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"It's a significant disparity if you compare excitement and enthusiasm that Democrats had for Obama in 2008, where he was near messianic, to now where he actually has a record and he's rather mortal. There will be none of that enthusiasm again, it's almost impossible. It had a lot to do in 2008 with the fact that he was almost entirely unknown and was extremely eloquent and was lightning in a bottle. That is never going to happen again. He's got a record now and it's a bad one. So there is no way that you can ever get near that.

"But I think even worse for Obama than the decline in the intensity of support among Democrats--because after all, where they are going to go--on election day they'll be out there for him--is the number on independents. The number on independents is staggeringly bad. 31% approval of independents.

"Obama won the election of 2008 on the basis of independents, and the first hint of trouble came in the off-year elections at end of 2009 in Virginia and New Jersey, where independents in states that had gone Obama went 2-1 against Obama. Then in the Senate race for the so-called Kennedy seat in January of 2010 the independents went 3 to 1 against Democrats. And I think if Obama cannot rise from the 31% approval he has among independents he is going to suffer a landslide."

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Obamas hope? The Republican candidate field...

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As much as I despise Krauthammer and all the war hawk neocons, I think he's right on this. The enthusiasm for Obama just isn't there anymore. Many people, myself included, are disappointed with him and the direction he has taken. I think ultimately, this all comes down to who the republicans nominate. If it happens to be Perry or Bachmann, a lot of independants will reluctantly vote for Obama. But, if they nominated Huntsman, or drafted Christie or Daniels to run, I think Obama would get slaughtered in a general election.

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I don't think that's necessarily true. Some of them might not vote at all.

I don't think anyone is particularly excited about the next election cycle. It's particularly sickening to think about all the money that will be donated and spent on an election campaign that could go to help people out. I like the UK election system much better, a 6 week affair that costs little compared to U.S. elections.

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It's particularly sickening to think about all the money that will be donated and spent on an election campaign that could go to help people out.

I agree. At the same time, how is the money spent? Staff salaries, flights, direct mail, radio, TV and Internet ads - it's helping *someone* out there.

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I agree. At the same time, how is the money spent? Staff salaries, flights, direct mail, radio, TV and Internet ads - it's helping *someone* out there.

Most of that goes to adverts, so it lines the pockets of those who own Viacom, Disney and General Electric.

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"It's a significant disparity if you compare excitement and enthusiasm that Democrats had for Obama in 2008, where he was near messianic, to now where he actually has a record and he's rather mortal. There will be none of that enthusiasm again, it's almost impossible. It had a lot to do in 2008 with the fact that he was almost entirely unknown and was extremely eloquent and was lightning in a bottle. That is never going to happen again. He's got a record now and it's a bad one. So there is no way that you can ever get near that.

"But I think even worse for Obama than the decline in the intensity of support among Democrats--because after all, where they are going to go--on election day they'll be out there for him--is the number on independents. The number on independents is staggeringly bad. 31% approval of independents.

"Obama won the election of 2008 on the basis of independents, and the first hint of trouble came in the off-year elections at end of 2009 in Virginia and New Jersey, where independents in states that had gone Obama went 2-1 against Obama. Then in the Senate race for the so-called Kennedy seat in January of 2010 the independents went 3 to 1 against Democrats. And I think if Obama cannot rise from the 31% approval he has among independents he is going to suffer a landslide."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/29/krauthammer_warns_obama_will_suffer_landslide_election.html

Actually, current POTUS won due to similar reasons to 1976--independents tired and angry with incumbent POTUS of other party (GOP); in such a case, the incoming POTUS has to perform to meet the expectations--or will get a landslide loss (as happened in 1980 for Carter).

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Actually, current POTUS won due to similar reasons to 1976--independents tired and angry with incumbent POTUS of other party (GOP); in such a case, the incoming POTUS has to perform to meet the expectations--or will get a landslide loss (as happened in 1980 for Carter).

Is that like a hippopotamus with slim hips ?

Fact is that the nice people have nowhere to go but Mr O and they will all flock back no matter how big a disappointment he is

4 years of growing non european voters will give him even more support

With 80% disapproving of attacks on SS/Medicare/Unions, there will be a landslide - FOR MR O and not against him

My car sticker says 'VOTE AGAINST YOMOMA ? ' and that will become more and more to the fore with every passing month

There is nothing so uniting as a common enemy and they don't come much commoner than the grisly righto torturers and granny kickers

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Most of that goes to adverts, so it lines the pockets of those who own Viacom, Disney and General Electric.

These companies have employees who benefit as well - creative directors, designers, photographers, illustrators,

software vendors, printshops, etc.

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I for one am not counting Obamer out... in fact I have long predicted him to be a two termer ....although my projection was based on a reviving economy but still:

don't forget Obama has a very powerful friend to garner him at least a few percentage points, ... the MEDIA.

While the "love affair" has cooled a great deal the fondness for his basic ideology exists.

I still give him a 55% to 45% edge over the Right.

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Some of them might not vote at all.

All of the "traditionally lazy" people who voted for Obama last time will probably be sitting in their free houses watching free cable this go-round. All that energy is gone because they're already back to doing what they do best. Nothing.

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