96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID

[Danno 1,228]

I never realized how easy voter fraud was until I did it myself.

There is nothing to it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Come to Chicago with that line...

The Cook County Seal has the county's official motto "Vote Early, Vote Often"...

Cook and the surrounding counties have the highest voter turn-out in the country, almost everyone in the cemeteries vote year after year! Now that's what I call dedication...

Do you have actual statistics that prove there is widespread voter fraud coming from people who will actually go and vote several times at several different polling stations?

In-Person Voter Fraud Myth, Justin Levitt Before Senate Committee

In-Person Voter Fraud:

Myth and Trigger for Disenfranchisement?

March 12, 2008

On behalf of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law, I thank the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration for holding this hearing - and for providing the opportunity to discuss some of the facts and myths about voter fraud, and the effects that some of these myths are having on eligible American citizens.

My name is Justin Levitt, and I am counsel at the Brennan Center. The Brennan Center is a non-partisan public policy and legal advocacy organization that focuses on fundamental issues of democracy and justice. Among other things, we seek to ensure fair and accurate voting procedures and systems and to promote policies that maximize citizen enfranchisement and participation in elections. We have done extensive work on a range of issues relating to election administration, including work to remove unnecessary barriers to voter registration; to make voting machines more secure, reliable, usable, and accessible; and to expand access to the franchise and ensure that elections are conducted with integrity. Our work on these topics has included the publication of studies and reports; assistance to federal and state administrative and legislative bodies with responsibility over elections; and, when necessary, participation in litigation to compel states to comply with their obligations under federal law and the Constitution.

We have paid particular attention in recent years to claims of voter fraud. We have collected allegations of fraud cited by state and federal courts, bipartisan federal commissions, political parties, state and local election officials, authors, journalists, and bloggers. We have analyzed these allegations at length, to distinguish those which are supported from those which have been debunked; furthermore, we have created and published a methodology for investigating future claims, to separate the legitimate from the mistaken or overblown. Most recently, we published a monograph reflecting our analysis, entitled "The Truth About Voter Fraud," which compiles for the first time the recurring methodological flaws behind the allegations of widespread voter fraud that are frequently cited but often unsupported.[1] We have similarly examined claims of voter fraud in amicus briefs filed with courts around the country, including cases currently pending at the appellate level and with the Supreme Court.[2]

We have also reviewed, in detail, the effect of policies and laws that contribute to the disenfranchisement of eligible citizens. We attempt to bring reliable data to bear on the effort to assess the nature and magnitude of the impact of new election rules, particularly those with the potential to burden eligible citizens' efforts to exercise their right to vote. In helping to quantify the impact of these rules, we have sponsored surveys and sophisticated statistical analyses; we have collected affidavits and anecdotes; and we have conducted in-depth review of voter registration forms and voter registration rolls, line by line.

In my testimony today, I will share some of our findings. Our research suggests that the incidence of fraud by those impersonating others at the polls is strikingly rare. Yet we have seen restrictions proposed to address this perceived or invented threat, often supported by stories about election fraud or abnormalities that the restrictions would not actually prevent. Further empirical research shows that the problems caused by some of these restrictions are far more serious than the problems they allegedly resolve. As we stated in The Truth About Voter Fraud, "[t]he voter fraud phantom drives policy that disenfranchises actual legitimate voters, without a corresponding actual benefit."[3]

I. The Myth of In-Person Voter Fraud

I will focus here on a particular type of voter fraud: in-person impersonation fraud, or the attempt to impersonate another voter at the polls. Allegations concerning the incidence of or potential for this sort of fraud have been cited as justification for various restrictions on the exercise of the franchise, including some of the more prominent election law controversies in the country. There has been much assertion concerning the appropriate degree of concern regarding such fraud, but relatively little attention paid to the facts that we know. So it is to this in-person impersonation fraud, and to our extensive research on the topic, that I will direct my testimony today.

