Father of k2 Recipient

[kennym 275]

My wife would like to know if there is anything we can do to help the father of her daughter secure a visitors visa to come see his daughter...

Any thoughts?

[canadian_wife 1,829]

The father will have to qualify for the visa himself, showing strong ties to Columbia. You may write a letter of invite, even offer to pay all his expenses, but in the end, he'll have to qualify on his own

Good luck

[kennym 275]

The father will have to qualify for the visa himself, showing strong ties to Columbia. You may write a letter of invite, even offer to pay all his expenses, but in the end, he'll have to qualify on his own

Good luck

Great thanks.. That is kind of what I figured..

I was hoping there was special consideration for parents of young children...

Kenny

[canadian_wife 1,829]

I assume to move to the US the father had to give his permission right? That sort of takes away any special consideration as the father had to give up certain rights to allow the child to move in the first place

Good luck

[kennym 275]

I cant think of any document that the father has signed giving up any relationship with the daughter..

Still looking for any ideas from those who may have dealt with this kind of situation... There may be nothing, and it may be that there is nothing I or the Mother, or the daughter can offer, but never hurts to ask, ank seek experiences from others that may have discovered some ways to give the father added consideration...

Thanks again for your help

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

The consulate won't be concerned about whether he's got a valid reason for visiting the US. They'll be concerned about whether he's got very strong reasons for returning to his home country after his visit has ended. In general, the lower a country's standard of living is compared to the US, the more difficult it will be to get a B2 visitors visa there. The consulate will want to see evidence of strong ties to his home country, such as a good job, ownership of property, family members who are dependent on his physical presence, etc.

In many ways, his having a child in the US is a disadvantage in getting a B2 visa. He could come to the US and live as an illegal alien until his daughter becomes a US citizen and is 21 years old. At that point, she could file a petition and get him a green card, in spite of his years of unlawful status. This is possible if he enters the US with a visa. In the consulate's eyes, it actually increases the risk that he won't come back.

[kennym 275]

The consulate won't be concerned about whether he's got a valid reason for visiting the US. They'll be concerned about whether he's got very strong reasons for returning to his home country after his visit has ended. In general, the lower a country's standard of living is compared to the US, the more difficult it will be to get a B2 visitors visa there. The consulate will want to see evidence of strong ties to his home country, such as a good job, ownership of property, family members who are dependent on his physical presence, etc.

In many ways, his having a child in the US is a disadvantage in getting a B2 visa. He could come to the US and live as an illegal alien until his daughter becomes a US citizen and is 21 years old. At that point, she could file a petition and get him a green card, in spite of his years of unlawful status. This is possible if he enters the US with a visa. In the consulate's eyes, it actually increases the risk that he won't come back.

Hey Jim

Thanks for your reply. I personally dont know very much about the father, but I do know he is re-married and has a child with his new wife and a good job.. Interesting enough, I also personally know the fathers Mom (Grandmother), who currently has a visitors visa, and I know her family is fairly well off by Colombian Standards..

Just a side note, most Typical Colombians all would love to visit the US just to get to see it, but I know of very few that would be willing to live here.. Most that I know are very prideful of their culture and enjoy the richness that their culture offers despite the normal struggles of their daily lives.. Their priorities are completely diferent than ours.. I also would add, that if I could find a way to support myself there, I would rather live in Colombia than here.. I realize that's niether here-nor-there, but just a side comment..

Do you think the ties he has with his family, job, and child, would overcome the negative impact of having his daughter here in the US? I realize it's impossible to know for sure.. But just your thoughts...

Kenny

[canadian_wife 1,829]

I cant think of any document that the father has signed giving up any relationship with the daughter..

I am sure he didn't

However, the US consulate won't care about a father's desire to see his child when the father rightfully knew the child was going to the US and thus, the father won't see said child often

It is not about his need to go to the US, it is about his absolute need to return to Columbia. What ties does the father have?

Good luck

[kennym 275]

I am sure he didn't

However, the US consulate won't care about a father's desire to see his child when the father rightfully knew the child was going to the US and thus, the father won't see said child often

It is not about his need to go to the US, it is about his absolute need to return to Columbia. What ties does the father have?

Good luck

Hello,

Thank you very much..I appreciate your reply..

Althought I understand the US's View Point, I want to briefly throw in some irrelavent thoughts... (IMO) it is somewhat arrogant on the part of the US, to beleive the US is the best place to be for any forreigner, not to metion callus for the immigrating children,, Colombians dont want to leave thier country.. They are routinely ranked as one of the happiest countries in the world.. Anyhow, that doesnt matter for our purpose, just felt the need to throw that in..

On another note, I have a lot of respect for the father, even though he is my wife's ex.. I do know he loves his daughter very much, and although he did somewhat give his permission for his daughter to come to the US, it was very dificult for him to do, and I would like to do whatever is possible to help him have the option to visit his daughter..

