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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/09/08/americans-seek-jobs-canada_n_954357.html

TORONTO, Canada — Usually, you hear stories of people fleeing to America, not the other way around.

But the jittery state of the U.S. economy is driving an increasing number of its citizens to seek better prospects north of the border.

Americans are the latest economic refugees, and they’re heading to Canada.

As he prepares to campaign for re-election, U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to make a speech Thursday night that calls for immediate stimulus spending to create jobs and improve infrastructure.

But those reforms will be difficult to make. Republicans, who control the House of Representatives, have resisted any efforts to boost the economy through additional spending.

As life in the U.S. worsens, prospects in Canada seem all the brighter.

Canadian officials say the number of Americans applying for temporary work visas doubled between 2008 and 2010.

Immigration lawyers in Toronto and the border city of Windsor, right across from job-starved Detroit, say they’re seeing a dramatic growth in clients seeking to come to Canada to work, or even as permanent residents.

So, is this a reversal of fortunes on an historic scale? Has Canada become "el Norte"?

Well, not quite. The number of U.S. citizens working in Canada is, at least by global migration standards, relatively small with some 30,000 at the beginning of last year.

Still, Americans make up the second-largest group of temporary workers in Canada, behind only Filipinos, most of whom work as nannies.

Canada was one of the few to escape the 2008 financial meltdown relatively unscathed, a turn of events largely attributed to Ottawa’s long-standing refusal to deregulate the banking sector.

“I’m looking for a quiet, calm, sane, civilized society to start the next phase of my life,” said Michael, an out-of-work, white-collar professional from Michigan who is seeking a temporary visa to come to Canada.

Like several others interviewed for this article, he did not want his full name used for fear of drawing unwanted scrutiny to his application.

Though he describes himself as both patriotic and a conservative, Michael says he’s lost faith in U.S. leadership — “on both sides of the aisle” — for failing to stem the excesses that led to the collapse of Wall Street, and for the current political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling.

“I’m looking for a country where the first role of the government is to protect its citizens,” he said. “It looks to me like all [of Canada’s] three major political parties seem to have proven that they are much more responsible than our leadership.”

Workers like Michael are drawn to Canada’s lower unemployment rate — 7 percent in July compared to 9.1 in the U.S. — and sustained economic strength in major centers such as Toronto, which alone attracts an estimated 100,000 new arrivals a year.

These include not only people with temporary work visas, or those seeking permanent residency, but also increasing numbers of university students, drawn by highly-ranked Canadian schools where tuition, even at 3 or 4 times the rates for Canadians, is still a fraction of what it costs to attend many colleges in the U.S.

John Cameron’s mother lost her senior position at a bank branch in Maine in 2009 at the same time he was trying to finalize his choices for his freshman year in college.

He had his eye on American universities such as Loyola, University of Maryland, Columbia and Fordham.

His father, thinking about the finances, suggested the University of Toronto. Cameron was reluctant, but now he’s a Canadian convert.

”I really love it,” he said. “[it’s] hands-down one of the best schools in North America.”

Toronto has also become home to a couple in their mid-30s from New York City who both lost their full-time jobs in Manhattan in the wake of the 2008 crash. They now live in Canada on temporary visas.

“It’s important for us to live in a place with a lot of diversity and a good cultural sector,” said the woman, who asked that their names be withheld to avoid compromising their residency status in Canada. She says she was surprised at how quickly and efficiently they were able to qualify for Ontario health care.

Some Canadians who had considered America their adopted home are going back.

Al Brickman recently gave up on the United States after 30 years of running a Canadian-owned construction-supply business in Atlanta, Ga.

“I really did hold out for about two years,” he said, but business had bottomed-out in the economy. Brickman said that his billings, once around $100,000, had dropped on some months by as much as 95 percent.

Brickman moved home to Toronto to work at his company there, where he has a steady job as a general manager. His American wife and their 11-week-old baby, are now trying to emigrate to join him.

Since he got back, Brickman said he’s been fielding calls from American friends hoping he can get them a job up north, too.

Shawn Shepard, a legal software supervisor who was among hundreds laid off by his Manhattan law firm in 2008, is hoping a Canadian employer will sponsor him.

