Inconsistent numbers!

[AKSinghSingh79 143]

Not sure what to do about this but was wondering if someone had a similar situation.

My fiance is from India and I'm sure many others have this issue as well but India does not use any type of phone plans like we do here in the U.S.

They have sim cards which have to be recharged and can be changed into any phone.

Anyways, my fiance has had at least a dozen different numbers since we have been together. Sometimes he had a faulty sim card and had to get a new one (new number) he has also broken a few phone or lost them (again new sim card, new number). In the past 5 months, he has had 3 different numbers (4 if you count the times I was calling his mom's cell number)

Thus on our phone records they come up an array of different numbers. The only good thing is the records show us communicating on a single number for a period of time until the event (lost his phone, had to get a new sim card) then the different number shows for some time, etc...

You can clearly tell that I'm calling India each time, because the country code shows up before the number and my number never changes.

We obviously have other proof of communication besides phone records (greeting cards, skype chat logs, facebook messages) but because of his location in India he does not have easy accessibility to internet, skype, email, chat, etc....

Thus our primary form of communication is the phone.

So I guess my question is what is the best way to deal with this? Should I attach a note or signed letter stating the reason why his number keeps changing?

[jkelly07 120]

hi, most foreign countrys use sim cards in the cell phones, the cell phones are unlocked.in the us most phone companys have contracts or pay cell phones you buy a card.you can save the used calling cards, or you can contact your phone co ask if thay keep records of your calls,

[cheme 0]

hi, most foreign countrys use sim cards in the cell phones, the cell phones are unlocked.in the us most phone companys have contracts or pay cell phones you buy a card.you can save the used calling cards, or you can contact your phone co ask if thay keep records of your calls,

Hi my fiance actually changed his from a sim card system to a billing system, that way it shows on records that he has called me too. Maybe this is something your fiance can consider.

[Him & Me 4]

Hi,

I am in the same boat as you are. In Afghanistan people also use the same method. There isn't any monthly phone bills, you buy a sim card and buy credit to use so most everyone's number changes frequently, I feel you. I am sure you have the records that shows you called him so that will work. I think you need to note that somewhere in your phone records when you send it to immigration services about his issue, I am sure they understand this. Becuase you will not be the only one facing this challenge. It is so much cheaper to call Indian versue to call Afghanistan. I use calling cards in my phone records it shows the access number the 1800 number that I use to get access. Therefore, I dont have the proof of showing the immigration services that I have been calling him also. I have to write a note and explain my situations to them. Good luck!!!

[Dave and Kinnari 31]

It's a tough issue as India exclusively uses the pre-paid system leaving no monthly paper trail. In the US we are post-paid and have a monthly bill/statement at the end of the month. I am lucky that my wife's number has not changed during the entire time. She lives in a larger city from where you describing your fiancee lives so we don't have the connection issues you are having.

I would be thorough and get anything and everything you can from the US side in terms of statements and phone records. I was able to obtain T-mobile phone records when she called my cell phone so it shows her number when she called me. I also use Reliance Global Call to call India via discounted rates and they have an excellent billing statement monthly that perfectly shows what phone it is being dialed from and which number was dialed to and how long we talked. They can easily verify my number with the T-mobile statements I sent them.

In terms of India. You can have your fiancee try to contact his mobile service provider to see if they can provide past phone records. I don't know how it works in India but it's worth a shot. You just be thorough as you can from Stateside as it is much easier to obtain these records than in India.

Edited October 8, 2011 by Dave and Kinnari

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Not sure what to do about this but was wondering if someone had a similar situation.

My fiance is from India and I'm sure many others have this issue as well but India does not use any type of phone plans like we do here in the U.S.

They have sim cards which have to be recharged and can be changed into any phone.

Anyways, my fiance has had at least a dozen different numbers since we have been together. Sometimes he had a faulty sim card and had to get a new one (new number) he has also broken a few phone or lost them (again new sim card, new number). In the past 5 months, he has had 3 different numbers (4 if you count the times I was calling his mom's cell number)

Thus on our phone records they come up an array of different numbers. The only good thing is the records show us communicating on a single number for a period of time until the event (lost his phone, had to get a new sim card) then the different number shows for some time, etc...

You can clearly tell that I'm calling India each time, because the country code shows up before the number and my number never changes.

We obviously have other proof of communication besides phone records (greeting cards, skype chat logs, facebook messages) but because of his location in India he does not have easy accessibility to internet, skype, email, chat, etc....

Thus our primary form of communication is the phone.

So I guess my question is what is the best way to deal with this? Should I attach a note or signed letter stating the reason why his number keeps changing?

My wife had five phone numbers. I personal and 1 business cell phone for Russia and Ukraine and 1 home phone for Ukraine. I called all of them at one time or another. No questions asked. Attach a letter of explanation if you want to.

[GringoD 33]

AKss.... I wouldn't worry about it alot.

The first colombian lady I asked up here had her cell phone stolen 5 or 6 times.

That was the bad.

The good was, my calling card company only allowed you to get the 'last 3 months' record of calls.

I'd say it's a minor factor.

Just ask him/her to tell the truth about why so many numbers.

Maybe you'll change your mind, about the whole decision, when you hear the answer.

Am I playing devil's advocate?

Maybe.

[TeapotGirl 66]

I'm using prepaid phone with a simcard as well. But I call my fiance more than he calls me because my callrate is 10x cheaper than his. He just pays for my "load". I could request call records from my cellphone company too.

If your fiancee still kept that simcard pack, then she could just show it on the interview. I still have mine because I am a pack rat.

Edited October 9, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[Brian121957 43]

playing devil's advocate

A comment back to the group.

Even if only 1 phone number. How do you prove that it is his number. How do you prove that you were not calling some other boy friend. After all there is no signed document with the phone company that he even has a phone.

Do they just assume that any call to his country must have been to him.

My fiancée used my VOIP (INTERNET phone service) to call. If you look in the phone records she never call me. They look like my home US number is calling my US cell number or my US work number.

I would send a YM to her mobile YM (cell phone) and say can we talk and if she could she would get on the computer and call me on VOIP. I never called her. All our call were free in my calling plan that way. There might be hours of call a day but never to or from her country.

It was not even asked for during the interview. Approved Oct 5th