US Born Yemen mullah Anwar Awlaki now shovelling coal

[Captain Oates 911]

If you feel as if you need to do homework or read something, that's your subconscious haunting you, not us

whats with the 'we' and 'us' of the last few posts ?

Is there some sort of group or club or gang on here ? oops, there I go again asking a question which 'they' have decided not to answer.

I prefer people to post as individuals

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I'm willing to help you understand what a debate is. It's not just someone asking pointed and leading questions, all sides need to contribute something substantive to move the discussion forward and earn the right to make demands of the others. That's where you fall short.

Well at least that was an honest answer - but if you don't feel obligated to answer questions in a debate, there cannot be a debate - just a series of statements where nobody learns anything, other than the other party has unacceptable opinions that they wish to hide.

Thanks for confirming that the Moslems on here deliberately decide not to answer - I thought it was me who wasn't making it clear that I was actually asking a question of them

Unlike the right wing Moslem haters, I prefer not to make statements requiring no answer, but to ask pertinent questions so that Moslems might put their side of it. If they are not prepared to do so then that's an end to it - but you cannot then blame non-Moslems from then forming their own conclusions in a vacuum

[Captain Oates 911]

I'm willing to help you understand what a debate is. It's not just someone asking pointed and leading questions, all sides need to contribute something substantive to move the discussion forward and earn the right to make demands of the others. That's where you fall short.

Who appointed you to declare my worth and whether I have earned the right to ask a question ?

I do demand an answer, but if it is withheld then I form my own conclusion - and so does the rest of society

ok well we will just have to post in statements and not ask questions.

Statement. This man was inspired by Islam to kill innocent Americans (or so he said). I am glad the government killed him. I hope they kill all the other deviant Moslems who think and act in the same way

I hope all the Moslems who support his way of thinking and acting have an increasingly hard life wherever they live.

I hope all non-deviant Moslems open up to western society and plainly state what they do believe, and who they don't support, and who they revile. If a Moslem remains silent on these issues, then westerners are entitled to draw conclusions from that silence - and they do

There - that is statement with no questions

[Ban Hammer 13,501]

He was also a citizen of Yemen. Do you not respect the judicial decisions of another country towards its citizens?

so let yemen carry out the sentence.

[Ban Hammer 13,501]

There must be, because I agree with Rob on this one.

politics makes strange bedfellows.

eta: and before someone thinks that the above is a personal attack, that's quoting Charles Dudley Warner (American Editor and Author, 1829-1900)

Edited September 30, 2011 by charles!

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

politics makes strange bedfellows.

eta: and before someone thinks that the above is a personal attack, that's quoting Charles Dudley Warner (American Editor and Author, 1829-1900)

I would have to say Alan has Sofiyya and WoM against the ropes atm.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

No one has impaired your right or ability to ask questions. I'm just telling you why they don't get answered. People also draw conclusions about others by the questions they ask. This is pretty basic stuff, bro. Learn to earn

Who appointed you to declare my worth and whether I have earned the right to ask a question ?

I do demand an answer, but if it is withheld then I form my own conclusion - and so does the rest of society

ok well we will just have to post in statements and not ask questions.

Statement. This man was inspired by Islam to kill innocent Americans (or so he said). I am glad the government killed him. I hope they kill all the other deviant Moslems who think and act in the same way

I hope all the Moslems who support his way of thinking and acting have an increasingly hard life wherever they live.

I hope all non-deviant Moslems open up to western society and plainly state what they do believe, and who they don't support, and who they revile. If a Moslem remains silent on these issues, then westerners are entitled to draw conclusions from that silence - and they do

There - that is statement with no questions

Alan is shadow boxing, I'm not even in the ring and WoM has left the building.

I would have to say Alan has Sofiyya and WoM against the ropes atm.

[Captain Oates 911]

All men are created equal and can be extinguished equally. I dont think the American constitution applies only to Americans and it was speaking about humanity as a whole

If it's ok to kill a foreigner then its ok to kill an American in the same circumstances

Nationality doesn't matter

Americana cops gun American citizens down every week. Cops are government - ask the T party.

Ozzy Bin Liner was a Saudi killed in Pakistan by Americans

Doesn't matter.

If an American soldier in Vietnam had run over to the other side and shouted " I am with them now and I am set on killing you". does anyone seriously suggest that the American troops could not fire on him until he had officially been stripped of his citizenship ?

