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What do you guys think?

I am so sick and tired of people friends, certain family members, even strangers talking about the high divorce rate among Nigerians who come to America whether male or female. I hear it from everyone its really starting to annoy me and I felt like using this outlet to let out my steam. Like I tell them if you both know you love each other and trust each other then what’s the problem. I agree it will not be easy when they get here, we all know that. There is the culture shock and everything else that comes with entering a new environment. But is it impossible? NO!! Can it work? Of Course!!

This stereotype that all Nigerians just come to America for papers is annoying. Ok ALOT of them do, but then again some don’t. That’s why you take time and get to know the person you are dealing with. I have known my fiancé since 2005; we met at my cousin’s traditional wedding. I used to go home to see him, visit with his family, and know him from inside and out and once I felt this way it was then that I decided to file for him to come here. How do you guys handle this when people tell you "Oh he or she will change when they get to the states?" OR “The marriage will not work out?” Or “No matter what you know about him, he will leave you once he gets his green card”. I know that everything at the end of the day is in Gods hands, but I wanted to see what other people thought.

"No weapon formed against me shall prosper"

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What do you guys think?

I am so sick and tired of people friends, certain family members, even strangers talking about the high divorce rate among Nigerians who come to America whether male or female. I hear it from everyone its really starting to annoy me and I felt like using this outlet to let out my steam. Like I tell them if you both know you love each other and trust each other then what’s the problem. I agree it will not be easy when they get here, we all know that. There is the culture shock and everything else that comes with entering a new environment. But is it impossible? NO!! Can it work? Of Course!!

This stereotype that all Nigerians just come to America for papers is annoying. Ok ALOT of them do, but then again some don’t. That’s why you take time and get to know the person you are dealing with. I have known my fiancé since 2005; we met at my cousin’s traditional wedding. I used to go home to see him, visit with his family, and know him from inside and out and once I felt this way it was then that I decided to file for him to come here. How do you guys handle this when people tell you "Oh he or she will change when they get to the states?" OR “The marriage will not work out?” Or “No matter what you know about him, he will leave you once he gets his green card”. I know that everything at the end of the day is in Gods hands, but I wanted to see what other people thought.

Unfortunately, some people follow the herd. I know it's annoying, but as long as you're sure of what you're doing (and you seem like you are), I say ignore them, generalizing is retarded.

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AOS packet sent - 08/24/2011
AOS packet received - 08/31/2011
Checks cashed - 09/01/2011
NOA received - 09/6/2011
Biometrics appointment - 09/19/2011 - Done
RFE received - tax returns 2010 and original birth certificate - 9/19/2011
RFE sent 09/28/2011
EAD Card Production 10/20/2011
EAD Received 10/29/2011
Interview letter received 11/1/2011 Interview on 12/5/2011
Applied for SSN - will receive in 2 weeks
SSN Received
Interview - APPROVED!!! (Thank Allah)
Green card in hand 12/12/2011

Lifting Conditions

I-751 sent - 09/05/13

I-751 received - 09/06/13

Check cashed - 09/11/13

NOA received - 09/12/13

Biometrics Notice received - 09/19/13

Biometrics Done - 10/07/13

Case transferred to CSC - 10/08/13

Card Production Notice - 1/22/14

Card in Hand - 1/29/14 (Thank Allah)

Naturalization

N-400 sent - 12/29/14

Received - 12/31/14

Check Cashed - 1/7/15

NOA Received- 1/12/15

Biometrics - 1/29/15

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who cares what anyone else thinks... all that matters is that you two are sure about everything and your certain that it will work :)

I-129F SENT............................................08/15/2011

NOA1 TEXT/EMAIL...................................08/22/2011

NOA2 TEXT/EMAIL. NO RFE.....................01/05/2012

NVC RECEIVED......................................01/21/2012

NVC LEFT...............................................01/24/2012

PACKET 3 RECEIVED..............................02/01/2012

PACKET 3 RETURNED.............................02/04/2012

MEDICAL................................................02/17/2012

DS-2001 MAILED.....................................02/23/2012

PACKET 4 RECEIVED..............................03/02/2012

INTERVIEW............................................03/14/2012 APPROVED

POE ATLANTA.........................................04/03/2012

AOS approved 3/29/13 after almost 10 months of waiting. No RFE's and no interview.

