K-1 visa denied

[Oksana & Max 94]

i agree with this, something...SOMETHING had to have come up during the interview to cause suspicion, if all that good hearty evidence was taken, thats enough to establish a relationship........either they were just having a bad day and decided to deny without cause...or maybe he said something he wasnt supposed to...or maybe there is something you dont know about and USCIS found out about it?.......

It has nothing to do with USCIS. If USCIS had some suspicions, they would send RFE, or even deny way before it made to consulate. Seems like Armenia is one of the hard consulates, as it had several frauds already.

[Oksana & Max 94]

221g to provide a cosponsor even though you met the requirements but visa denied for not enough relationship evidence even though you provided plenty. is this something that happens often... visa denied after administrative review for a reason different to the one on the 221g??? surely the not enough evidence of relationship should of been listed on the 221g??

sounds like this visa was gonna be denied no matter what

I have to agree here. If OP makes enough, why would they ask for a co-sponsor. And it more seems like that their intention was to deny it no matter what regardless of 221g.

I would want to look at the statistics for this embassy. I work for the DoS, let me see if I can get some of those statistics from my local channels (can't promise anything).

[san diego 407]

ok guys, here is the story. We met 6 years ago in Armenia, kept in touch. 4 years ago i went back and we started dating. During these 4 years we both graduated colleges, he went to army (required by law, otherwise forget about USA or any place else), we grew up a little, i became a citizen and bluh bluh. I went to Armenia in 2007, 2008, summer 2010, april 2011. Last december i applied for I-129F, got approved without a problem. Sent all the evidence possible. He went for the interview. They gave him yellow slip 221g (not a denial, just request for some documents). 221g said that we need to provide a co-sponsor, and so we did, very good one who makes over $120000 a year. Today they called him and asked him to come in, they gave him back the passport saying that they denied him (NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE-was their answer, all the other questions direct to USCIS). And here it is: neither of us was ever married, had children. He never attempted to come to US. neither of us have criminal records, nor medical problems, he works, I work and pay my taxes. Case complete, nothing more, nothing less. Now, i don't know what their thought process is and how messed up are there. But thank you JimVaPhuong and Oksana & Max for answering my original question.

USCIS did not deny us, they approved the petition without a problem

I agree with previous posters that say that there must be some serious issue that came up during the interview. They never deny just like that especially considering your relationship. I seen a lot of posts stating that K1 was denied for no reason but later people find out why and realize that the reason was serious. Are you related on any way? Do your parents know each other? How did you meet first time? I think the answer is there...

[Oksana & Max 94]

I agree with previous posters that say that there must be some serious issue that came up during the interview. They never deny just like that especially considering your relationship. I seen a lot of posts stating that K1 was denied for no reason but later people find out why and realize that the reason was serious. Are you related on any way? Do your parents know each other? How did you meet first time? I think the answer is there...

If you are referring to arrange marriage, which could be common for this country. And even if this is an arrange marriage, there should be no problem, we are seeing plenty of arrange marriages on VJ especially Pakistan and India, and there is no issues. Unless they are related in someway and Embassy find out about that.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Oksana & Max

[SSSSS 13]

I agree with previous posters that say that there must be some serious issue that came up during the interview. They never deny just like that especially considering your relationship. I seen a lot of posts stating that K1 was denied for no reason but later people find out why and realize that the reason was serious. Are you related on any way? Do your parents know each other? How did you meet first time? I think the answer is there...

God no, we are not related. In fact we and our families were born in different countries, so I don't see how it is even possible to be related. I in Armenia, him in Azerbaijan. And no, there was no way our parents could meet in person (that's a very expensive trip for 3), they met on skype though.

[SSSSS 13]

If you are referring to arrange marriage, which could be common for this country. And even if this is an arrange marriage, there should be no problem, we are seeing plenty of arrange marriages on VJ especially Pakistan and India, and there is no issues. Unless they are related in someway and Embassy find out about that.

this is NOT an arranged marriage, and we are NOT related, to be clear on that. 2. Arranged marriages in Armenia are very uncommon in 21 century.

[san diego 407]

this is NOT an arranged marriage, and we are NOT related, to be clear on that. 2. Arranged marriages in Armenia are very uncommon in 21 century.

I did not mean "arranged" marriage. I asked if "your parents or relatives know each other or friends". There is a difference. Why I am asking is because they may think that it was for immigration purposes. In this case you will know how to re-battle. If not, then there must be something serious that he is not telling you. I would have a call with him. In any case I would hire a good lawyer. I can recommend one if you like.

Edited September 15, 2011 by san diego

[Oksana & Max 94]

this is NOT an arranged marriage, and we are NOT related, to be clear on that. 2. Arranged marriages in Armenia are very uncommon in 21 century.

I am sorry if I offended you this was not an intention.

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***** Topic moved from K1 to Waivers forum as the more appropriate place to discuss what comes next *****

[JoannaV 174]

They never deny just like that especially considering your relationship.

