolution, in which the rigged electoral victory of Viktor Yanukovych was canceled, and Viktor Yushchenko was elected president in a second round of voting.

Yushchenko fulfilled a campaign promise and appointed Tymoshenko prime minister, though political infighting caused him to dismiss her 7 months later.

She became prime minister again in a coalition government with Yushchenko in 2007, though the two became increasingly hostile to one another.

When their old political enemy Yanukovych defeated Tymoshenko in the February 2010 presidential election, Tymoshenko denounced it as rigged, though she remained prime minister under Ukraine's parliamentary system.

Yanukovych forced her from office and Tymoshenko became the administration's most vocal and visible critic. In an April lawsuit this year, Tymoshenko claimed the Yanukovych administration had dismantled Ukraine's independent judiciary by gaining the "allegiance of at least 16 of the 20 members on the Supreme Council of Judges."

Corruption charges against her followed, and on Oct. 11 this year, after a trial in which Yanukovych testified against her, Tymoshenko was sentenced to 7 years in prison for abuse of power, and was ordered to pay Ukraine $188 million.

The charges included claims that Tymoshenko had exceeded her power as prime minister by ordering Naftogaz, Ukraine's national energy company, to sign a natural gas deal with Russia.

Critics of Yanukovych claim he threw her in prison because she was likely to defeat him in the next election. Tymoshenko compared her sentencing to Stalin's purges. The United States, the European Union and Russia all condemned the verdict.

On Friday, Nov. 2, three weeks after her sentencing, Massachusetts-based Universal Trading & Investment Co. (UTICo) sued Tymoshenko in Manhattan, trying to collect on a 6-year-old judgment from another U.S. court.

In its 27-page federal complaint, UTICo accuses Tymoshenko of decades of corrupt dealings through her company, United Energy Systems of Ukraine (UESU).

"Tymoshenko became UESU's founder in 1995 and has become a garnishee unlawfully holding UESU's assets under her personal control," the complaint states. "Apart from her business activities, Tymoshenko has also engaged in a political career in Ukraine, twice rising to a position of a Prime Minister, using government positions to advance the interests of UESU. Both times Tymoshenko was removed from those positions on allegations of corruption. Tymoshenko has faced numerous criminal charges alleging bribery, conversion and fraud. In October of 2011 she was convicted in Ukraine was further charged, in a new case, with the financial crimes as the principal of UESU."

UTICo accused UESU of racketeering in Boston Federal Court in 1997. Discovery dragged on for almost 8 years until UTICo won an $18.3 million default judgment.

"n connection with UTICo's judgment ultimately entered on July 7, 2005 of UTICo's judgment [sic], Tymoshenko intensified her efforts to circumvent its collection, acting in an enterprise with UESU," UTICo's complaint states. "When the outcome in UTICo's litigation was already clear, Tymoshenko paid $125,000 to an intermediary to bribe the judges of the Supreme Court to make a decision shielding UESU and its principals from liability. On information and belief, the sources was [sic] UESU's proceeds. It is well established in the public domain and follows from the charges in Ukraine that Tymoshenko paid other bribes to obtain decisions favorable to making UESU judgment-proof."UTICo claims that "Tymoshenko, illegally interfering into the judiciary in Ukraine, obtained on August 19, 2005 a decision, lifting the government's lien on UESU's assets for about $62.8 million. On November 18, 2005 Tymoshenko illegally forced the Supreme Court's closing all UESU-related charges."

UTICo demands the $18.3 million, and treble damages, on a slew of charges, including RICO conspiracy, conversion, unjust enrichment, and fraudulent conveyance.

It is represented by Peter Joseph of New York City and George Lambert of Washington.

What's going on?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

What's going on?

That's a good read you posted. Yulia was and is corrupt, and I wouldn't be surprised if she is guilty of all those things written about her in that article you posted. What she isn't guilty of is exceeding her authority by signing the deal with Tsar Putin for the gas. Ukraine got that gas well under the market price. If she had screwed anyone by signing that deal Yuskenko would have been the first one to say something seeing how he hates her guts...and for good reason. She's a back stabbing thief. But if your going to charge her with something, charge her for something she is actually guilty of.

This entire charade is old time Rus politics leading to repressive dictatorship. Russia, Belarus and Ukraine...all three of them run by old time criminals that are doing things the "old way".

