Man jailed for beheading girlfriend's kitten

[Jenn! 918]

and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

I wouldn't. But that also doesn't mean that he should be in jail. There are many types of people who I would prefer not live near me, but that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Do you not admit that you're just a tad biased in this discussion because of the fact that you have an emotional attachment to a cat?

Edited September 21, 2006 by jenn3539

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

I wouldn't. But that also doesn't mean that he should be in jail. There are many types of people who I would prefer not live near me, but that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Do you not admit that you're just a tad biased in this discussion because of the fact that you have an emotional attachment to a cat?

i'd feel the same way even if i didn't. on the other hand, could it be you're not concerned because you don't have a cat?

[PsychoKat 0]

Hmmm, I don't think I'm the one being all flowers and rainbows here. Why did you have to go and bring it down a level?

not bringing it down any level, so quit whining. i really think you just don't get it. this nutcase killed a woman's cat in order to terrorize her, to get back at her, and yes he's going to jail - to serve the sentence concurrently with the parole violation. that's nothing when concurrent with another sentence.......he's getting away with murder.

now what does that say to people? that you can terrorize your SO by killing his/her cat in an atrocious manner and basically get away with it! that pets (domesticated animals) have no protection under the law!

this yoyo has serious anger issues and i'd not be pleased if he or someone like him lived near me. and yes i have a cat, in case you were wondering.

and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

Actually, in the state of Illinois what he did to the kitten is illegal also, this is not some precident that was created just for this case.

? 510 ILCS 70/3.02. Aggravated cruelty

Sec. 3.02. Aggravated cruelty. No person may intentionally commit an act that causes a companion animal to suffer serious injury or death. Aggravated cruelty does not include euthanasia of a companion animal through recognized methods approved by the Department of Agriculture.

A person convicted of violating Section 3.02 is guilty of a Class 4 felony. A second or subsequent violation is a Class 3 felony. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, upon conviction for violating this Section, the court may order the convicted person to undergo a psychological or psychiatric evaluation and to undergo any treatment at the convicted person's expense that the court determines to be appropriate after due consideration of the evaluation. If the convicted person is a juvenile or a companion animal hoarder, the court must order the convicted person to undergo a psychological or psychiatric evaluation and to undergo treatment that the court determines to be appropriate after due consideration of the evaluation.

? 510 ILCS 70/3.03. Animal torture

Sec. 3.03. Animal torture. (a) A person commits animal torture when that person without legal justification knowingly or intentionally tortures an animal. For purposes of this Section, and subject to subsection (B), "torture" means infliction of or subjection to extreme physical pain, motivated by an intent to increase or prolong the pain, suffering, or agony of the animal.

(B) For the purposes of this Section, "animal torture" does not include any death, harm, or injury caused to any animal by any of the following activities:

(1) any hunting, fishing, trapping, or other activity allowed under the Wildlife Code [520 ILCS 5/1.1 et seq.], the Wildlife Habitat Management Areas Act [520 ILCS 20/0.01 et seq.], or the Fish and Aquatic Life Code [515 ILCS 5/1-1 et seq.];

(2) any alteration or destruction of any animal done by any person or unit of government pursuant to statute, ordinance, court order, or the direction of a licensed veterinarian;

(3) any alteration or destruction of any animal by any person for any legitimate purpose, including, but not limited to: castration, culling, declawing, defanging, ear cropping, euthanasia, gelding, grooming, neutering, polling, shearing, shoeing, slaughtering, spaying, tail docking, and vivisection; and

(4) any other activity that may be lawfully done to an animal.

© A person convicted of violating this Section is guilty of a Class 3 felony. As a condition of the sentence imposed under this Section, the court shall order the offender to undergo a psychological or psychiatric evaluation and to undergo treatment that the court determines to be appropriate after due consideration of the evaluation.

Usual Prison or Jail sentance for a Class 3 Felony is 2 - 5 years and a Class 4 Felony is 1 - 3 years.

Fact is under existing laws he committed a felony while also in violation of his parole. He deserves whatever he gets.

