i-134- Temporary vs Permanent job-

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Hi there folks! So I've been sitting quietly in my corner waiting for my NOA2 and Wooo hooo.. it's arrived. So now I'm looking at the next piece of the puzzle. I'd like to get a pulse on others, the instructions clearly outline to depict whether its a full time or temporary position. Let's be real -the economy the way it is .. corporate is gearing much more towards hiring "consultants" i.e. temporary employees, I've been doing this since March and was recently extended to February 2012.

Any others hit upon this? Did you find it interfere with your application, if so what else did you do to ensure no whammies!

Thoughts and comments much appreciated.

All the best!

[TnJ 131]

No reply for nearly 3 months? I am surprised. I would really like to see some response as well. I have been searching the forum but not having any luck. My questions are similar so maybe I can bump this up. I have two part time jobs. Together, they make up full time hours, and I make well over the 125% guidelines. I am a little concerned about the employment letters though. The work is through home health staffing agencies. It might be considered "temporary" work on paper, and they are part-time. However, I have mostly worked 36 hours a week with some 48 hours weeks thrown into the mix for over 3 years. The work is quite stable, and I won't be leaving any time soon. Will 3 years tax transcripts, W2s, bank statements suffice? Again, I have been making more than is required for at least 3 years. Will my jobs being labeled as "part-time" or "temporary" hurt my chances of approval when my income is stable and exceeds requirements? Thanks to anyone who can help us on these matters!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hi there folks! So I've been sitting quietly in my corner waiting for my NOA2 and Wooo hooo.. it's arrived. So now I'm looking at the next piece of the puzzle. I'd like to get a pulse on others, the instructions clearly outline to depict whether its a full time or temporary position. Let's be real -the economy the way it is .. corporate is gearing much more towards hiring "consultants" i.e. temporary employees, I've been doing this since March and was recently extended to February 2012.

Any others hit upon this? Did you find it interfere with your application, if so what else did you do to ensure no whammies!

Thoughts and comments much appreciated.

All the best!

Your job does not need to be "full time" lets get that clear right away, and "full time" is not the same as permanent.

If you are a consulatnt or contractor you are SELF employed, not an employee, then so state.

There is no need for an employment letter, you can use check stubs to support your income claim.

The I-134 is a "present tense" document, read it, "I am employed as ____________________ and earn ___________________ per year" What problem are you having with this?

Where does it ask if you are "permanent"? Full time? Where does it ask how long you have been employed? Where does it ask how long you WILL be employed?

Read carefully, interpret literally and do not imagine things which do not exist.

Often employers will not give employment letters and employment letters are not required. Fill out the form and support it with check stubs, your income tax return and bank statements. If you make enough you will be fine. If you don't, you need a co-sponsor.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

No reply for nearly 3 months? I am surprised. I would really like to see some response as well. I have been searching the forum but not having any luck. My questions are similar so maybe I can bump this up. I have two part time jobs. Together, they make up full time hours, and I make well over the 125% guidelines. I am a little concerned about the employment letters though. The work is through home health staffing agencies. It might be considered "temporary" work on paper, and they are part-time. However, I have mostly worked 36 hours a week with some 48 hours weeks thrown into the mix for over 3 years. The work is quite stable, and I won't be leaving any time soon. Will 3 years tax transcripts, W2s, bank statements suffice? Again, I have been making more than is required for at least 3 years. Will my jobs being labeled as "part-time" or "temporary" hurt my chances of approval when my income is stable and exceeds requirements? Thanks to anyone who can help us on these matters!

You are fine. If employment letters don't benefit you then don't use them. They are not required.

I work 20-24 hours per week and have been since late 2007, so what? I make well over the guidelines and enough to support the family working part time which means I get to go skiing, fishing, shooting, skating, walking with Alla more. Why work more? I work less when possible.

They do not ask how may hours you work.

Edited January 9, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[TnJ 131]

You are fine. If employment letters don't benefit you then don't use them. They are not required.

I work 20-24 hours per week and have been since late 2007, so what? I make well over the guidelines and enough to support the family working part time which means I get to go skiing, fishing, shooting, skating, walking with Alla more. Why work more? I work less when possible.

They do not ask how may hours you work.

Thanks for the quick reply Gary. You say the employment letter is not required, but the I-134 instructions say "Evidence should consist of copies of any of the documents listed below that applies to your situation". The letter is included in reference to that statement. I understand that it might not be required when my bank statements, W2s, tax transcripts, and pay stubs can show sufficient evidence of my income. However, the packet 3, I believe, that is sent out to beneficiaries in Manila states that letter of employment may be used. Although it doesn't say required, I read on another post that someone from the Philippines had their visa approval put on hold until employment status (temp. or permanent) could be verified with the CO. That is what concerns me. Apparently, they had proof of income, but that particular CO wanted to know more about the position before approval was given. I just don't want to hold up the process, and obviously, I don't want to be denied for BS reasons.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Thanks for the quick reply Gary. You say the employment letter is not required, but the I-134 instructions say "Evidence should consist of copies of any of the documents listed below that applies to your situation". The letter is included in reference to that statement. I understand that it might not be required when my bank statements, W2s, tax transcripts, and pay stubs can show sufficient evidence of my income. However, the packet 3, I believe, that is sent out to beneficiaries in Manila states that letter of employment may be used. Although it doesn't say required, I read on another post that someone from the Philippines had their visa approval put on hold until employment status (temp. or permanent) could be verified with the CO. That is what concerns me. Apparently, they had proof of income, but that particular CO wanted to know more about the position before approval was given. I just don't want to hold up the process, and obviously, I don't want to be denied for BS reasons.

Read again, carefully. "Any" does not mean "ALL" ANY means you can submit ANY of those, you do not need to submit ALL of those. Employer letters are NOT required.

What if a person is self employed? What if they will not write an employment letter? I think the information you got was in error or confused.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Thanks for the quick reply Gary. You say the employment letter is not required, but the I-134 instructions say "Evidence should consist of copies of any of the documents listed below that applies to your situation". The letter is included in reference to that statement. I understand that it might not be required when my bank statements, W2s, tax transcripts, and pay stubs can show sufficient evidence of my income. However, the packet 3, I believe, that is sent out to beneficiaries in Manila states that letter of employment may be used. Although it doesn't say required, I read on another post that someone from the Philippines had their visa approval put on hold until employment status (temp. or permanent) could be verified with the CO. That is what concerns me. Apparently, they had proof of income, but that particular CO wanted to know more about the position before approval was given. I just don't want to hold up the process, and obviously, I don't want to be denied for BS reasons.

Be very very careful in interpetting others results. It is easy ebough to interpret printed instructions but the fact is you simply do not know the entire details of the person that wrote what you read. What other evidence was presented with their I-134? You do no tknow how solid or shaky it was. The fiancee that wrote the post may not know either.

If the consensus is that Manilla requires an employment letter, among many that have used Manilla and it is a consistent thing, then fine. If it is a one-of post, it is probably a mistake or a case specific issue. You can ask in the PI forum but I have never heard of such a thing. Doesn;t seem practical to require for everyone

The consulate has to make a judgement call on your abilty to support your fiancee, there is no goal line to cross, it is subjective. The more the merrier, of course, but if your other evidence is solid I would not worry about the employment letter. I used an employment letter for the I-134 but not for the I-864 even though I had an employer and could simply have updated the letter. I just did not need it. At any rate my letter did not state if it was a permanent or full time job, just that I worked there, when I began my employment, my position and my annual income, both base income and projected annual with bonuses.