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Double your salary in the middle of nowhere, North Dakota

By Blake Ellis September 28, 2011: 6:14 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Believe it or not, a place exists where companies are hiring like crazy, and you can make $15 an hour serving tacos, $25 an hour waiting tables and $80,000 a year driving trucks.

You just have to move to North Dakota. Specifically, to one of the tiny towns surrounding the oil-rich Bakken formation, estimated to hold anywhere between 4 billion and 24 billion barrels of oil.

Print CommentOil companies have only recently discovered ways to tap this reserve. And along with the manpower needed to extract the oil, the town is now scrambling to find workers to support the new rush of labor.

Watford City is at the center of the Bakken formation. While it is home to less than 3,000 permanent residents, there are about 6,500 people there right now, as job hunters relocate to seek out high-paying jobs.

Aaron Pelton, the owner of Outlaws Bar & Grill in Watford, said his sales have been nearly doubling every year -- and it's only getting busier. Servers at his restaurant make about $25 an hour when tips are factored in, and kitchen staff employees make around $15 an hour.

Surprise six-figure salaries

Vickie McMullen and her husband were living in one of the poorest cities in North Carolina, and they knew they needed to move to dig themselves out of debt. When they looked online earlier this year and saw the number of high-paying job opportunities in Williston, North Dakota -- less than 50 miles from Watford -- they knew it was the place to jumpstart their lives.

McMullen now works as a nanny in exchange for housing. Her husband, who worked on behavior management programs for a school system in North Carolina where he took home about $1,600 a month, found a job working in the oilfields where he makes that same amount of money in one week -- adding up to an annual salary of about $77,000.

"We want to be debt-free, so we came here to play catch-up," said McMullen. "But when I came here, I thought I was on Mars. It's just so crazy that the rest of the country has no jobs, and here's this one place that doesn't have enough people to fill all the jobs."

Where jobs are booming

With oil companies paying top dollar to the new onslaught of workers they need -- doling out average salaries of $70,000, and more than $100,000 including over-time -- other local businesses are boosting their pay to compete.

Entry level jobs everywhere from restaurants and grocery stores to convenience stores and local banks pay a minimum of $12 per hour, according to the McKenzie County Job Development Authority. Truck drivers make an average of $70,000 to $80,000 a year.

Taco John's, a Western fast-food chain, has increased its pay from $8.50 an hour to $15 an hour in Williston to hold on to its workers during its busiest shifts. It's also trying to keep pace with competitors, including the Subway and Hardee's down the street, said general manager Christie Smith. The Taco John's currently has more than 15 open positions and Smith said she has only turned down one applicant this year, "because he just looked too scruffy."

If a Taco John's employee refers a friend for a job, and that friend is hired and works there at least six weeks, the employee is given a $100 bonus, and the new employee gets $150.

Heather McLaren and her boyfriend came to Watford from Fargo about a year ago. She makes $10 an hour at a local gas station and convenience store, and her boyfriend works in farming and makes $15 an hour -- up from $9.75 an hour in Fargo.

The pay bump was even bigger for Nathan Pittman, who was thinking about retiring from the trucking company he owned in Indiana, but put his plans on hold when he heard about the boom.

Pittman quickly landed at a trucking company in Watford making $20 an hour with "a lot" of overtime. In all, his salary more than doubled to about $2,225 a week in Watford.

"You can make at least a thousand dollars a week more here than anywhere else in the country," he said.

Confessions of extreme penny pinchers

Pittman was so optimistic about the opportunities in the town that he is now helping struggling companies from other parts of the country set up shop in Watford.

"There's not a business you can start in North Dakota right now that wouldn't make it," said Pittman.

Gene Veeder, executive director of McKenzie County Job Development Authority, which includes Watford City, said he gets calls every day from developers wanting to start housing projects. But for now, good luck finding a place to live.

Among the inconveniences the boom has caused for locals -- including a higher cost of living, more traffic and higher turnover rates among businesses that lose employees to the oilfields -- there's a huge housing shortage.

"It's been absolutely crazy lately -- we just can't build fast enough," said Shawn Wenko, workplace development coordinator for the city of Williston. "We've probably seen 2,200 housing units come online this year, but we probably have demand for more than 5,000."

Why you can't find a job

Wenko said one-bedroom apartments can run at around $1,500 a month, while two to three bedroom apartments are often around $3,000. Local hotels and motels are at 100% occupancy. Some companies have cashed in on the low housing supply and have built more affordable workforce units, known as "man camps", which are basically clusters of dorm-style trailers that house workers.

If you're looking for some extra cash, you could really make a killing right now by bringing an RV to the Bakken area and renting it for $2,000 a month, Pittman said.

"If you were to come up right now, you would see campers stuffed in about every corner, people sleeping in their cars in the Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) parking lot and tents popping up here and there," said Wenko. "It's best to secure housing before you come here, or else you'll be staying in your car for a while too -- and North Dakota winters tend to get pretty cold."

