SHOCK: PALIN pulls within 5 points of OBAMA

[Danno 1,228]

Poll finds Obama losing ground to Republicans

WASHINGTON -- Look out President Barack Obama. Even Sarah Palin's gaining on you.

A new McClatchy-Marist poll finds that Obama looks increasingly vulnerable in next year's election, with a majority of voters believing he'll lose to any Republican, a solid plurality saying they'll definitely vote against him and most potential Republican challengers gaining on him.

Even in potential matchups where he leads, Obama in most cases has lost ground to the Republican.

The biggest gain came for Palin, the former Alaska governor who hasn't yet announced whether she'll jump into the fast-changing race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

After trailing Obama by more than 20 percentage points in polls all year, the new national survey, taken Sept. 13-14, found Palin trailing the president by just 5 points, 49-44 percent. The key reason: She now leads Obama among independents, a sharp turnaround.

Overall, the gains among Republicans "speak to Obama's decline among independents generally, and how the middle is not his right now," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the national survey.

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"This will require him to find ways to either win back the middle or energize his base in ways that hasn't happened so farm" Miringoff said

By a margin of 49 percent to 36 percent, voters said they definitely plan to vote against Obama, according to the poll. Independents by 53 percent to 28 percent said they definitely plan to vote against him.

With that sentiment permeating the electorate a little more than a year before the general election, most Americans think Obama won't win a second term.

By 52 percent to 38 percent, voters think he'll lose to the Republican nominee, whoever that is. Even among Democrats, 31 percent think the Republican nominee will win.

The poll comes as the Republican candidates head to Orlando, Fla., for another debate on Thursday night, their second in the battleground state in 10 days.

Gov. Rick Perry of Texas continues to lead the field of announced candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, supported by 30 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. He was followed by former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 22 percent and Rep. Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota with 12 percent.

Others trailed in single digits: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas had 7 percent; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich had 6 percent; business executive Herman Cain had 5 percent, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania had 2 percent, and former Gov. Jon Huntsman of Utah had 1 percent.

Two potential candidates - Palin and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - would trail Perry but jump into the top tier along with Romney and Bachmann, the survey found.

The field lines up differently, though, when matched against Obama.

While most of the Republicans have gained on Obama, he still leads all of the announced candidates.

"His saving grace right now has to do with fact that the GOP field has not yet demonstrated the appeal to capitalize on his weaknesses," said Miringoff.

Giuliani would do the best against the president, leading Obama by 49 percent to 42 percent. He trailed by 5 points in an August poll, and by 7 in June.

Obama is neck and neck with Romney, leading by 46-44. Obama had led by 5 points in August, 4 points in June, and 1 point in April. Romney now leads among independents, 44 percent to 40 percent.

Obama leads Perry by 50 percent to 41 percent. They split independents 43-43. Obama had led Perry by 19 points in August, as Perry was joining the campaign.

Obama leads Bachmann 53 percent to 40 percent. He had led her by 17 points in August, by 12 points in June.

Obama leads Palin by 49 percent to 44 percent. He led in August by 21 points, in June by 26 points, and in April by 22 points.

Despite the suggestion that Giuliani would be the party's strongest general election candidate, and that Palin would be much stronger than earlier believed, Republicans do not want them to get into the race.

By 72 percent to 24 percent, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents do not want Palin to run for president in 2012. Even among tea party supporters - a group that likes Palin - 68 percent do not want her to run.

And by 58 percent to 32 percent, Republican voters do not want Giuliani, who ran and lost in 2008, to run in 2012.

METHODOLOGY

This survey of 1,042 adults was conducted on Sept. 13-14. Adults 18 and older residing in the continental United States were interviewed by telephone. Telephone numbers were selected based upon a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its population. To increase coverage, this land-line sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of cell phone numbers. The two samples were then combined. Results are statistically significant within plus or minus 3.0 percentage points. There are 825 registered voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant within plus or minus 3.5 percentage points. There are 317 Republicans and Republican leaning independents. The results for this subset are statistically significant within plus or minus 5.5 percentage points. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations.

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[Pooky 3,827]

It's silly season all right

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It is not a shock. Obama is pretty much valueless as a President. People will eventually find out.

I expect now to see Hillary run against him and challenge him in Democratic primaries. It happened to Carter and Carter was far better as President.

It is possible now that even Dems would vote for a woman.

Edited September 21, 2011 by Gary and Alla

[The_Dude 1,142]

It is not a shock. Obama is pretty much valueless as a President. People will eventually find out.

I expect now to see Hillary run against him and challenge him in Democratic primaries. It happened to Carter and Carter was far better as President.

It is possible now that even Dems would vote for a woman.

Your passive aggressive assertion of liberal misogyny is not only disingenuous but factually incorrect. None of this will ever happen, you are a political neophyte and should stick to gun threads.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Your passive aggressive assertion of liberal misogyny is not only disingenuous but factually incorrect. None of this will ever happen, you are a political neophyte and should stick to gun threads.

Yeah, you are probably right. Dems won't vote for a woman

Edited September 21, 2011 by Gary and Alla

[The_Dude 1,142]

Yeah, you are probably right. Dems won't vote for a woman

So Gary, how was your experience at the Gathering of Juggalos?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yeah, you are probably right. Dems won't vote for a woman

She lost the contest for the party nomination, but plenty of Democrats voted for her. I'm not even a voter in the US and I knew that

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

She lost the contest for the party nomination, but plenty of Democrats voted for her. I'm not even a voter in the US and I knew that

Not enough is not "plenty". Even a non-native English speaker would know that.

[Ban Hammer 13,498]

sarah met eric?

[luckytxn 2,265]

It is pretty pathetic if an idiot like Obama the Socialist can have people wanting Palin.

[Danno 1,228]

It is pretty pathetic if an idiot like Obama the Socialist can have people wanting Palin.

I predicted even people who don't like Palin... would vote for her, if nothing else to stop the Obama pain.

Palin is not my first few choices but I would vote for her in a heartbeat......

Just trying to imagine Obama in office until 2016 is more than a sobering thought.

[luckytxn 2,265]

There is always other choices than these two losers. To pick one of these two only is what is wrong with the country.

[Ban Hammer 13,498]

Just trying to imagine Obama in office until 2016 is more than a sobering thought.

sobering - heck, it makes me want to drink.

[MyLittlePony 340]

They are all a awful bunch of idiots i take OBAMA over tard Palin.

[rlogan 2,036]

There is always other choices than these two losers. To pick one of these two only is what is wrong with the country.

The way they (Republicrat and Demicans) got away with it was by commandeering the electoral system and turning it in to a hoax. It's ironic that the founders themselves immediately formed the very parties they warned about in the Federalist Papers - and once they did went about turning it into a two-party hoax where voters in their booth are deluded into thinking they are voting for president themselves. If they weren's such morons they'd know they were choosing electors, but the parties got every state to write the ballot in a deceptive way, making people think they were voting directly for president. You see that name but if you are from California you are selecting 55 people at the same time, none of which you even know the names of. They got almost every state to do it the same way. Then they amended the constitution so that state legislatures no longer picked senators. The senate was supposed to be the body that represented states. That is why the legislature needs to pick them, not to make them races between national parties. They turned the senate into a second useless house of representatives.

Two Party Tyranny.