Fiancee's aunt co-sponsoring my fiancee

[Paul and Haidee 11]

Would my fiancee's aunt be able to co-sponsor her with the I134?

[Ro Damon 7]

Anyone that ready and willing to take on that responsible and have passed the poverty guideline can co-sponsor!! My friend will be co-sponsoring for my Finace..... The gov just needs to know by whatever means that your fiance would be a burden and need public assistance.

As long as her aunt is a resident/US citizen

All the best,

R

Edited October 10, 2011 by Ro Damon

[katie & sifa 25]

Is her aunt a US Citizen?

[Paul and Haidee 11]

I am not 100% sure, but I am going to assume that she is a citizen because she has lived here for a long time and is married to an American. I'll have to ask Haidee when she wakes up but I think she is a citizen.

Is her aunt a US Citizen?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Though I've never heard of this situation I'd be kind of worried that since the Philippines is a country known for fraud the USEM might think it's suspicious that a relative of hers in the US is co-sponsoring. It could raise questions as how how you came to know her and if the marriage is just to get her to the US.

[Ro Damon 7]

I am not 100% sure, but I am going to assume that she is a citizen because she has lived here for a long time and is married to an American. I'll have to ask Haidee when she wakes up but I think she is a citizen.

Citizen or Resident doesnt matter. as you can see on the i-134 form they ask that question and all a resident needs to do is to provide their Alien Number on the form just like a citizen would have to provide proof of citizenship.

All that matters is that she passes the poverty guidelines

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

All that matters is that she passes the poverty guidelines

Not really, unless you have knowledge of the US Embassy in the Philippines I would suggest you slow you role on giving advice here.

COs have a lot of discretion in the area of the Affidavit of Support. They can choose to not accept a Co-Sponsor and Manila is notorious for being extremely picky on this subject.

Add to that the fact that The Philippines is a High Fraud Country for US Immigration.

If I was doing a K-1 in Manila and I wasn't either a college student or a recent college graduate (the 2 situations they are most accepting of Co-Sponsors) then I would do everything I can to get my income about the poverty line for a 2 person household.

I also wouldn't do anything that makes it possibly look like her family in the US is involved in the process. It's not unheard of for a Filipino family to do whatever it takes to get a relative to the US. I personally know of a young lady that married her Gay Uncle's "partner" just for immigration purposes (I really hope they are discovered at ROC).

[Ro Damon 7]

Not really, unless you have knowledge of the US Embassy in the Philippines I would suggest you slow you role on giving advice here.

COs have a lot of discretion in the area of the Affidavit of Support. They can choose to not accept a Co-Sponsor and Manila is notorious for being extremely picky on this subject.

Add to that the fact that The Philippines is a High Fraud Country for US Immigration.

If I was doing a K-1 in Manila and I wasn't either a college student or a recent college graduate (the 2 situations they are most accepting of Co-Sponsors) then I would do everything I can to get my income about the poverty line for a 2 person household.

I also wouldn't do anything that makes it possibly look like her family in the US is involved in the process. It's not unheard of for a Filipino family to do whatever it takes to get a relative to the US. I personally know of a young lady that married her Gay Uncle's "partner" just for immigration purposes (I really hope they are discovered at ROC).

Yes am not aware of the Fraudulent activities in the Philippines when it comes to immigration. But if the proposer of this question is genuine then Im sure they would have no problem showing that, and if it does come to it can find someone else.

Its about building a sustainable case with admissible evidence.

Best of luck to you Paul and Haidee

Keep on reading post and as always you should check out the US Embassy website in the Philippines

R

[Paul and Haidee 11]

Ya I mean we have a lot of evidence that it is a legitimate relationship. Phone calls, emails, chat logs, etc. Also, I am in college which is why I am having so much trouble with the finances.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Is her aunt a US Citizen?

That does not matter.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Ya I mean we have a lot of evidence that it is a legitimate relationship. Phone calls, emails, chat logs, etc. Also, I am in college which is why I am having so much trouble with the finances.

Well being in college is a definite positive in regards to having a Co-Sponsor.

If I was in your situation I would seriously try to find a Co-Sponsor from my side of the family. The thing that the CO doesn't need to prove anything to deny a visa. The burden of proving things is on the applicant. If the CO thinks something is amiss then they will simply reject the Co-Sponsor and you're dead in the water.

I honestly wouldn't use her relative(s) for sponsorship if she's from any SE Asian country or China because these are countries where a lot of people go to great lengths to get to the US (sometimes illegally). It's not uncommon for families to pay healthy sums to get someone to the US (and via legal immigration paths are worth more money) because if daughter comes today then Mom & Dad can follow in a few years and eventually siblings can get here.

