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Can she leave USA during AOS and risk triggering the 3 or 10 year bar?

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Yes, she could leave without submitting the AOS application and take the CR-1 spousal visa route instead, which would mean that her spouse would submit the I-130 and apply for the CR-1 visa for her. However, it is clear that she has overstayed (no matter what you think about the D/S-notation on her I-94) - but it's unclear to me for how long. If her SEVIS was terminated in April, then probably she has been out of status since then. This means that she is very close, or over, the 180-day mark which means she is now subject to at least a three-year ban to the US. If she leaves, this ban will trigger, and she would have to submit a waiver for that before the CR-1 can be issued.

The AOS route in the US is much easier, faster and safer (though more expensive as well). Nothing is stopping her from leaving, but the risks that come with that action will be hers to bear. If she takes the CR-1 route, she will be separated from her husband for months (around 9 months on average), plus the additional time for the waiver. I am personally not familiar with the waiver-process or the difficulty of getting it approved, but someone here will probably know more about that.

While I totally understand her need and want to participate in her sister's wedding, in this situation, due to her overstay, it is a big risk to take. You might think that D/S is the escape hatch here - but it's not. She has not followed the requirements of an F1-student, and has therefor violated the requirements of her visa.

Leaving now is a risk, no matter how you put it. Whether it is a risk she is willing to take is up to her and her husband.

Adjustment of Status from F-1 to Legal Permanent Resident

02/11/2011 Married at Manhattan City Hall

03/03/2011 - Day 0 - AOS -package mailed to Chicago Lockbox

03/04/2011 - Day 1 - AOS -package signed for at USCIS

03/09/2011 - Day 6 - E-mail notification received for all petitions

03/10/2011 - Day 7 - Checks cashed

03/11/2011 - Day 8 - NOA 1 received for all 4 forms

03/21/2011 - Day 18 - Biometrics letter received, biometrics scheduled for 04/14/2011

03/31/2011 - Day 28 - Successful walk-in biometrics done

05/12/2011 - Day 70 - EAD Arrived, issued on 05/02

06/14/2011 - Day 103 - E-mail notice: Interview letter mailed, interview scheduled for July 20th

07/20/2011 - Day 139 - Interview at Federal Plaza USCIS location

07/22/2011 - Day 141 - E-mail approval notice received (Card production)

07/27/2011 - Day 146 - 2nd Card Production Email received

07/28/2011 - Day 147 - Post-Decision Activity Email from USCIS

08/04/2011 - Day 154 - Husband returns home from abroad; Welcome Letter and GC have arrived in the mail

("Resident since" date on the GC is 07/20/2011

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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To OP... Very simple answer.

She should NOT leave for the wedding!

If you read everyone's post, NOT ONE single person recommends her to leave. We can analyze every word and sentence to 10,000% and twist it to the way we want to interpret it. Bottom line is that the risk is not worth the benefit.

Good luck!

7/20/09 - When we met
9/16/09 - When we started dating
1/15/10 - Moved in together
9/3/10 - Marriage
11/10/10 - Filed AOS at Chicago lockbox
11/12/10 - AOS package received
11/17/10 - NOA1
12/27/10 - Biometrics --> canceled due to snow condition
1/18/11 - Advance Parole approved
1/26/11 - Biometrics Completed
1/31/11 - EAD in production
2/7/11 - EAD Recieved
2/18/11 - Applied for SSN
2/28/11 - Received SS Card
8/5/11 - Interview letter mailed
9/8/11 - Interview @9am
9/9/11 - Card Production
9/20/11 - Received Green Card

7/2013 - Submitted Removal of Condition

9/2013 - Biometrics Completed

11/20/2013 - NOA1 - Request for Evidence

12/20/2013 - RFE returned

1/2014 - 10 year green card approved.

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Agreed. If she has overstayed long enough to incur a ban if she leaves on AP (and it sounds like she has), then that ban will take effect regardless of how or why she leaves the country. The ban occurs no matter what, so it would still be in effect when filing for a CR-1.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Filed: F-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Personal opinion: For God's sake, it's only a wedding.

Ha ha. I couldn't agree more. These Koreans sure are headstrong people though! (And I mean that in the nicest possible way) :bonk: heh heh

I think in the end, she has agreed to bow to the collective wisdom here and sit tight. Thanks to you, Sachinky, and everyone else for all the useful input. I think she wanted to be sure we were exhausting every possible avenue, before we give up and succumbed to the inevitable.

Wishing us all speedy resolutions of our immigration woes!

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Ha ha. I couldn't agree more. These Koreans sure are headstrong people though! (And I mean that in the nicest possible way) :bonk: heh heh

I think in the end, she has agreed to bow to the collective wisdom here and sit tight. Thanks to you, Sachinky, and everyone else for all the useful input. I think she wanted to be sure we were exhausting every possible avenue, before we give up and succumbed to the inevitable.

Wishing us all speedy resolutions of our immigration woes!

Good decision. I know it can't be easy. I hope her immigration process is quick so she can go back and visit whenever she wants!

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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You're welcome. Wishing your friend well and a speedy end to her immigration journey.

And I understand the sentiments, when I was getting married (which was on rather short notice, any way) my mother was acting like I couldn't get married unless every cousin who lived in different parts of the globe were able to make it.

03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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  • 4 weeks later...

In life, it's all about priorities.Personally i would not risk it.When you decide on making your life somewhere, and such important papers are at stake, i think being at a wedding, even your sister's, is not that important.She'll get married anyways.When you can't, you can't.I hope you don't mind me playing the devil's advocate here.On the other hand, if it is so important for the bride to have her sister attending, she could always change the wedding date.In your shoes, i would not do it.I have been wainting patiently for 5 years to be able to adjust status, i did not move an inch, and won't until i hold the card in my hand.Good luck.

I was reading thru this thread and I saw your message...I have been waiting for 5+ years to AOS too:( not fun!!!! I'm on a F-1 visa. How was your case, did you run into any issues? I have never had any problems...being out of status and such.

Any info would be awesome:)

Thank you

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Filed: F-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Update:

- she took my (and everyone here's) advice and did not leave the USA to return for her sister's wedding. It was a a bit sad on the day itself, but overall she is now glad she did not.

- she received her biometrics appointment for the New York Queens (USCIS Woodside, 6305 Roosevelt Ave) office within about 1 month of them receiving all her completed paperwork. Because I was able to advise her on the possibility of walk-ins, which I had come across here on these wonderful forums, she did indeed go and do the walk in in late December rather than wait until January. (They didn't seem too happy about it, but she made a sad face and bumbled out some reason why she really needed this to happen, as I had briefed her, and she got in)

- she is now waiting the next notification re: hopefully a call to come for the interview.

End of update.

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