Stocks and euro plunge on Greek default

[slim 1,533]

Capital gains from bear market funds that go up when the market goes down. For example.

If someone has no investments, how would they ever pay capital gains?

[SMOKE 1,426]

Are you sure your money's going to be worth something?

no, i don't care either, i dropped...but, i tried

[slim 1,533]

no, i don't care either, i dropped...but, i tried

Why not spend your own money during your lifetime?

[mawilson 2,133]

If someone has no investments, how would they ever pay capital gains?

If the person in question has money (and it sounds like they do - otherwise you wouldn't have asked

Why waste money like that?

if there was no money to begin with),

and they keep it under the mattress, they will incur capital losses due to inflation.

Why not spend your own money during your lifetime?

Why not indeed. That's why most people have savings and investments.

[slim 1,533]

If the person in question has money (and it sounds like they do - otherwise you wouldn't have asked

The person in question related savings for retirement, etc.

if there was no money to begin with),

and they keep it under the mattress, they will incur capital losses due to inflation.

Why not indeed. That's why most people have savings and investments.

Most people have savings and investments? Really?

[SMOKE 1,426]

Why not spend your own money during your lifetime?

i feel its my responsibility to make her & my families lives more comfortable if i can.

[Captain Oates 911]

Capital gains from bear market funds that go up when the market goes down. For example.

A lot of people make more when the mkt goes down

That's why the mkt goes down

My PUT option for November allows me to sell at last weeks market price on the 3rd Friday in November

I go out and buy stocks on that day in November at the price on that day - and then they sell at Septembers price

an option lets me walk away if the price is the other way round

Its nice

I like

Edited October 4, 2011 by Austin Devon

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i'm not wasting money. i'm saving for my wife & her new bf she's gonna have when i drop.

that's hilarious because it's true!

i feel its my responsibility to make her & my families lives more comfortable if i can.

you mean you don't want to see it all burn to the ground? ####### is wrong with you?

Most people have savings and investments? Really?

fair point. most people don't. but lots (lots!!) do. why do you think companies like adp and fidelity fight so hard with each other over the ability to 'administer' 401ks? theres a lot of money there.

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ps. if you're over 40 and have no tax-deferred savings and/or are not vested in some kind of retirement plan from some organization you work or have worked for.... you are most likely a total loser.

[slim 1,533]

i feel its my responsibility to make her & my families lives more comfortable if i can.

If is the key word there.

fair point. most people don't. but lots (lots!!) do. why do you think companies like adp and fidelity fight so hard with each other over the ability to 'administer' 401ks? theres a lot of money there.

If you took all the govt. regulations out of retirement savings schemes there'd be no money to make.

ps. if you're over 40 and have no tax-deferred savings and/or are not vested in some kind of retirement plan from some organization you work or have worked for.... you are most likely a total loser.

Or you believe paying into a mandatory retirement scheme your whole life should yield you something.

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Or you believe paying into a mandatory retirement scheme your whole life should yield you something.

It will yield you something.

Losers are happy with something. The rest of us want more.

[SMOKE 1,426]

that's hilarious because it's true!

i made her promise she'd pick a fat guy w/ ED...she said she would, coz she hates change.

ps. if you're over 40 and have no tax-deferred savings and/or are not vested in some kind of retirement plan from some organization you work or have worked for.... you are most likely a total loser.

or you're gonna be seriously screwed in a couple decades

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i made her promise she'd pick a fat guy w/ ED...she said she would, coz she hates change.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Israel Benchmark Bond Rises to Six-Month High on Greek Debt Woes

Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Israel's benchmark bond rose to the highest in six months and stocks fell as investors sought the relative safety of government debt after European leaders signaled they may renegotiate terms of Greece's bailout.

The yield on the 5.5 percent Mimshal Shilkit government notes due January 2022 slid six basis points, or 0.06 percentage point, to 4.54 percent at 3:09 p.m. in Tel Aviv. The rate on the 10-year bonds was at the lowest since January, according to generic-yield data compiled by Bloomberg. The TA-25 benchmark stock index slid 3.2 percent to 1,027.60, the lowest intraday level since Sept. 14.

"People are lowering their risk in shares and turning to government shekel bonds," said Effi Cohen, a Tel Aviv-based trader at Leader Capital Markets Ltd. "As long as the crisis in Europe continues, it appears we will see a lowering of interest rates here in Israel and this will cause yields to fall."

http://www.businessw...-debt-woes.html

They should put all their money into the West Bank.

Edited October 4, 2011 by Dan and Judy

[slim 1,533]

It will yield you something.

But it'll be a negative net yield by the time it's all said and done.

Losers are happy with something. The rest of us want more.

Even the losers get more. We keep giving them more and more year after year. I wonder what would happen if we gave them less and less?