You'll also need to be ready to get dirty. Pelton said he sees a line every morning at the public restroom full of people waiting to sponge-bathe themselves in the bathroom sinks. Pelton even had to put a lock on the bathroom in his own restaurant because so many people were sneaking in to "wash up".

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/north_dakota_jobs/index.htm?iid=EAL&source=yahoo_hosted

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Double your salary in the middle of nowhere, North Dakota

By Blake Ellis September 28, 2011: 6:14 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Believe it or not, a place exists where companies are hiring like crazy, and you can make $15 an hour serving tacos, $25 an hour waiting tables and $80,000 a year driving trucks.

You just have to move to North Dakota. Specifically, to one of the tiny towns surrounding the oil-rich Bakken formation, estimated to hold anywhere between 4 billion and 24 billion barrels of oil.

Print CommentOil companies have only recently discovered ways to tap this reserve. And along with the manpower needed to extract the oil, the town is now scrambling to find workers to support the new rush of labor.

Watford City is at the center of the Bakken formation. While it is home to less than 3,000 permanent residents, there are about 6,500 people there right now, as job hunters relocate to seek out high-paying jobs.

Aaron Pelton, the owner of Outlaws Bar & Grill in Watford, said his sales have been nearly doubling every year -- and it's only getting busier. Servers at his restaurant make about $25 an hour when tips are factored in, and kitchen staff employees make around $15 an hour.

Surprise six-figure salaries

Vickie McMullen and her husband were living in one of the poorest cities in North Carolina, and they knew they needed to move to dig themselves out of debt. When they looked online earlier this year and saw the number of high-paying job opportunities in Williston, North Dakota -- less than 50 miles from Watford -- they knew it was the place to jumpstart their lives.

McMullen now works as a nanny in exchange for housing. Her husband, who worked on behavior management programs for a school system in North Carolina where he took home about $1,600 a month, found a job working in the oilfields where he makes that same amount of money in one week -- adding up to an annual salary of about $77,000.

"We want to be debt-free, so we came here to play catch-up," said McMullen. "But when I came here, I thought I was on Mars. It's just so crazy that the rest of the country has no jobs, and here's this one place that doesn't have enough people to fill all the jobs."

Where jobs are booming

With oil companies paying top dollar to the new onslaught of workers they need -- doling out average salaries of $70,000, and more than $100,000 including over-time -- other local businesses are boosting their pay to compete.

Entry level jobs everywhere from restaurants and grocery stores to convenience stores and local banks pay a minimum of $12 per hour, according to the McKenzie County Job Development Authority. Truck drivers make an average of $70,000 to $80,000 a year.

Taco John's, a Western fast-food chain, has increased its pay from $8.50 an hour to $15 an hour in Williston to hold on to its workers during its busiest shifts. It's also trying to keep pace with competitors, including the Subway and Hardee's down the street, said general manager Christie Smith. The Taco John's currently has more than 15 open positions and Smith said she has only turned down one applicant this year, "because he just looked too scruffy."

If a Taco John's employee refers a friend for a job, and that friend is hired and works there at least six weeks, the employee is given a $100 bonus, and the new employee gets $150.

Heather McLaren and her boyfriend came to Watford from Fargo about a year ago. She makes $10 an hour at a local gas station and convenience store, and her boyfriend works in farming and makes $15 an hour -- up from $9.75 an hour in Fargo.

The pay bump was even bigger for Nathan Pittman, who was thinking about retiring from the trucking company he owned in Indiana, but put his plans on hold when he heard about the boom.

Pittman quickly landed at a trucking company in Watford making $20 an hour with "a lot" of overtime. In all, his salary more than doubled to about $2,225 a week in Watford.

"You can make at least a thousand dollars a week more here than anywhere else in the country," he said.

Confessions of extreme penny pinchers

Pittman was so optimistic about the opportunities in the town that he is now helping struggling companies from other parts of the country set up shop in Watford.

"There's not a business you can start in North Dakota right now that wouldn't make it," said Pittman.

Gene Veeder, executive director of McKenzie County Job Development Authority, which includes Watford City, said he gets calls every day from developers wanting to start housing projects. But for now, good luck finding a place to live.

Among the inconveniences the boom has caused for locals -- including a higher cost of living, more traffic and higher turnover rates among businesses that lose employees to the oilfields -- there's a huge housing shortage.

"It's been absolutely crazy lately -- we just can't build fast enough," said Shawn Wenko, workplace development coordinator for the city of Williston. "We've probably seen 2,200 housing units come online this year, but we probably have demand for more than 5,000."

Why you can't find a job

Wenko said one-bedroom apartments can run at around $1,500 a month, while two to three bedroom apartments are often around $3,000. Local hotels and motels are at 100% occupancy. Some companies have cashed in on the low housing supply and have built more affordable workforce units, known as "man camps", which are basically clusters of dorm-style trailers that house workers.

If you're looking for some extra cash, you could really make a killing right now by bringing an RV to the Bakken area and renting it for $2,000 a month, Pittman said.

