US Born Yemen mullah Anwar Awlaki now shovelling coal

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Can you please explain what the discussion of whether an American citizen accused of a crime should have the right to due process of law (as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution) has to do with questions about who is “going to heaven” or who isn’t ?

Ancient philosophers observed that mice appeared in sacks of grain, and deduced that the grain spontaneously generates mice without any need for mommy and daddy mice.

????

As I already said, I don’t discuss my religion on this board, and I very rarely post in the religion threads.

See above re: spontaneous generation.

The way our law works (or at least was supposed to work) is: You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Targeted assassinations are a very convenient way of closing a case before it’s ever tried - the accuser need present no evidence, the accused will not have any opportunity to present any defense, and there will be no consideration of any “reasonable doubts.” This is what makes me so uneasy as an American citizen - and it has nothing to do with a suspect’s religion. There are other disturbing issues as well - what about the rights of anyone who happens to be in the vicinity of the target of the assassination ?

I disagree that "cruel actions flow from these religions," so how can I denounce "cruel actions flowing from these religions" ?

However, I vehemently denounce cruel actions !

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Then you haven’t been listening. There are countless examples of Muslims denouncing "cruel actions" (I recommend Google, but suggest using the key word "terror" rather than "cruel actions.")

If you can't give a straight answer, then why take the time to waste this sites bandwidth with post like that?

He asked you a direct question and knowing your pretty much screwed if you answer his question honestly, you post that drivel instead.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

If you can't give a straight answer, then why take the time to waste this sites bandwidth with post like that?

He asked you a direct question and knowing your pretty much screwed if you answer his question honestly, you post that drivel instead.

LOL

Why would I speculate about something so ridiculous ? I might as well ponder on whether that dessicated peanut you call a mind will ever blossom into an intellect.

[sandinista! 1,816]

silly old people can be pretty funny.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

silly old people can be pretty funny.

Why Me was also on the "Jewish DNA" tip not long ago... peas in a pod...

[sandinista! 1,816]

Why Me was also on the "Jewish DNA" tip not long ago... peas in a pod...

that's insulting to legumes.

[Ready to do it 101]

Ok, I was actually admiring some of your response until I read this post. Alan is right, many posters skirt the question. I thought you had some valid argumentative points, but why the namecalling. Yes, you were losing the debate; is that why you needed to resort to namecalling? Sofiya has a history of losing the majority of debates on this forum as she too skirts around the issue... and she too resorts to namecalling. Should we make the assumption that muslims resort to name-calling when they have lost or are losing a debate. Again, some of your response was a worthy read... until the namecalling.

LOL

Why would I speculate about something so ridiculous ? I might as well ponder on whether that dessicated peanut you call a mind will ever blossom into an intellect.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Ok, I was actually admiring some of your response until I read this post. Alan is right, many posters skirt the question. I thought you had some valid argumentative points, but why the namecalling. Yes, you were losing the debate; is that why you needed to resort to namecalling? Sofiya has a history of losing the majority of debates on this forum as she too skirts around the issue... and she too resorts to namecalling. Should we make the assumption that muslims resort to name-calling when they have lost or are losing a debate. Again, some of your response was a worthy read... until the namecalling.

You obviously haven't paid much attention.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

You obviously haven't paid much attention.

You can say that again.

God has a sense of humor, ladies. Sometimes, you just have to go with it

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Deja vu . . .

If you can't give a straight answer, then why take the time to waste this sites bandwidth with post like that?

He asked you a direct question and knowing your pretty much screwed if you answer his question honestly, you post that drivel instead.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

It's very telling if you think what we're doing on this thread represents a debate

Ok, I was actually admiring some of your response until I read this post. Alan is right, many posters skirt the question. I thought you had some valid argumentative points, but why the namecalling. Yes, you were losing the debate; is that why you needed to resort to namecalling? Sofiya has a history of losing the majority of debates on this forum as she too skirts around the issue... and she too resorts to namecalling. Should we make the assumption that muslims resort to name-calling when they have lost or are losing a debate. Again, some of your response was a worthy read... until the namecalling.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

What I am after is some straight talk.

If I were to ask you whether this American killer of Americans is going to go to heaven, what would you say ?

Would you obfuscate and um and aaar - or would you answer yes or no with a reason ?