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://news.yahoo.com/jailed-ukraine-ex-pm-tymoshenko-seeks-medical-help-133943787.html

Jailed Ukraine ex-PM Tymoshenko seeks medical help

By MARIA DANILOVA | AP – 12 hrs ago

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine's jailed former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko asked international medical organizations Friday to help examine and treat her worsening health conditions.

Tymoshenko, who is serving a seven-year jail sentence on charges of abuse of office, says she is suffering from severe back pain and from mysterious bruises on her body. She says she doesn't trust government-appointed doctors and accuses authorities of refusing to let independent medical experts see her.

Tymoshenko's top aide Oleksandr Turchynov said she has turned to the International Committee of the Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders and asked them to intervene to help her get examined and treated properly.

The U.S. and the European Union have sharply condemned Tymoshenko's sentence last month as politically motivated.

Tymoshenko's office said authorities have ignored the fact that Tymoshenko cannot walk or stand up because of the back pain and have held daily hours-long interrogations in her jail cell, questioning her as she lay in bed, unable to move.

"Tymoshenko's life is in danger, a sick person is being tortured," Turchynov told reporters Friday.

Tymoshenko charges that President Viktor Yanukovych, her longtime foe, has ordered her imprisonment to bar her from elections.

Yanukovych has resisted Western pressure to release Tymoshenko despite threats that the EU would scrap a landmark association agreement with Ukraine. Earlier this week, the Parliament controlled by Yanukovych supporters refused to adopt legal amendments that would have turned Tymoshenko into a non-felon and allowed her release.

A member of Tymoshenko's party said Friday the party plans to reintroduce the bill soon, hoping that Western pressure will persuade lawmakers to adopt it.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

It's time for Western Ukraine to do the right thing and succeed while forming it's own country. The ship is sinking, and it's sinking fast.

[ONA 133]

That's a good read you posted. Yulia was and is corrupt, and I wouldn't be surprised if she is guilty of all those things written about her in that article you posted. What she isn't guilty of is exceeding her authority by signing the deal with Tsar Putin for the gas. Ukraine got that gas well under the market price. If she had screwed anyone by signing that deal Yuskenko would have been the first one to say something seeing how he hates her guts...and for good reason. She's a back stabbing thief. But if your going to charge her with something, charge her for something she is actually guilty of.

This entire charade is old time Rus politics leading to repressive dictatorship. Russia, Belarus and Ukraine...all three of them run by old time criminals that are doing things the "old way".

It's just... the timing is interesting.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-eu-summit-clouded-tymoshenkos-jailing-082301260.html

Ukraine-EU summit clouded by Tymoshenko's jailing

AP – 1 hr 11 mins ago

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A landmark cooperation agreement between Ukraine and the European Union is likely to be derailed Monday over the jailing of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine and EU officials had long planned to use the Monday Ukraine-EU summit to commit to the deal outlining deep political and economic cooperation between Kiev and the 27-nation bloc it aspires to join.

But Brussels is likely to reject the agreement after a court handed a seven-year jail sentence to Tymoshenko, now the country's top opposition leader, on charges of abuse of office, officials and experts have said. Both the EU and the United States have strongly condemned the October verdict as politically motivated and demanded her release.

Tymoshenko was found guilty of overstepping her authorities while negotiating a natural gas import contract with Russian in 2009. She maintains her innocence and charges that President Viktor Yanukovych, her longtime foe, masterminded the legal assault against her in order to bar her from next year's elections.

Yanukovych has resisted the pressure to release her, saying prosecutors and courts have acted independently in Tymoshenko's trial. Moreover, Tymoshenko has been charged and investigated in scores of new criminal cases since her imprisonment. A court has ordered her indefinite arrest as part of new probe, even if her current jail term is overturned.

A Kiev court is now hearing an appeal of her sentence, and the next hearing is scheduled for Tuesday. Tymoshenko has been unable to attend the appeals hearings, claiming severe back and skin problems, and saying the authorities are denying her proper treatment.

Tymoshenko's jailing has presented the EU with a dilemma. Some experts believe that Brussels should not be partners with a government that throws opposition leaders in jail. Others say that snubbing Ukraine would push it back under Russia's influence as Kiev is courting Moscow for cheaper natural gas.