I wouldn't agree with this. Some COs will. And sometimes USCIS will even acknowledge that.

[SSSSS 13]

People, I'm not witholding information, nor he is witholding information, we trust each other. he would tell me if there was something more, so then we could think on how to fix it, or what to do. He wants this visa as much as I do. I do believe that US embassy in any country has a problem giving people visas (becuase US is the most immigrated country), even a very very small thing can cause a denial. If they will need to see 10 pictures (which they will not say), and you give them 8, they will deny. Their minds are narrow. I'm am not looking for reasons now, USCIS will tell me. TIME is my concern.

I thank everyone for participating in this topic. If anyone has any other information on how long does it take for USCIS to receive papers from the embassy, please write me a personal message. But my posts end here.

[Love Eth 14]

I'm already sending letters to the embassy and to the NJ senator (yet again). I need to know how long does it take for USCIS to get the papers from the embassy.

in the embassy they said that all the questions should be directed to USCIS after they receive all the papers back from the embassy. Embassy does not answer questions

The petition will be sent to the USCIS via NVC with adiplomatic pouch. It might take up to 8 weeks because mine took that long. And afterthat there was another 2 weeks to get to the USCIS. So roughly it might take8-10 week to get to the USCIS. However, your petition validity date has a bigfactor on the review at the USCIS. USCIS will keep it until the validation expiresand after that will send you a letter saying “USCIS will no longer review yourpetition due to the expiration; so that you can file another petition with therequired amount.” My advice, find out why the petition denied and get ready tofile another K-1 or Spousal. But find out why you are dined. Best way let yourSenator involved. I was in this situation and now my fiancée is interviewedagain.

Good Luck

[baron555 934]

People, I'm not witholding information, nor he is witholding information, we trust each other.

What does your research on the historical approval / denials for K-1s for this consulate tell?

Maybe this in one that is very suspicious of K-1s but approves CR-1 (already married)?

If there was truly nothing suspect with your evidence, then maybe it is just a consulate-specific thing.

One problem you will have moving forward is that this denial reason will be in their computer banks and you will have to cross this brdge again in any future visa application; just getting married alone may not be enough. Sri for your pain; can you go live over there?

[SSSSS 13]

What does your research on the historical approval / denials for K-1s for this consulate tell?

Maybe this in one that is very suspicious of K-1s but approves CR-1 (already married)?

If there was truly nothing suspect with your evidence, then maybe it is just a consulate-specific thing.

One problem you will have moving forward is that this denial reason will be in their computer banks and you will have to cross this brdge again in any future visa application; just getting married alone may not be enough. Sri for your pain; can you go live over there?

no i can't go live over there. i did not move to USA, to go back to Armenia. There is no life there, no future, especially for those who lived in America most of their lives. I can only go there for a few months to wait it out with my fiance, but no more. I love USA, this is my home. Armenia was never my home.

The petition will be sent to the USCIS via NVC with adiplomatic pouch. It might take up to 8 weeks because mine took that long. And afterthat there was another 2 weeks to get to the USCIS. So roughly it might take8-10 week to get to the USCIS. However, your petition validity date has a bigfactor on the review at the USCIS. USCIS will keep it until the validation expiresand after that will send you a letter saying “USCIS will no longer review yourpetition due to the expiration; so that you can file another petition with therequired amount.” My advice, find out why the petition denied and get ready tofile another K-1 or Spousal. But find out why you are dined. Best way let yourSenator involved. I was in this situation and now my fiancée is interviewedagain.

Good Luck

Thank you very much for the information. It is very useful

[baron555 934]

no i can't go live over there. i did not move to USA, to go back to Armenia. There is no life there, no future, especially for those who lived in America most of their lives.

ok guys, here is the story. We met 6 years ago in Armenia, kept in touch. 4 years ago i went back and we started dating. During these 4 years we both graduated colleges, he went to army (required by law, otherwise forget about USA or any place else), we grew up a little, i became a citizen and bluh bluh. I went to Armenia in 2007, 2008, summer 2010, april 2011.

I pasted the second snippet above from one of your previous posts. I would just venture to guess that the issue is that you are from Armenia and have just very recently become a USC.....did this happen during your 4 years of relationshp?........if so I can see how a consular officer can think that this might be an "arrangement" just to have him immigrate here. As you have said in your own words, "there is no life there, no future". This is a sad situation but I can see how that can weigh very heavily in any COs decisions at this consulate.

You have been given guidance on where your petition will go to next and you should intercept it and provide whatever statements and proofs you need to try to have it returned. If you can find an immigration lawyer who is familiar with this region of the globe, then that MAY help. Your senator's office should be contacted.

If this is unsuccessful, then take a hard look at your evidence and see what other you have or need to generate in the future to help tell the story of a real relationship. Good Luck, I truly mean that.