As explained in more detail below, we conclude that the incidence of actual in-person impersonation fraud is extraordinarily rare. Though it does occur, there are only a handful of recent accounts, even fewer of which have been substantiated. During this same period, hundreds of millions of ballots have been cast. In the past few years in particular, the priority placed on the issue should have fostered the discovery of any substantial quantity of in-person impersonation fraud; the most notable significance of the incidents that have surfaced, however, is how rare they appear to be.

We arrived at our conclusion primarily through a focus on evidence: extensive research of reports, citations, and claims of fraud, in popular and scholarly publications, and in documents provided to and produced by public and private investigations. We have prioritized more recent claims, and particularly claims purporting to reveal in-person impersonation fraud. Our review and analysis spans thousands of accounts, including every single assertion of fraud in the most comprehensive collection of claims of in-person impersonation fraud to date: the citations presented to the Supreme Court in the Crawford v. Marion County Election Board case.

Most Allegations of Fraud Do Not Involve In-Person Impersonation Fraud

We discovered that in order to assess the incidence of in-person impersonation fraud, it is first necessary to cut through a large amount of noise. Upon surveying the news after many, if not most, elections, it is easy to find allegations of election fraud of one sort or another. The vast majority of these allegations do not involve in-person impersonation fraud.

Many of the apparent allegations of fraud are not allegations of fraud at all. Sometimes "voter fraud" stops at the headline: the story claims to involve fraud, but the substance of the story does not support the boldface nine-word summary.[4] Another set of these reports present, not allegations that fraud has occurred, but speculation that fraud might occur in the future.[5] Still other reports show individuals crying foul, but the facts describe straightforward administrative errors.[6] Such errors are not to be ignored - but they are also not to be confused with fraud.

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[Danno 1,228]

Steve, what do you think those voting buses are all about?

The poll worker has the names of inactive voters, as the bus riders file in they are assigned a name or place in the book to sign.

They vote get back in the bus and go to the next station where another worker is waiting.

Naturally, this only can work in district a high concentrations of one (democrat) party as other poll workers would object.

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steve, what do you think those voting buses are all about?

The poll worker has the names of inactive voters, as the bus riders file in they are assigned a name or place in the book to sign.

They vote get back in the bus and go to the next station where another worker is waiting.

Naturally, this only can work in district a high concentrations of one (democrat) party as other poll workers would object.

Why don't you read the report I just posted. It explains in detail the comprehensive investigation into alleged voter fraud. Of course, if your only source for info on this is coming from news media outlets that thrive on sensationalism, real studies and substantive facts don't matter to you.

Edited October 7, 2011 by DFH

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The deceased voter myth:

One subset of the reports of alleged fraud is particularly toxic because, on first blush, these reports appear to entail the trappings of science, and therefore seem more conclusive than they actually are. Allegations of this sort rely on efforts to match computerized voter rolls either to other computerized voter rolls or to computerized lists of ineligible individuals, such as registries of the deceased; such efforts usually involve an attempt to match names and dates of birth from one list to another. A variant involves the attempt to screen voter rolls against property or zoning records. The results are then usually trumpeted as conclusive evidence of so many dead voters,[12] or double voters,[13] or voters rendered ineligible because of conviction,[14] or voters from vacant lots.[15]

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Come to Chicago with that line...

The Cook County Seal has the county's official motto "Vote Early, Vote Often"...

Ah, .... no.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Ah, .... no.

Surely I thought you'd have a sense of humor...

Are you saying the Illinois politics is a corrupt machine?

What other state would a lawyer from New York move to as an express lane to the White House?

2 Governors in recent years with Federal Convictions?

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Surely I thought you'd have a sense of humor...

Are you saying the Illinois politics is a corrupt machine?

What other state would a lawyer from New York move to as an express lane to the White House?

2 Governors in recent years with Federal Convictions?

Don't call me Shirley.

Yes, Illinois has corruption. About on par with other states with a history of corruption. Rhode Island and Louisiana come to mind.

Which NY lawyer are we talking about? My mind is drawing a blank. Unless you mean Obama who has a poli.sci. degree from Columbia University, but whose law degree is from Harvard? He's not a NY lawyer.