Saudis sound warning on blocking Palestinian statehood

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I only see 120...but that is a number from this spring.

I read that somewhere in one of the posted articles. 120 wouldn't be close enough to make the effort, and the Saudi's wouldn't risk angering the US if it wasn't more likely than not to pass the General Assembly.

[^_^ 5,021]

Even if the Arabic governments in the ME get precisely what they want and Israel ceases to exist and every Jew in the ME is either dead or exiled in the West, the United States will continue to have an interest in containing Iran. So the Saudis can act as bratty as they wish, Uncle Sam is never going to leave them by the wayside.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Even if the Arabic governments in the ME get precisely what they want and Israel ceases to exist and every Jew in the ME is either dead or exiled in the West, the United States will continue to have an interest in containing Iran. So the Saudis can act as bratty as they wish, Uncle Sam is never going to leave them by the wayside.

At least until the Saudis run out of oil.

[^_^ 5,021]

At least until the Saudis run out of oil.

Not in your or my lifetime.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Not in your or my lifetime.

If the Israelis could figure out how to run a Hummer on manna, then they might have a little more push in the General Assembly.

[Dan and Judy 614]

I think if there are more revolutionary rumblings in Saudi Arabia the Israelis may feel compelled to go in to stabilize the situation

[mawilson 2,133]

Not in your or my lifetime.

Seriously? They don't have THAT much.

[^_^ 5,021]

Seriously? They don't have THAT much.

So you foresee a reversion to long-term historical mean in Saudi's near-term economic future?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Your uninformed opinion is rather at odds with the IDF's official assessment:

That chart shows that the IDF cleaning house in Gaza was a good thing.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That chart shows that the IDF cleaning house in Gaza was a good thing.

I thought you didn't care, one way or the other...

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I thought you didn't care, one way or the other...

Because I'm sick and fkng tired of seeing these threads on here. I figure if I give them enough ####### they just might take a break. I don't trust either the Jews or the Arabs. Is that racial? Who knows...is it honest..you betcha. Does history prove me correct? You bet it does.

The Jews put spies in the US and steal every military secret they can get their hands on. Then you have the Arabs who are living the 6th century who don't have a problem sticking a bomb in a plane full of people while trying to kill anyone they disagree with like that Danish cartoonist, yet they suck on European welfare like a calf on the #######.

And if anyone wants to disagree with this...fine but I'l post so many links on here that it will take two post to fit all of them.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Because I'm sick and fkng tired of seeing these threads on here. I figure if I give them enough ####### they just might take a break. I don't trust either the Jews or the Arabs. Is that racial? Who knows...is it honest..you betcha. Does history prove me correct? You bet it does.

The Jews put spies in the US and steal every military secret they can get their hands on. Then you have the Arabs who are living the 6th century who don't have a problem sticking a bomb in a plane full of people while trying to kill anyone they disagree with like that Danish cartoonist, yet they suck on European welfare like a calf on the #######.

And if anyone wants to disagree with this...fine but I'l post so many links on here that it will take two post to fit all of them.

You know you love these threads

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You know you love these threads

Well...kinda

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

That chart shows that the IDF cleaning house in Gaza was a good thing.

The chart shows figures for West Bank attacks - it does not include Gaza attacks.

As you can clearly see, there is a marked decrease from 2006 to 2007, and an even greater decrease from 2007 to 2008. As the IDF report states: this was due to the increased security activity of the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority

http://idfspokesperson.com/facts-figures/terror-attacks-in-the-west-bank/

What is not mentioned in the IDF report: beginning in 2006, the United States Security Coordinator under Lt. Gen. Keith Dayton began arming and training the Fatah-controlled PA security forces. (As part of this, the USSC also armed and trained forces under Fatah's strongman in Gaza, Mohammed Dahlan, which launched the failed coup against Hamas after the elections of 2006.)

However, the Cast Lead assault on Gaza was not until late December 2009 - January 2010.

So I don't know how you could conclude that the decreases in attacks in the West Bank from 2006 to 2007 to 2008 and even 2009 are effects of the attack on Gaza that did not even begin until these periods were already over (Israel's assault began late in the evening of December 27, 2009.)

Edited September 17, 2011 by wife_of_mahmoud

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

The chart shows figures for West Bank attacks - it does not include Gaza attacks.

As you can clearly see, there is a marked decrease from 2006 to 2007, and an even greater decrease from 2007 to 2008. As the IDF report states: this was due to the increased security activity of the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority

http://idfspokesperson.com/facts-figures/terror-attacks-in-the-west-bank/

What is not mentioned in the IDF report: beginning in 2006, the United States Security Coordinator under Lt. Gen. Keith Dayton began arming and training the Fatah-controlled PA security forces. (As part of this, the USSC also armed and trained forces under Fatah's strongman in Gaza, Mohammed Dahlan, which launched the failed coup against Hamas after the elections of 2006.)

However, the Cast Lead assault on Gaza was not until late December 2008 - January 2009.

So I don't know how you could conclude that the decreases in attacks in the West Bank from 2006 to 2007 to 2008 are effects of the attack on Gaza that did not even begin until these periods were already over (Israel's assault began late in the evening of December 27, 2008.)

Correction on dates of Cast Lead.