Questions on the application

[ConcordUser 18]

I am going to see my Atty next week and start finalizing the application for N-400. What is your suggestions on these questions?

1. Both me and my wife were currently married for 20 years. But before that we both were married to different people and divorced. I have my divorce papers from previous marriage. Do I need the divorce papers from my wife from her previous marriage? Do I need to send it along with the application?

2. I had couple of arrests but the cases were dismissed. Do I have to get the court certified record of the outcome? They are 15-20 year old incidents. If the court does not have the record can they give a court certified letter stating the record not found? What is the document requirement to send along with the application?

3. I have already applied for I-90 replacement card. Will the N-400 application processing will have any kind of effect on my I-90 processing?

4. They ask the details of children. My daughter goes to school and lives on campus. Do I put her as living with us or put her campus address?

Please give me your thoughts.

[CoffeeBeans 1]

I am going to see my Atty next week and start finalizing the application for N-400. What is your suggestions on these questions?

1. Both me and my wife were currently married for 20 years. But before that we both were married to different people and divorced. I have my divorce papers from previous marriage. Do I need the divorce papers from my wife from her previous marriage? Do I need to send it along with the application?

2. I had couple of arrests but the cases were dismissed. Do I have to get the court certified record of the outcome? They are 15-20 year old incidents. If the court does not have the record can they give a court certified letter stating the record not found? What is the document requirement to send along with the application?

3. I have already applied for I-90 replacement card. Will the N-400 application processing will have any kind of effect on my I-90 processing?

4. They ask the details of children. My daughter goes to school and lives on campus. Do I put her as living with us or put her campus address?

Please give me your thoughts.

Your attorney should be able to give you the best answers, he is paid to do the work for you. The people on here can only give their personal opinions, which can not be taken as legal advice.

Cheers

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

It takes a mentally retarded person about 20 minutes to fill out the N-400 form. That happens online by clicking with a mouse. If you need a lawyer for that, you most likely also need a nurse when going to the bathroom.

1) No.

2) Yes and yes.

3) No,

4) Yes. Either way.

[ConcordUser 18]

It takes a mentally retarded person about 20 minutes to fill out the N-400 form. That happens online by clicking with a mouse. If you need a lawyer for that, you most likely also need a nurse when going to the bathroom.

1) No.

2) Yes and yes.

3) No,

4) Yes. Either way.

Thanks. I might file the applicaiton my self, but just want to chat with the Atty and see if he can give any additonal input.

Your attorney should be able to give you the best answers, he is paid to do the work for you. The people on here can only give their personal opinions, which can not be taken as legal advice.

Cheers

Thanks. I understand. But it is always good to chat with others and see what their experiences are. I am one of those nervous wreck kind of guy and want to know the details. I'll start collecting the required papers. I want to make sure I have the papers ready and in hand ahead of time in case if they are required, as obtaining them will take time.

[NickD 203]

I am going to see my Atty next week and start finalizing the application for N-400. What is your suggestions on these questions?

1. Both me and my wife were currently married for 20 years. But before that we both were married to different people and divorced. I have my divorce papers from previous marriage. Do I need the divorce papers from my wife from her previous marriage? Do I need to send it along with the application?

2. I had couple of arrests but the cases were dismissed. Do I have to get the court certified record of the outcome? They are 15-20 year old incidents. If the court does not have the record can they give a court certified letter stating the record not found? What is the document requirement to send along with the application?

3. I have already applied for I-90 replacement card. Will the N-400 application processing will have any kind of effect on my I-90 processing?

4. They ask the details of children. My daughter goes to school and lives on campus. Do I put her as living with us or put her campus address?

Please give me your thoughts.

Where do you state if you are applying for the 3 or 5 year, yes for the 3 year, no for the 5 year.

No limits on arrest, have to say yes and provide details. Even a letter from the court that says no record.

Need a valid green card or proof you applied for one.

Home is the permanent address for any kid in college or in the military. That 3,500 buck IRS deduction doesn't even come close to expense we have to maintain a temporary address for living. One advantage of college, stepdaughter can be part of our health insurance at no extra cost, but she will be screwed blue come May when she graduates.

My immigration attorney checked over our N-400 marriage application, guy has 30 years of experience, was our first time. He did this at no charge to us, but did have four very important suggestions, that damned form is confusing. JustBob can call me an idiot, never had a course in interpreting USCIS. Didn't bother him for the five year, great percentage of the form was N/A's for my stepdaughter. But have been several people on this board with dumb attorneys that created new problems for them.

[ConcordUser 18]

Where do you state if you are applying for the 3 or 5 year, yes for the 3 year, no for the 5 year.

Hi NickD, I am confused with what you said here. I have been a GC holder for last 30 years and why would I say for the 3 year? Also, I dont see any question on the N-400 that says 3 / 5 year. Where do you see it?

[CoffeeBeans 1]

Hi NickD, I am confused with what you said here. I have been a GC holder for last 30 years and why would I say for the 3 year? Also, I dont see any question on the N-400 that says 3 / 5 year. Where do you see it?

I think he was asking if you are applying base on the "3-year married to an US citizen" or "5-year after you have been a green card holder" rule. He probably missed your original post where you stated you have had your green card for 30 years. So in your case, the latter (5-year) rule applies to you.