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Better to have loved. And lost then to never have loved at all. I have heard the comments too. My fiaance is Nigerian and i say let them talk. i loved him with every fiber of my being and he loves me. i pray that things will work out but if not, i had a great love anyway!

08/01/12-Married08/17/12-Applied for Social Security Card09/23/12-Husband received his Social Security card!09/27/12-Filed AOS09/28/12-AOS package received10/01/12-Text message from USCIS10/03/12-Check cashed10/09/12-NOA1 for I485,I765,I131 AND Biometrics Appointment Letter10/24/12-Biometrics Appointment12/11/12-EAD and AP Approved-75 days12/14/12-EAD/AP Card Production ordered12/21/12-EAD/AP Card came in the mail06/22/13-Green Card Approved06/27/13-Greed Card Production Ordered06/29/13-Green Card came in the mail<p>

04/09/15-Mailed ROC

04/10/2015-Package received

04/14/2015-Check cashed

06/02/2015-Called Service Center (still no NOA1) Service request found out wrong address on paperwork! :(

06/03/2015-Called to get address updated Ar11 online add change didnt work-got infopass for June 10th

06/10/2015-Went to info pass appt. Hubby got a 1yr. Extension stamp in his passport and biometrics done

08/12/2015-ROC Approved. Got letter in the mail.

08/29/2015-received new card in the mail.

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What do you guys think?

I am so sick and tired of people friends, certain family members, even strangers talking about the high divorce rate among Nigerians who come to America whether male or female. I hear it from everyone its really starting to annoy me and I felt like using this outlet to let out my steam. Like I tell them if you both know you love each other and trust each other then what’s the problem. I agree it will not be easy when they get here, we all know that. There is the culture shock and everything else that comes with entering a new environment. But is it impossible? NO!! Can it work? Of Course!!

This stereotype that all Nigerians just come to America for papers is annoying. Ok ALOT of them do, but then again some don’t. That’s why you take time and get to know the person you are dealing with. I have known my fiancé since 2005; we met at my cousin’s traditional wedding. I used to go home to see him, visit with his family, and know him from inside and out and once I felt this way it was then that I decided to file for him to come here. How do you guys handle this when people tell you "Oh he or she will change when they get to the states?" OR “The marriage will not work out?” Or “No matter what you know about him, he will leave you once he gets his green card”. I know that everything at the end of the day is in Gods hands, but I wanted to see what other people thought.

The great thing is you have to live with what you do & who you choose to do it with. You seem to be prepared to fully support him as you should be. That means if all of these horrible people were right & you were wrong you will still be in a great positon to continue that support. Hopefully all those terrible people with all that bad advise & commentary will have faded into the background as you go forward.

You are in a fantasitc positon to be the one to break that annoying stereotype. Will it work you question? Of course. He wont be affected as many others have by living in the USA. You have made sure of this by knowing him inside out. Your judgement is sound other wise you might ask people you dont know for input.

You will have become the guiding light while doing Gods will. I see no reason to spend a second worrying about what he will do.

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What do you guys think?

I am so sick and tired of people friends, certain family members, even strangers talking about the high divorce rate among Nigerians who come to America whether male or female. I hear it from everyone its really starting to annoy me and I felt like using this outlet to let out my steam. Like I tell them if you both know you love each other and trust each other then what’s the problem. I agree it will not be easy when they get here, we all know that. There is the culture shock and everything else that comes with entering a new environment. But is it impossible? NO!! Can it work? Of Course!!

This stereotype that all Nigerians just come to America for papers is annoying. Ok ALOT of them do, but then again some don’t. That’s why you take time and get to know the person you are dealing with. I have known my fiancé since 2005; we met at my cousin’s traditional wedding. I used to go home to see him, visit with his family, and know him from inside and out and once I felt this way it was then that I decided to file for him to come here. How do you guys handle this when people tell you "Oh he or she will change when they get to the states?" OR “The marriage will not work out?” Or “No matter what you know about him, he will leave you once he gets his green card”. I know that everything at the end of the day is in Gods hands, but I wanted to see what other people thought.

HARMONY2012, you have never truck me the type that cares what others say or think! With that said, I feel you my friend. People talk and make judgments, but at the end of the day, it is you who has to go home to that person you have chosen to spend your life with and not them.

Marriage is hard work if anyone wants it to work. Yes, there is a chance of the marriage of not working. That chance exists with any marriage, culture, race and religion. NOT just by marrying a NIGERIAN!!!

