Obama set to outpace Bush on deportations

[The_Dude 1,142]

Truth is this huge costly mechanism to handle illegals does not go away when the deportation numbers go down. It is kinda like the Post Office... do you really think the cost of postal service goes up or down according to the monthly mail load?

Even if we used your number... of 11,500 per offender.

How many years of social services, public schools spots, tax rebates, emergency room visits etc before it adds up to that inflated cost you quoted of Eleven and a half grand?

Not very long.

11,500 is a cheap figure for criminals. Domestic, violent criminals cost far more than that, yet we don't talk about shipping them out.

[Danno 1,228]

Dr. Jekyll

Mr. Hyde

Seems (to me) you are comparing apples to oranges.

You in another thread thought TX made a reference to money and Jews... in a slurring fashion. He said he would never stoop to that level.

Now you compare the generic "Obama is a socialist" charge to a slur against jews.

I don't know, to me it seems like..... two different things on two different levels.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Seems (to me) you are comparing apples to oranges.

You in another thread thought TX made a reference to money and Jews... in a slurring fashion. He said he would never stoop to that level.

Now you compare the generic "Obama is a socialist" charge to a slur against jews.

I don't know, to me it seems like..... two different things on two different levels.

I don't think referring to Obama as a socialist makes you a racist. It does make you look like an imbecile though.

[Danno 1,228]

I don't think referring to Obama as a socialist makes you a racist. It does make you look like an imbecile though.

Speaking of looking like an "imbecile.

socialism |ˈsō sh əˌlizəm|

noun

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

• policy or practice based on this theory.

• (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

The term “socialism” has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market.The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended toward social democracy.

If Obama is not a socialist... he ain't far from it. (as are many in his party).

[The_Dude 1,142]

Speaking of looking like an "imbecile.

socialism |ˈsō sh əˌlizəm|

noun

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

• policy or practice based on this theory.

• (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

The term “socialism” has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market.The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended toward social democracy.

If Obama is not a socialist... he ain't far from it. (as are many in his party).

Danno, they make medication that helps with delusions and hallucinations. If you think we are transitioning towards communism, then you should seek medical help. Good luck, and stay safe!

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, they make medication that helps with delusions and hallucinations. If you think we are transitioning towards communism, then you should seek medical help. Good luck, and stay safe!

That's your come-back?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You're pretty simplistic in your definitions there Danno.

[Danno 1,228]

You're pretty simplistic in your definitions there Danno.

Not my definition.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No Danno, but you always go to the dictionary. That will only get you so far. It does not make you an expert on political theory.

[Danno 1,228]

No Danno, but you always go to the dictionary. That will only get you so far. It does not make you an expert on political theory.

Your kidding right?

SOme people (you included) throw around words without (apparently) even knowing what the definitions are.

One of my thankless tasks here at VJ is to help you in this area.

But one day you will thank me,... when the sting of truth is not so sharp.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your kidding right?

SOme people (you included) throw around words without (apparently) even knowing what the definitions are.

One of my thankless tasks here at VJ is to help you in this area.

But one day you will thank me,... when the sting of truth is not so sharp.

No Danno, I'm not kidding.

You post dictionary definitions of complex terms as if you think they somehow stand on their own - regardless of the decades worth of discussion and study.

I believe you do this because you like looking a clown. It's funny perhaps to you - I think to most others it is simply tedious.

[The_Dude 1,142]

That's your come-back?

Well danno, the only other explanation of your sad analysis would involve me breaching the TOS. So no, I won't go there, despite your ignorance.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

This just means he is wasting more money than Bush. Woo hoo!

If he made in an economic impossibility for American companies to exploit humans for profit by avoiding laws we have passed to protect American workers, we would not need ANY deportations.

Obama opposes minimum wage, workplace safety, medicare, social security, ADA and FMLA, among other things and prefers to look the other way while companies increase their profit by depriving exploited humans of these benefits

[웃 910]

His number wasn't 1,265 trillion, it was 1.265 trillion (1,265 billion). I think you missed the .00 at the end and thought it was ,000.

The correct number is still 126 billion - he was wrong by one order of magnitude, not 1,000.

You got me. But the way he worded it I think maybe even he thought it was 1,265 trillion?

Who puts .00 after a long string of numbers? Strange.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Why is it OK with anyone that illegals can be exploited for profit?

Why deport them? Why not enforce the laws we made to protect American workers and stop allowing employers to evade the laws we made to assure dignity to workers? Makes no sense at all.

We really need to stop arguing over what to do with illegals once they are here and eliminate the REASON they are trafficked.

You got me. But the way he worded it I think maybe even he thought it was 1,265 trillion?

Who puts .00 after a long string of numbers? Strange.

Who argues about nonsense while millions are exploited for profit?