There are Pros and Cons for coming on here to ask questions. Pros : instant attention to your questions, lots of free "advice", some nice/polite comments, some unconditional emotional support, etc. Cons: many different views (on a same question), many conflicting answers confusing the hell out of you, some nasty/rude comments, negative feelings inflicted on you by some arrogant/rude posters, etc

The many different views you get on here are confusing, as you are already stating that now. A recent thread "Traffic tickets on N-400" is another good example of multiple views on a question, the OP complained he was confused many times.

Given this is a public forum, people are free to say whatever they want and cannot be held responsible, and you are going to see an attorney, won't it be better to consult him/her instead ? At least, the advice you get is from a qualified professional. Other advantages : this spares you from the excruciating "hair-pulling" moments deciding which of the conflicting "free advice" from this board you should be following, and you do not need to subject yourself to unwanted humiliating remarks from some posters.

Cheers

[NickD 203]

1. Both me and my wife were currently married for 20 years. But before that we both were married to different people and divorced. I have my divorce papers from previous marriage. Do I need the divorce papers from my wife from her previous marriage? Do I need to send it along with the application?

Read that part, also the card replacement part, wasn't sure if residence was here for those twenty years, or if that replacement card was for removal of conditions, so answered that question both ways.

Part II on the N-400 form asks how you are applying for the three or five year, augmented in the instructions, M-476 manual, and those four recently added supplements in the N-400 site. All in all, about 80 pages of reading and comprehension. That out of the country question for the last five years is always confusing for the three year marriage application. As is, did you ever commit a crime you were never arrested for. Latter lets the USCIS deport you if eventually caught for such a crime, kind of a trick question.

We found the N-400, the longest of all previous forms to be the most challenging for marriage, and also requiring the most evidence, a combination of both the AOS and the ROC stages we went through. But while filling it, learned then, that over 5,000 cases after citizenship approval were pending due to latter discoveries on how these forms were filled out. So getting that certificate is no guarantee you are safe after reading this. Justbob posted like a two year probationary period follows your certificate, but don't know where he found that.

In any case, really takes an effort to make sure all questions are filled out accurately. Instructions say takes an average of six hours to fill out the form and gather the required evidence. In our case, was more like 40 hours after reading and studying all the guidelines plus gathering all of that evidence. Is a lot easier for the five year as an LPR, also have to meet the resident requirements.

Best to ask specific questions on each line.

[ConcordUser 18]

In any case, really takes an effort to make sure all questions are filled out accurately. Instructions say takes an average of six hours to fill out the form and gather the required evidence. In our case, was more like 40 hours after reading and studying all the guidelines plus gathering all of that evidence. Is a lot easier for the five year as an LPR, also have to meet the resident requirements.

Best to ask specific questions on each line.

Hi NickD, I see the question in the part 2. I have been a legal PR for 5 years. So I am not sure if I need the divorce papers. It is good to have the documents together any way so I went and got my wife's previous marriage divorce papers and my marriage certificate papers. I need to go ahead and get my previous marriage divorce decree. I have a copy of it but not original, I'll go ahead and try to get it. Obtaning these documents can take weeks at times so it is good to be proactive and get all things together. I am sure Atty can help but it will take him same if not longer time to obtain these papers and charge me for his time. I am trying to do what ever leg work I can do ahead of time and gather the information. Thanks for your input and suggestions.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

What after 30 years as a Green Card holder made you decide to give it up now, if you don't mind my asking?

[ConcordUser 18]

What after 30 years as a Green Card holder made you decide to give it up now, if you don't mind my asking?

Hi Bob, I think it is about time I have done it. There are several reasons why I have not done so far. I am one of those nervous wreck type and worry for things, second my country did not allow dual citizenship, third for some time, I did not apply for the minor conviction even though it was vacated. Lately, when I am was travelling, I am getting hardtime from IO's due to my old green card even though it does not expire.I ask USCIS and they say it does not expire and dont need new one. Finally, I have decided to apply for the I-90 replacement card. I have no idea when I'll get that. In the mean time I have been thinking, my wife and kids are US Citizens and it is about time, I would take the opportunity to become a US Citizen also. Also, I want to participate in the political system and vote in the elections that would influence the future of my children. I am meeting with Atty tomorrow to get his advice and getting all the papers ready in the mean time. As you suggested, I might apply my self or let my Atty do the work. Let us see what he says tomorrow.

[NickD 203]

We applied at the earliest possible date primarily due to frustration with the removal of conditions stage. A year went by with no ten year cards, and even got a letter from the USCIS to update our evidence. Not a shed of new evidence was given for the N-400, they had everything from the adjustment of status and removal of conditions.

Really no new questions on the N-400, for the vast majority of that form, copied and pasted information from previous forms. Talk about redundancy, word has a new meaning with the USCIS. Really got teed off when I had to make yet another copy of my divorce papers, over 50 pages printed on both sides. How many marriage certificates do they need from us, had two already. Against our state law to make any form of copies, so sent in all originals. None of that is necessary for the five year, but do have to fill out the form on previous marriages.

Shouldn't really have any problems if you were married to the same woman for twenty years and have kids with her. People that have problems with those that shorty get divorced and marry somebody from their home country. They should have problems.

Felt a bit insecure with my stepdaughter with her five year, included tax transcripts and her university grade transcripts, her IO didn't even want to see those. Did demand she showed proof of payment for a couple of minor traffic violations, but that was corrected by his supervisor.

If you have minor violations, those date back from the time you were born, no statue of limitations with the USCIS.