Here on VJ, we have all read stories from all over the world with spouses, or fiances coming here and then leaving the petitioners. We hear the story from one side, not saying it is not true, but it takes two to make any relationship work.

I am at the point where I just don't listen to negative comments, I look forward and look forward to someday being with my man for whatever length of time I have with him. Life is too short, and if in our life we have experienced the glow that true love and happiness brings? then it is worth it all regardless of what others say or what happens five or ten years down the road.

God grant you all the joy and happiness you seek and deserve. :)

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HARMONY2012, you have never truck me the type that cares what others say or think! With that said, I feel you my friend. People talk and make judgments, but at the end of the day, it is you who has to go home to that person you have chosen to spend your life with and not them.

Marriage is hard work if anyone wants it to work. Yes, there is a chance of the marriage of not working. That chance exists with any marriage, culture, race and religion. NOT just by marrying a NIGERIAN!!!

Here on VJ, we have all read stories from all over the world with spouses, or fiances coming here and then leaving the petitioners. We hear the story from one side, not saying it is not true, but it takes two to make any relationship work.

I am at the point where I just don't listen to negative comments, I look forward and look forward to someday being with my man for whatever length of time I have with him. Life is too short, and if in our life we have experienced the glow that true love and happiness brings? then it is worth it all regardless of what others say or what happens five or ten years down the road.

God grant you all the joy and happiness you seek and deserve. :)

Hi Love....HAHA....Giiiirrrrrl glad I struck you as someone who could care less at what people say or do because you are absolutely correct. :thumbs: Anyways I was not really asking about my situation specifically and might have worded my post as if I was...I just wanted to hear what people thought it general about the stigma placed on people coming to America that they only want a visa (thought it would be an interesting topic, come to find out its been covered on VJ...LOL). Anyways there is nothing that anyone can say or do that can break the bond my sweetheart and I have built, WE know what we have been through and where we are going....Love, keep strong and keep pushin...You know that God is working all this out for you two...Always in my prayers....XOXO

Thank you everyone for your input and opinions. :)

"No weapon formed against me shall prosper"

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Stats from Nigeria are not pretty , about 1/4 will never get approved by the embassy before the relationship falls apart and about 1/2 of the ones that do make it will not last past 5 years. Are you in the 75% that are doomed or in the other part , no ones knows for sure because no one would go through this if they knew they would end up in the 75% that eventually fail. For someone to grow up in Nigeria and then just up and move to the US is hard, and it is harder when you are married to someone that understands little of your culture. Get mad if you want but you friends are just pointing out the facts.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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I came here as an immigrant myself from Germany and recently someone asked me : So why did you come here, was it because you wanted to make a better life for yourself ?

Heck no it wasn't. My life was fine.

I felt insulted and shocked.

Granted Nigeria is a high fraud country and Germany isn't but for a moment I felt what genuine Nigerians feel....the condescending remarks get old. Real old.

Though I believe the people saying this to you do it because they are concerned about you and want you to do the right thing, the right thing they would do is not your right thing. Do your thing...lol. It's your life.

When friends and family make those remarks to me I respond depending on the situation/person :

1. Don't stereotype. Period.

2. I am capable of making my own choices and accepting the consequences of the outcome,the good, the bad and the ugly.

3. Why, don't you think I got it going on enough to keep my man ? Rather insulting !

4. Thank you for your advice, I know you mean well but you are now beating a dead horse and my mind is made up.

5. I thought it through, did my research, know my man and this subject is now closed from here on. Either support me or don't. Subject done. Conversation over. Would you like some tea ?

Try responding with the answers confidently and they will soon stop. Never discuss adjustment problems with them but find supportive friends who know what's up and are supportive or else you will hear " I told you so's" for every little thing.

It is just one of the little baggage deals that comes with the package.

By the way, over here we have scammers with brief cases, CEO's and politicians dressed in Italian suits and bankers and hedge fund 3 ring circus acrobats. Drum roll :o:hehe::blush:

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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Stats from Nigeria are not pretty , about 1/4 will never get approved by the embassy before the relationship falls apart and about 1/2 of the ones that do make it will not last past 5 years. Are you in the 75% that are doomed or in the other part , no ones knows for sure because no one would go through this if they knew they would end up in the 75% that eventually fail. For someone to grow up in Nigeria and then just up and move to the US is hard, and it is harder when you are married to someone that understands little of your culture. Get mad if you want but you friends are just pointing out the facts.