As far as ties; The father is re-married, has a good job, has a child with he new wife.. Those are the things I know about.. (See prior post above)

DO you feel that is enough? What else will he need to show..I would like to do what I can to help him prepare..

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Hello,

Thank you very much..I appreciate your reply..

Althought I understand the US's View Point, I want to briefly throw in some irrelavent thoughts... (IMO) it is somewhat arrogant on the part of the US, to beleive the US is the best place to be for any forreigner, not to metion callus for the immigrating children,, Colombians dont want to leave thier country.. They are routinely ranked as one of the happiest countries in the world.. Anyhow, that doesnt matter for our purpose, just felt the need to throw that in..

On another note, I have a lot of respect for the father, even though he is my wife's ex.. I do know he loves his daughter very much, and although he did somewhat give his permission for his daughter to come to the US, it was very dificult for him to do, and I would like to do whatever is possible to help him have the option to visit his daughter..

As far as ties; The father is re-married, has a good job, has a child with he new wife.. Those are the things I know about.. (See prior post above)

DO you feel that is enough? What else will he need to show..I would like to do what I can to help him prepare..

Why is it arrogant for the US to presume that all foreign nationals entering the US have the intention to immigrate??? Lots of people illegally immigrate to the US every year. The US allows millions of visitors into the country every year. The US also has lots of visitors violate their visitor visas and overstay every year. Why is it arrogant to say if you want to visit the US, you need to prove to us that you have strong ties to your home country to assure us that you will leave when your authorized visit expires????

No one claims that the US is "the best place for any foreigner." For any particular person, the US may not be the best. For lots of people with dreams of a better life, the US is their first choice of any country they would want to immigrate to.

Given the choice between the USA and Columbia, you and your wife choose the US.

Why is it callous to immigrating children? You and your wife took her out of Columbia. You choose to separate her from her father. You and your wife could have chose a life in Columbia where your stepdaughter could see her father whenever. She is free to travel back to Columbia anytime she wants to see her father.

I like you. I am not trying to start a fight. I feel what you posted is unfair.

Edited September 26, 2011 by Jojo92122

[Jojo92122 1,924]

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/illegal.pdf

Columbia is 11th on the list of the top twenty countries of origin of illegal immigrants. Should the US not be concern about this when assessing the presumption of illegal immigration when Colombians apply for visitor visas?

I understand this is a generalization and may not be the desire of the father. This is why there is a process to weed out those who may abuse the visitor visa.

[Darnell 8,479]

Eh - by law - anyone applying for a tourist visa is first considered to be trying to immigrate.

Any VO considers this, they are required so to do,

then

it's on the TOURIST VISA APPLICANT to prove up that he'll not try to immigrate to the USA,

by

showing strong ties to his home country.

IMO, anything you 'give him' for his case (letters, invitations, expense covering lists) will actually damage his chance of receiving a tourist visa.

[kennym 275]

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/illegal.pdf

Columbia is 11th on the list of the top twenty countries of origin of illegal immigrants. Should the US not be concern about this when assessing the presumption of illegal immigration when Colombians apply for visitor visas?

I understand this is a generalization and may not be the desire of the father. This is why there is a process to weed out those who may abuse the visitor visa.

I did not that.. Interesting Statistic.. I dont know those people that are immigrating illegally.. I've spent years in Colombia between 2006 and 2010, And, I may have ran across some people frustrated with the challenges thier country has, but they all had soo much pride in thier country and the culture and all were happy with thier seemingly rich family lives and the relationships they had there.. Everyone I ever spoke to asked about any interest in visiting the USA, most indicated no interest and many were even afraid due to the News of School shootings, and kids being killed by thier moms, and all kinds of scary new reports, that they were afraid to come here..

I dont disagree with the US or any other country preventing illegal immigration.. What I am saying is that we have people attempting to do things the right way.. A childs father who genuinly wants to see his daughter on occasion.. He has his family back home, and has no intention to abandon them.. How does that person overcome all the suspicion that the US has?

A genuine / legitimate reason to travel to the US, and very good ties back to Colombia, and a USC willing to vouch for him..

Anyhow, I dont want this to turn into a political topic, just sometimes find that we (the USA) makes it hard on good people while trying to keep the bad ones out..

[kennym 275]

Eh - by law - anyone applying for a tourist visa is first considered to be trying to immigrate.

Any VO considers this, they are required so to do,

then

it's on the TOURIST VISA APPLICANT to prove up that he'll not try to immigrate to the USA,

by

showing strong ties to his home country.

IMO, anything you 'give him' for his case (letters, invitations, expense covering lists) will actually damage his chance of receiving a tourist visa.

Really?

How frustrating... and sad...

So, is there anything I can do to help him prepare?

Any suggestions I can provide him to improve his chances?

[Darnell 8,479]

You might want to go over the 'strong ties list' found on most US Embassy/Tourist Visa Applicant / FAQ Section, soonish.