Don't think like a US Citizen who's doing things right. Think about from the perspective of the CO reviewing your case. If the Aunt is providing support as the Co-Sponsor it raises questions:

-> Why isn't your family providing the needed Co-Sponsorship?

-> What else might her family be providing to support her immigration to the US?

-> What else should they be looking for in your case file, are there any inconsistencies?

Of course I could be totally wrong and it never crosses the CO's mind. The thing is wouldn't you rather be extra cautious on something as important as this and try to avoid raising any red flags?

[Samu and JoJo 0]

I'm more or less repeating what everyone else here has stated...your answer is: YES! My parents co-sponsored for me and my fiance and we were approved, you simply have to make sure that her income meets the requirements.

[Anh map 2,098]

Manila is one of the tougher embassies and the practices in other countries do not necessarily apply here. It's always best to get info from those that have recently passed through the embassy/consulate in question.

From what we have seen here on VJ, Manila will accept a close relative as a co-sponsor. Typically this is the petitioner's close relative, not the beneficiary's. For all the reasons stated previously regarding immigration from the Philippines.

A K1 co-sponsor that is a relative of the beneficiary may raise questions about the validity of the relationship. Is this immigration for love, or simply a way to join other family members in the US? (Interviewing officer's question, not my question)

I'm more or less repeating what everyone else here has stated...your answer is: YES! My parents co-sponsored for me and my fiance and we were approved, you simply have to make sure that her income meets the requirements.

Different embassy, different practices. Manila is nothing like what you likely experienced.

Anyone that ready and willing to take on that responsible and have passed the poverty guideline can co-sponsor!! My friend will be co-sponsoring for my Finace..... The gov just needs to know by whatever means that your fiance would be a burden and need public assistance.

As long as her aunt is a resident/US citizen

All the best,

R

Unfortunately, not at all the realities of Manila. Co-sponsorship for K visas can be tough.

[Samu and JoJo 0]

Manila is one of the tougher embassies and the practices in other countries do not necessarily apply here. It's always best to get info from those that have recently passed through the embassy/consulate in question.

From what we have seen here on VJ, Manila will accept a close relative as a co-sponsor. Typically this is the petitioner's close relative, not the beneficiary's. For all the reasons stated previously regarding immigration from the Philippines.

A K1 co-sponsor that is a relative of the beneficiary may raise questions about the validity of the relationship. Is this immigration for love, or simply a way to join other family members in the US? (Interviewing officer's question, not my question)

Different embassy, different practices. Manila is nothing like what you likely experienced.

Unfortunately, not at all the realities of Manila. Co-sponsorship for K visas can be tough.

This may be true, however the rules for the USCIS remains the same, whether they approve it or not (true) depends upon the embassy. However, my parents would've been close relatives and I don't see how it would be a problem as far as being denied goes. As long as they know you are taken care of and wont be a public burden then you should be all set to go. They are looking for criminals and people who are going to be an issue, as far as denial goes. If you have the money needed to support yourself and not become an issue, then there shouldn't be an ISSUE lol. Those who are denied visas often have other problems as well, like confusing background history or unsubstantial evidence ect.

If their aunt can support them and meet the requirements, then they should go for it...they haven't got anything to lose if it's the best option they have. And I certainly wouldn't stress over it before they even get approved or denied yet. Chances are they will be approved over on our end, and the rest will be left up to the interview.

Anyways, you are right that certain Embassys are more lenient than others, but I wouldn't put the case down yet. I think it's certainly doable. That's just me

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Anyways, you are right that certain Embassys are more lenient than others, but I wouldn't put the case down yet. I think it's certainly doable. That's just me

Samu/JoJo,

Nobody's putting their case down. Read what has been posted her specifically about the Manila Embassy. The Affidavit of Support is on area where the Consulate has a lot of leeway. If they "have a funny feeling" about a case but can't deny it based on hard facts then they can look for weakness in the AOS. In this case the Beneficiaries family providing Co-Sponsorship does 2 very bad things for the OP:

1. Provides the CO an easy way to issue 221(g) for insufficient AOS.

2. Fits a pattern of past Immigration Fraud attempts involving US Based family paying for relatives to get Greencards.

So with one simple act the OP is creating doubt about the relationship AND giving the CO an easy way to prevent Visa issuance.

I have known several people from different SE Asian countries who have paid great deals of money ($30,000 - $60,000 each) just to get into the US Illegally and most of them would have happily paid more to do it in a manner that handed them a Greencard instead.

Please don't encourage someone else to enter into a potentially life changing situation without exercising all due caution.

Think like the CO in Manila will: Why wouldn't the Petitioner's family provide the support of Co-Sponsoring him? Maybe they don't even know he's planning to get married because he's doing it in return for payment from her family? Remember it's not up to the CO the prove their suspicions, it's up to the couple to overcome those suspicions. Coming for a VWP country you're process is a lot different.