You have a valid point NigeriaorBust! You and your husband are among the small percentage, that have survived the roller coaster ride with VJ, and made it work. I am sure, it takes compromise and commitment from both of you, to make your marriage work. Also, you had to learn about your husband's culture, and adapt to his ways. He, also had to do the same, once here. Yes, it's not easy to "just get up and move to the US, and leave family and friends, and a lifetime of bonds and memories behind". But, the fact remains WE chose to be with Nigerian men/women. They have chosen to love someone, other than their country men/women. Therefore, adapting to each other is necessary, and moving is part of making these relationships work, granted if by grace of God """the key to heaven's gate""" is granted from the US Embassy in Lagos someday.

Family and friends do not understand what is involved in our relationships, what we endure. Others, who are going through it do. Friends and families, of course, with good intentions state concerns and pointing out their opinions, based on the ongoing stories, which are mostly true. Given the numbers you stated, I can see why the outcome is so grim for most. The entire visa journey is hellish, and very stressful and costly. It takes a lot more than just love. It takes a lot of patience, money, and endurance to get through this long and difficult journey. Understandably, some of us will not survive, weather willingly, or unwillingly, due to circumstances and situations, which arises from all that is involved.

Obviously, after taking under consideration the low percentage of the survival, I say most of "our marriages" will NOT work out. But each of us prays, we are in that small percentage. Realistically speaking, I know that is not the case. :bonk:

In general, marriage is not easy. In order for it to last, it takes an ongoing communication and work. One has to ask themselves, these days, is marriage given the respect, honesty, and commitment, it requires to survive and last? regardless of where someone is from?

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I came here as an immigrant myself from Germany and recently someone asked me : So why did you come here, was it because you wanted to make a better life for yourself ?

Heck no it wasn't. My life was fine.

I felt insulted and shocked.

Granted Nigeria is a high fraud country and Germany isn't but for a moment I felt what genuine Nigerians feel....the condescending remarks get old. Real old.

Though I believe the people saying this to you do it because they are concerned about you and want you to do the right thing, the right thing they would do is not your right thing. Do your thing...lol. It's your life.

When friends and family make those remarks to me I respond depending on the situation/person :

1. Don't stereotype. Period.

2. I am capable of making my own choices and accepting the consequences of the outcome,the good, the bad and the ugly.

3. Why, don't you think I got it going on enough to keep my man ? Rather insulting !

4. Thank you for your advice, I know you mean well but you are now beating a dead horse and my mind is made up.

5. I thought it through, did my research, know my man and this subject is now closed from here on. Either support me or don't. Subject done. Conversation over. Would you like some tea ?

Try responding with the answers confidently and they will soon stop. Never discuss adjustment problems with them but find supportive friends who know what's up and are supportive or else you will hear " I told you so's" for every little thing.

It is just one of the little baggage deals that comes with the package.

By the way, over here we have scammers with brief cases, CEO's and politicians dressed in Italian suits and bankers and hedge fund 3 ring circus acrobats. Drum roll :o:hehe::blush:

:rofl: I love the way you think. Thanks Ebunoluwa! This is why we have our say and respect each other's opinion. Each of us brings something to the table. Collectively, we help each other understand and see clearly.

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What do you guys think?

I am so sick and tired of people friends, certain family members, even strangers talking about the high divorce rate among Nigerians who come to America whether male or female. I hear it from everyone its really starting to annoy me and I felt like using this outlet to let out my steam. Like I tell them if you both know you love each other and trust each other then what’s the problem. I agree it will not be easy when they get here, we all know that. There is the culture shock and everything else that comes with entering a new environment. But is it impossible? NO!! Can it work? Of Course!!

This stereotype that all Nigerians just come to America for papers is annoying. Ok ALOT of them do, but then again some don’t. That’s why you take time and get to know the person you are dealing with. I have known my fiancé since 2005; we met at my cousin’s traditional wedding. I used to go home to see him, visit with his family, and know him from inside and out and once I felt this way it was then that I decided to file for him to come here. How do you guys handle this when people tell you "Oh he or she will change when they get to the states?" OR “The marriage will not work out?” Or “No matter what you know about him, he will leave you once he gets his green card”. I know that everything at the end of the day is in Gods hands, but I wanted to see what other people thought.

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