I am not against Islam in general, but only it's cruel manifestations around the world - just the same as I am against christian cruelties

It is denied on here that these cruelties (eg female circumcision/throat cutting/amputations/stoning) have anything to do with Islam, but they are certainly being done in the name of Islam, with precious little push-back from other Moslems who just say "It's not our religion behind this and not our problem"

I am just as 'anti' the Christians who shoot abortion doctors or put unmarried mothers in cellars or mental asylums

My beef is with cruelty and not with just one religion - but I see religions as the font of all this stuff.

So you are interested in posting on threads which discuss your religion and I am interested in threads which discuss my opposition to religion so far as its cruel manifestations are concerned. This dead idiot is an evil manifestation of a branch of your religion as far as I, and most of the people in the West (there I go again speaking for others), are concerned. I am sure HE would agree with me that the actions for which he was killed, were inspired by his religion

I don't revile him because he is/ was a Moslem, I revile him for killing innocents and planning to kill more.

So I'm not anti you, or anti your religion, or anti christianity - I am only anti the cruel actions which flow from these religions and I think the 'others' in those religions (you) have a duty to speak up and denounce them

I don't hear a lot of that going on - only criticisms of the US gov, which in this instance I totally support.

No problemo! Anwar Amlaki is probably going to the fiery furnace but no one here can make the call. Reasoning is along these lines, Amlaki went around killing people or telling others to, hence he transgressed since he wasn't in battle and he showed no common sense or restraint. His death was HIS judgment, it is really a case of Amlaki's time being up. The US offed him and ???? A person of faith, as some in this forum claim to be, would state :"Nor can a soul die except by God as leave, the term being fixed as by writing. Many do desire a reward in this life, we shall give it to him, and if any do desire a reward In the hereafter, we shall give it to him. And swiftly shall we reward those that (serve us with) gratitude. "(3:145) That's about it. He could have been hit by a bus but this was they way that it was ordained. Brutality and cruelty, HE doesn't like it and that only means one thing, say 'hi' to you new landlord.. :devil:

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Ok, I was actually admiring some of your response until I read this post. Alan is right, many posters skirt the question. I thought you had some valid argumentative points, but why the namecalling. Yes, you were losing the debate; is that why you needed to resort to namecalling? Sofiya has a history of losing the majority of debates on this forum as she too skirts around the issue... and she too resorts to namecalling. Should we make the assumption that muslims resort to name-calling when they have lost or are losing a debate. Again, some of your response was a worthy read... until the namecalling.

Do you even need to ask? :rofl:

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

I am equal to any other American, especially those Americans who give me an argument on whether a killer of American innocents got was was coming to him

QUESTION: If this Malarky geezer had been Yemen born, would you have supported your government in the killing (without trial) of this Moslem who killed Americans in the name of Islam ? Caution, you might find that uncomfortable to answer and I expect you to side-step it.

Posing an uncomfortable question is not baiting by the way

Characterizing a question as baiting when it isn't, is just being evasive as is the troll word. Its a cheating way of trying to win an argument when you don't have the ammo to win it honestly

Please answer the straightforward question above

Malarky? I had no idea that Amlaki was Irish. :rofl: Amlaki was a nut and he got what he deserved, the US was only carrying out of Divine Justice, the US was the effector that HE chose. The US had nothing to do with it, the drone was only an instrument of HIM.

Speaking of uncomfortable questions, you still haven't told me if these jeans make my azz look fat.

whats with the 'we' and 'us' of the last few posts ?

Is there some sort of group or club or gang on here ? oops, there I go again asking a question which 'they' have decided not to answer.

I prefer people to post as individuals

Can I post as a cat?

Have no fear - I am mainly left in my politics and a devout atheist to boot - but I have no fear of the CIA killing me with a DRONE.

Its an inappropriate extension - otherwise known as a non sequeter

If you keep your underpants fragrant and explosives free, you need never fear the US gov

No they meant trail - there is a connection between trail mix and exploding underpants ...

When do we start blowing up Taco Bells?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

LOL

Why would I speculate about something so ridiculous ? I might as well ponder on whether that dessicated peanut you call a mind will ever blossom into an intellect.

I am happy that the Muslim American terrorist/traitor trash has been scattered all over Yemen. I would think Muslims would be also. Guess not.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

While I am happy about the most recently exploded Muslim terrorists, all of you that are upset are welcome NOT to vote for Obama next year. I really do not care WHY you don't like him or WHY you don't vote for him.

This is like "win/win!"