Shepard, who lives in Jersey City, N.J., is a regular visitor to Canada, with friends in Montreal and Toronto. With 20 years of experience, and, he admitted, “the arrogance of being a U.S. citizen,” he figured it would be a snap.

But now, he’s found himself in the classic migrant dilemma: “In order to get a work visa, you need a job offer. In order to get a job offer, you need a work visa.” And even if he were to interest a prospective employer, a visa would only be issued if the employer can show that no Canadian was qualified for the job.

“The economy up there is doing very well, despite the global slump,” Shepard wistfully told this reporter, a gainfully employed Canadian. “Your politicians didn’t put you in the same mess that ours did.”

I'd welcome you all with open arms, but I'll have run off south of the border by then :alien:

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I'd welcome you all with open arms, but I'll have run off south of the border by then :alien:

be sure to bring timbits :devil:

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Yes, interesting how Canada is not having the same level of money problems as many others right now. And they have much cheaper education and healthcare.

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Yes, interesting how Canada is not having the same level of money problems as many others right now. And they have much cheaper education and healthcare.

And fortunately are paying far less than their equitable share for defense as is most of the rest of the world.............. courtesy of US taxpayers.

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And fortunately are paying far less than their equitable share for defense as is most of the rest of the world.............. courtesy of US taxpayers.

And who put the gun to the head of the US taxpayer, forcing him/her to subsidize the defense needs of the entire free world?

Not the Canadians or the French. Think defense contractors and their whores in Congress.

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So what slash.................... doesn't change the fact that quite a number of countries can tout their wonderful social welfare programs which could not exist without guns pointed at the heads of US taxpayers.

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So what slash.................... doesn't change the fact that quite a number of countries can tout their wonderful social welfare programs which could not exist without guns pointed at the heads of US taxpayers.

Your type only minds waste when it doesn't make defense contractors rich.

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And fortunately are paying far less than their equitable share for defense as is most of the rest of the world.............. courtesy of US taxpayers.

Yes, US taxpayers are already paying a lot of taxes considering they don't have the social benefits that other countries have.

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Yes, US taxpayers are already paying a lot of taxes considering they don't have the social benefits that other countries have.

If you want to reap the benefits of US taxpayer largesse, go for for a defense contractor.

That is what the Founding Fathers would have wanted.

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Yes, interesting how Canada is not having the same level of money problems as many others right now. And they have much cheaper education and healthcare.

"Canada was one of the few to escape the 2008 financial meltdown relatively unscathed, a turn of events largely attributed to Ottawa’s long-standing refusal to deregulate the banking sector."

This actually made me quite proud

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Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
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Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


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Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


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Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
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And fortunately are paying far less than their equitable share for defense as is most of the rest of the world.............. courtesy of US taxpayers.

Our constitution doesn't call for a standing army. It clearly states congress may raise an army and that no appropriations may go longer than two years. It also addresses naval power, which makes sense to protect shipping lanes for......Commerce.

Furthermore the Monroe Doctrine says USA would seek to protect those in our Hemisphere, at the time it was written was so that the Latin American states breaking free didn't come under British control. That being said Canada is in our Hemisphere, thus the reason we may be paying for their defense.

 

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Furthermore the Monroe Doctrine says USA would seek to protect those in our Hemisphere, at the time it was written was so that the Latin American states breaking free didn't come under British control. That being said Canada is in our Hemisphere, thus the reason we may be paying for their defense.

Two questions.

One - Is the Monroe Doctrine part of our Constitution or has it ever been legislated into law by the elected representatives of the American people?

Two - what the fukc?

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Two questions.

One - Is the Monroe Doctrine part of our Constitution or has it ever been legislated into law by the elected representatives of the American people?

Two - what the fukc?

No it's not, but it's been invoked by President's from both sides of the aisle. Teddy Roosevelt, Kennedy during the Cuban crisis, Ronald Reagan invoked it too. And I didn't state whether I agreed with it or not, just pointing out historical facts. We don't have to have a standing army and the Monroe doctrine was written with the intent that we would protect those in our hemisphere.

2? Not sure what you're asking there...

 

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That being said Canada is in our Hemisphere, thus the reason we may be paying for their defense.

China, Russia and Pakistan are also in our Hemisphere (the Northern Hemisphere). Should we pay for their defense too?

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