This is very close to what to what this guy did - except he actually succeeded in killing Americans and was working on killing more !

I am against torture, against secret extraditions, against Guantanamo - but I know a dangerous un-arrestable enemy and what must be done.

I don't want Yemen do decide whether I am safe on the next Seattle-Amsterdam flight and I don't want a legal citizenship process to be going on in absentia while someone is sticking TNT to my tail

The British Government killed plenty of British Citizens in Northern Ireland - because the IRA were out to murder other citizens. There is an example of the government deciding to kill its own citizens at home - and quite right too in those circumstances

If there are circumstances where its right for a govt to kill its own citizens at home (and there are), then it's quite acceptable when the citizen has gone abroad and joined the enemy and led the enemy, and has, and is, planning to kill more home citizens.

Mr O is doing a fine job and should keep killing them so my daughter can visit me here in the US next year, without being blown apart at 36 thousand feet by some weirdo in Yemen

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So what's the next step? Extra-judicial killing of a US citizen without due process on US soil next time? In the 'burbs? Did I miss the part at Obama's inauguration where we made him judge, jury and executioner in addition to president in this fair land of ours?

I am not a religious person but my mother is. She is Lutheran and if someone claiming to be a Lutheran were killing innocent people and got exploded by a missile, she would...

Now I can barely conceal my glee that another Muslim terrorist got exploded. I hope they saw it coming, I hope they were running and I hope they died watching the missile fly right into their car window. That would be cool.

That said, sometime between now and when Obama starts blowing up vandals in the 'burbs, we need to stop Obama from this. If torturing people in Gitmo is wrong, then I gues suprise missile attacks would be in there somewhere

I wonder why Muslims are always outraged at a Muslim terrorist being blown to pieces?

Edited September 30, 2011 by Gary and Alla

[Captain Oates 911]

I am not a religious person but my mother is. She is Lutheran and if someone claiming to be a Lutheran were killing innocent people and got exploded by a missile, she would...

Now I can barely conceal my glee that another Muslim terrorist got exploded. I hope they saw it coming, I hope they were running and I hope they died watching the missile fly right into their car window. That would be cool.

That said, sometime between now and when Obama starts blowing up vandals in the 'burbs, we need to stop Obama from this. If torturing people in Gitmo is wrong, then I gues suprise missile attacks would be in there somewhere

I wonder why Muslims are always outraged at a Muslim terrorist being blown to pieces?

At last someone who thinks like the other 460 mill in Europe and 300 mill in the US

ok you have the ball !

The truth is that to their shame, 'good' Moslems seems incapable of cheering the death of any of their own religion by an infidel, no matter how well deserved. This is a HUGE shame and will rebound to the detriment of 'good' Moslems.

Its quite avoidable and they are encouraging the christian crazies who seriously hate them.

'good' christians do this in a cleverer way and have no problems in criticizing and dropping christian crazies and distancing themselves - and they don't mind being questioned as to their true feelings either

A year ago I was quite sympathetic to Moslems and the awful hatred coming from the Right (despite being cynically defrauded by several of them face to face) - a year on and I see it differently now that I have debated with more of them. I get more suspicious of their true feelings the more I debate with them and the more they blank me.

Edited September 30, 2011 by Alan the Red

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

How is targeting him really any different from targeting Osama Bin Laden?

The official story is they tried to capture him but shot in self defense.

[Captain Oates 911]

The official story is they tried to capture him but shot in self defense.

Blinking is very threatening - best to take no chances... and he could have had an RPG or an armored personnel carrier hidden in his beard

He could have swallowed some explosive before he went to bed and one cough could have exploded it

I come from the curry capital of the world and so I know how that goes...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

The official story is they tried to capture him but shot in self defense.

The latest I heard is that they hit him with a drone controlled from Langley and also killed a second American in the truck with him.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Blinking is very threatening - best to take no chances... and he could have had an RPG or an armored personnel carrier hidden in his beard

He could have swallowed some explosive before he went to bed and one cough could have exploded it

I come from the curry capital of the world and so I know how that goes...

I supposedly live in Curry City, but its not as good as the place we used to go to in Stratford upon Avon.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I supposedly live in Curry City, but its not as good as the place we used to go to in Stratford upon Avon.

I'm guessing it's from an old Celtic/Saxon recipe.