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felt like anais nin for the time being. that kitty, in the years since that picture was taken, has grown even fatter if you can believe it. i doubt his owner would be able to have a steady gun arm trying to hang onto him now, tubby as he's gotten.

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Mumbo jumbo, or mumbo-jumbo, is an English phrase or expression that denotes a confusing or meaningless subject. It is often used as humorous expression of criticism of middle-management and civil service non-speak, and of belief in something considered non-existent by the speaker (such as ghosts or other superstitious beliefs), or the rituals of a religion the speaker does not believe in performed in a language that the speaker does not understand.

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It's from a cop show, a few years back. These american cops go to an enormous amount of trouble and risk setting up an illegal wire in this Armenian gangster's apartment. But when theyre checking their feed, they realize it was all for nought-they can't understand a thing being said because: armenians speak armenian. :-D

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How thoughtful of you to provide the definition in your post rather than anyone needing to google for themselves, not that I needed to anyways. it would be perhaps more helpful to post a detailed explanation of contrived Alan logic, because it comes across as nonsensical to more than a few people here. Just a thought!

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How thoughtful of you to provide the definition in your post rather than anyone needing to google for themselves, not that I needed to anyways. it would be perhaps more helpful to post a detailed explanation of contrived Alan logic, because it comes across as nonsensical to more than a few people here. Just a thought!

If opposing the excusing and justifying and standing up for vicious terrorist killers is 'nonsensical' according to the twisted definition of my Moslem debating opponents, then I fit that definition 100%

Apart from Charles who I think is probably a benign libertarian in the mold of Ron Paul, I think all my gainsayers are Moslem and that is why I detect an undercurrent which is nothing to do with the US law/constitution.

As you don't believe this thread is anything to do with that ugly dead un-buryable terrorist Anwar Awfulaki, despite those words in that blue band at the top of your screen when you are replying , the point is probably lost on you

The British Government have always been more pro-Arab than pro Israeli and I have mildly followed their lead in the past - but the more I read on here, the more I think the Americans have it right. The ducking and diving is more obvious than a Nigerian scam letter so I don't know who they think they are fooling with their silence

I want just one Moslem to post on here and give a summary of what they thought of him and whether, after the due process they feign to desire, they would have applauded a death sentence on him, carried out by a christian executioner in the USA - I think that would be revealing

I wont hold my breath waiting for that

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Someone forgot their aricept this morning. The protest over the killing, man. The protest. It's nothing to do with awlaki himself, but over his curcumstances as a us citizen, accused of very grave crimes, but nevertheless still due due process, regardless of anything else.

Don't worry his Internet messages will still be out in cyberspace to serve as both Al-Whackies ongoing message to the terrorists he helped recruit and organize, but they will also point out the inherent justice in his fate for those of us who don't feel this was some sort of violation of his Constitutional rights.

The desire to get this guy dead or alive was out there long before this event. And the justification will stand the test of time. Do not worry that the justification of this action will translate to those who support wearing of head scarfs while working at Hooters.

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Don't worry his Internet messages will still be out in cyberspace to serve as both Al-Whackies ongoing message to the terrorists he helped recruit and organize, but they will also point out the inherent justice in his fate for those of us who don't feel this was some sort of violation of his Constitutional rights.

The desire to get this guy dead or alive was out there long before this event. And the justification will stand the test of time. Do not worry that the justification of this action will translate to those who support wearing of head scarfs while working at Hooters.

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Go get em Floyd

I thought it was amazing that the P&R forum, which is usually full of gun toting hang em, flog em, right wingers was ignoring this thread and allowing Mulledwhacky sympathizers to run rampant

I am not a right winger but I know what's correct.

The difference between me and my debating opponents, is that I would have given this action the tick of approval whether the terrorist was white English or Eskimo or Buddhist or Japanese Shinto or whatever.

They are only interested in Moslem solidarity.

In fact I think this is the MAIN difference between Islam and all other religions - I see dissident Jews and Israelis and Christians etc arguing against various aspects of their faith - ** priests, married priest etc - we never see dissident Moslems coming on here and saying that ALL Moslem terrorist killers are trash and deserve to die and some aspects of the Qu'aran are outdated and should not be enforced. When that day dawns, we will know the 'forever war' will have an end

Even the Saudi King says the halted flogging of women drivers is simply an update on how Islam is applied rather than a change to Islam - weasel words again - trying to muddy the waters and have it both ways.

The wa'bbits of Bin-Liners sect will have his over fed head for that.

If women were not allowed to drive in the USA, I might eventually forget all those swear words I learned when I was in uniform

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Boarding school? :unsure:

Grammar school boy.

That's me on the far right with the banana skin hanging out of my top pocket

(no it isnt a used condom)

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Charles is not the only non-Muslim "naysayer". If you paid attention and read the posts, you'd know that.

If opposing the excusing and justifying and standing up for vicious terrorist killers is 'nonsensical' according to the twisted definition of my Moslem debating opponents, then I fit that definition 100%

Apart from Charles who I think is probably a benign libertarian in the mold of Ron Paul, I think all my gainsayers are Moslem and that is why I detect an undercurrent which is nothing to do with the US law/constitution.