[Jenn! 918]

and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

I wouldn't. But that also doesn't mean that he should be in jail. There are many types of people who I would prefer not live near me, but that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Do you not admit that you're just a tad biased in this discussion because of the fact that you have an emotional attachment to a cat?

i'd feel the same way even if i didn't. on the other hand, could it be you're not concerned because you don't have a cat?

I have had cats. I just put them on a totally different level than people.

Let's agree to disagree. Not to worry, I have no plans to abuse any animals, nor do I have any power to change any existing laws regarding sentencing for animal abusers.

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and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

I wouldn't. But that also doesn't mean that he should be in jail. There are many types of people who I would prefer not live near me, but that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Do you not admit that you're just a tad biased in this discussion because of the fact that you have an emotional attachment to a cat?

i'd feel the same way even if i didn't. on the other hand, could it be you're not concerned because you don't have a cat?

I have had cats. I just put them on a totally different level than people.

Let's agree to disagree. Not to worry, I have no plans to abuse any animals, nor do I have any power to change any existing laws regarding sentencing for animal abusers.

jenn,

I agree with you.

[Jenn! 918]

and food for thought......someday you'll have kids. would you like this nutcase or someone like him living near you?

I wouldn't. But that also doesn't mean that he should be in jail. There are many types of people who I would prefer not live near me, but that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Do you not admit that you're just a tad biased in this discussion because of the fact that you have an emotional attachment to a cat?

i'd feel the same way even if i didn't. on the other hand, could it be you're not concerned because you don't have a cat?

I have had cats. I just put them on a totally different level than people.

Let's agree to disagree. Not to worry, I have no plans to abuse any animals, nor do I have any power to change any existing laws regarding sentencing for animal abusers.

jenn,

I agree with you.

I knew you would.

[cmartyn 0]

The guy got nothing basically.. so how can it be too much? It is either enough or not enough. It cant be too much.

I never met a cat I didn't like... People, now thats another story.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

That story is unfortunate. Obviously the guy wasn't trying to hurt the animal. I don't think we can say the same for the guy ripping off the kitten's head.

Do you think sentences should vary by the type of animal? What if he killed her pet goldfish?

If that were the case, I'd be serving at least 3 life sentences.

[kirk and Jenny 0]

Though I am not a cat person, I would much prefer to run over a human, in my vehicle, than a dog. No dog has ever lied to me, no dog has ever stolen from me, no dog has ever destroyed my property. No dog has killed my neighbor, no dog ever tried to fornicate with my ex-wife (okay, except on her leg) and as Will Rodgers said. "When dogs die, if they don't go to heaven; I don't want to go to heaven; I want to go where the dogs go"

Edited September 22, 2006 by kirk and Jenny

[Welshcookie 17]

Though I am not a cat person, I would much prefer to run over a human, in my vehicle, than a dog. No dog has ever lied to me, no dog has ever stolen from me, no dog has ever destroyed my property. No dog has killed my neighbor, no dog ever tried to fornicate with my ex-wife (okay, except on her leg) and as Will Rodgers said. "When dogs die, if they don't go to heaven; I don't want to go to heaven; I want to go where the dogs go"

oh errrrr.......

[CarolineM 0]

I kinds see what you're getting at...maybe phrased a bit harsh...but like when I watch cops and see ppl getting abused, killed, whatever...It's like..well whatever.

When I wathc ANIMAL cops...when helpless, sweet animals are being abused, killed, whatever...I bawl my eyes out.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

The guy got nothing basically.. so how can it be too much? It is either enough or not enough. It cant be too much.

I never met a cat I didn't like... People, now thats another story.

I like dogs better than cats but I've never ripped the head off a cat or kitten (or never will).

[almaty 19]

The guy got nothing basically.. so how can it be too much? It is either enough or not enough. It cant be too much.

I never met a cat I didn't like... People, now thats another story.

i agree 100% with you on that

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

The guy got nothing basically.. so how can it be too much? It is either enough or not enough. It cant be too much.

I never met a cat I didn't like... People, now thats another story.

i agree 100% with you on that

while we have your attention, almaty, what is the relationship between animal abusers and serial killers?

[I'm Gone 60]

I never met a cat I didn't like...

I have. Never have torn the head off one, but might if I catch the one that keeps taking a sh*t in our flower bed.