"If you were to come up right now, you would see campers stuffed in about every corner, people sleeping in their cars in the Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) parking lot and tents popping up here and there," said Wenko. "It's best to secure housing before you come here, or else you'll be staying in your car for a while too -- and North Dakota winters tend to get pretty cold."

You'll also need to be ready to get dirty. Pelton said he sees a line every morning at the public restroom full of people waiting to sponge-bathe themselves in the bathroom sinks. Pelton even had to put a lock on the bathroom in his own restaurant because so many people were sneaking in to "wash up".

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/north_dakota_jobs/index.htm?iid=EAL&source=yahoo_hosted

The Gene Veeder in that article is my dad's 2nd cousin / grandmothers great nephew.

btw good article.

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Also big oil plats happening right now along two more formations in Texas and they are expecting the plays to move northward all the way to Canada. They can't find enough workers right now and I have even been approached to take a job driving in the west part of the play in the valley near the border. Tempting as the pay is really good. I asked why they are having suck a hard time finding workers and was told that very few pass the pre employment drug test. I said I was surprised that drivers are failing that and she told me that all job seekers from Laborers on up were failing the test.

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North Dakota is a nice place to come from...

I cant imagine the desperation that would lead a person to expend their one and only life working in oil shale in north Dakota

I would rather wear a red nose and get a unicycle and be a street entertainer in Montmarte, Paris (the Paris)

More chance of getting a bonk doing that too

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Also big oil plats happening right now along two more formations in Texas and they are expecting the plays to move northward all the way to Canada. They can't find enough workers right now and I have even been approached to take a job driving in the west part of the play in the valley near the border. Tempting as the pay is really good. I asked why they are having suck a hard time finding workers and was told that very few pass the pre employment drug test. I said I was surprised that drivers are failing that and she told me that all job seekers from Laborers on up were failing the test.

My cousin who drives for the Teamsters said they had a hard time filling their crew for the fact peeps were failing the drug test. Iv'e also been on jobs were they decided to UA the entire crew right on the spot and we lost close to half our crew. It's pretty sad when guys pass up a couple grand a week just to get high. Idiotic is more like it.

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North Dakota is a nice place to come from...

I cant imagine the desperation that would lead a person to expend their one and only life working in oil shale in north Dakota

I would rather wear a red nose and get a unicycle and be a street entertainer in Montmarte, Paris (the Paris)

More chance of getting a bonk doing that too

Those guys don't live their permanently, they usually work those jobs for a year or two...sometimes even less to money up. Those guys work a minimum of 7-12's and if there isn't a work camp to stay at, they share hotel rooms/apts with other workers or stay in travel trailers or campers even.

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Those guys don't live their permanently, they usually work those jobs for a year or two...sometimes even less to money up. Those guys work a minimum of 7-12's and if there isn't a work camp to stay at, they share hotel rooms/apts with other workers or stay in travel trailers or campers even.

Rather than work in the shale oil fields would you be down to wallstreet protesting about the lack of jobs? Maybe pray to the god obama for another 99 weeks of unemployment.Listen to your grand parents tell about the dirty 30's....Most would kick their grand kids butts because they would refuse to get their hands dirty.

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Rather than work in the shale oil fields would you be down to wallstreet protesting about the lack of jobs? Maybe pray to the god obama for another 99 weeks of unemployment.Listen to your grand parents tell about the dirty 30's....Most would kick their grand kids butts because they would refuse to get their hands dirty.

You can see by the pics of those Wall Street protesters that they wouldn't last a day in the oil patch. In fact I would bet a lot of them wouldn't even consider that type of work for the fact they would actually have to work, get dirty, and put up with the elements...even when it gets -40 below with the wind chill...which isn't uncommon for North Dakota.

I see those college kids come up to the slope for the summer on the work programs...BP employees kids, and they whine and cry and are about as useful as tits on a nun. Times have changed and these PC college weenies these days usually cant cut it when it comes to actual physical labor.

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Those guys don't live their permanently, they usually work those jobs for a year or two...sometimes even less to money up. Those guys work a minimum of 7-12's and if there isn't a work camp to stay at, they share hotel rooms/apts with other workers or stay in travel trailers or campers even.

No wonder the only applicants fail the drugs test - they must have had an arm full on the night they wrote the application

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No wonder the only applicants fail the drugs test - they must have had an arm full on the night they wrote the application

For some peeps here in the US, $2,000 - $3,000 a week take home pay after taxes is good money.

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The only people who think that hard manual labor is honorable, are the fat cats in London and New York who own these enterprises. After a short time trying it, unloading coal trucks with a shovel and putting handles on aluminum pans, I got out and got a cushy corner office with 34 attractive female staff around me and a slinky secretary bringing me coffee and chocolate biscuits every hour.

That's the way to do it

The oil workers in The UK North Sea worked like sled dogs and back home, their wives were running around town with a different guy every Saturday night - I was single 18 years between and know ! The oil workers were sending their big pay packets home to pay the mortgage, and then when they got divorced, the wives scooped the pool and the house

That the way it works in reality

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