As you don't believe this thread is anything to do with that ugly dead un-buryable terrorist Anwar Awfulaki, despite those words in that blue band at the top of your screen when you are replying , the point is probably lost on you

The British Government have always been more pro-Arab than pro Israeli and I have mildly followed their lead in the past - but the more I read on here, the more I think the Americans have it right. The ducking and diving is more obvious than a Nigerian scam letter so I don't know who they think they are fooling with their silence

I want just one Moslem to post on here and give a summary of what they thought of him and whether, after the due process they feign to desire, they would have applauded a death sentence on him, carried out by a christian executioner in the USA - I think that would be revealing

I wont hold my breath waiting for that

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Charles is not the only non-Muslim "naysayer". If you paid attention and read the posts, you'd know that.

Most of the important information I get from this thread is what is not said who is not saying it

It is VERY telling

You drastically underestimate the people you are trying to fool with the steady drip-drip of what you believe they will swallow, and the obfuscation of the true purpose which is root Moslem solidarity at all times - which involves silence when you are not in agreement, and purposeful validations when you are.

That comes through very strongly showing that the strategy is flawed if it apparent to such as me whom you hold in such low esteem

Why don't you say something nasty about this killer of American Military personnel ?

That would then clear that issue away so people knew where you stood, and your other points could then be accredited with balance and less tainted by suspicion of bias

I dare you

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Alan, Alan, Alan... You seem to love to rant about "red neck, gun-toting right-wingers" ( which I doubt you understand in any appreciable way...it seems your education concerning your adopted country comes entirely from the daily kos) presumably because you perceive such people to be narrow minded and bigoted. Now I see several of your posts trying to rally these same to your cause on this thread. Perhaps you recognize these elements in your own reasoning? I don't know.... :unsure: You told me earlier that my long-winded, caffeine-addled rant (or something along those lines) was a turn-off. I would argue that constant labeling and name-calling....apologists, closet muslims, hippies, pseudo-intellectuals, red-necks, people who wear white t-shirts or goatees, etc.... is more of a turn off than anyone here who has tried to present structured and reasoned arguments. Angry, name-calling posts are a transparent attempt to shut off anyone who disagrees with you. You are on a board which was created for the purpose of giving those who are in loving relationships with people from all corners of the world a venue to discuss a variety of topics-eventually your sweeping caricatures of people and ideas you clearly don't understand covers everyone who doesn't completely agree with you. Kind of narrow-minded and bigoted, don't you think? You have chosen a pluralistic and democratic nation to call home. Your new home has been well-served for the past 220 years by our constitution. Love it, protect it, embrace it.

The pro constitutionalist arguments you are encountering here aren't new, and they weren't concocted recently by "closet muslim terrorist apologists" As a matter of fact, these debates go back to the very roots of constitutional government. Robert Bolt, inA Man for All Seasons outlines the basic argument beautifully:

William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

All very collegy and high sounding and carefully researched and contrived - but you wont say a bad word about al-marmalady and until you do, don't usurp and draw the cloak of the American people around you because it isn't available to you

Go onto the streets and hawk your wishy washy ideas about whether or not and to what extent or non you condemn this killer of American Service personnel. Stay silent when someone asks you. Claim the 5th . Claim anything you want - it still wont cut it because your silence on this charred killer's career is deafening

Until you get on board with team USA in this regard, you will be an outsider whether you were born here or not and whether you hold a prize in some discipline or not.

Shame eh - all that midnight oil and they still aren't fooled?

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All very collegy and high sounding and carefully researched and contrived - but you wont say a bad word about al-marmalady and until you do, don't usurp and draw the cloak of the American people around you because it isn't available to you

Go onto the streets and hawk your wishy washy ideas about whether or not and to what extent or non you condemn this killer of American Service personnel. Stay silent when someone asks you. Claim the 5th . Claim anything you want - it still wont cut it because your silence on this charred killer's career is deafening

Until you get on board with team USA in this regard, you will be an outsider whether you were born here or not and whether you hold a prize in some discipline or not.

Shame eh - all that midnight oil and they still aren't fooled?

I addressed everything that needs to be said about him earlier in this thread:

Gary and Alla, on 01 October 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

If the Muslim Terroists were captured and brought here for trial, tied and convicted...would you support executing them by lethal injection?

I have no problem with that, if you mean Americans that are accused of terrorism against the United States. I think a case could be made that they could be tried in absentia, and if found guilty, they could face the death sentence for treason. If such a sentence were handed down by the courts, then it would seem their killing, including by drone, would defensible.

BTW-My arguments were specifically directed at the matter of American citizens being killed by presidential attainder. The issue of killing foreigners in sovereign nations without a declaration of war is another matter entirely. Stretching the jurisdiction of American criminal law to these places is matter of mental acrobatics far beyond my limited capabilities.

Your murky statements about the "cloak of the American people" (whatever that is), once again demonstrates that you struggle with the concept of a free and open marketplace of ideas that is our democracy. You can't claim to be a spokesman for the "American people," any more than I can. And you don't get to pick who is or isn't on "Team USA." ROFL!

I'm happy that proficiency in my native language is "collegy and high sounding and carefully researched and contrived" But, really Alan, I'm just the humble product of an inferior yank public education system.

And I'm not as much of an outsider as you might think.... :hehe:

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