Babies Distinguish Pain from Touch at 35-37 Weeks, Research Finds

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No Simpson, it's about significant birth defects.

[_Simpson_ 250]

No Simpson, it's about significant birth defects.

Were talking about when you tell a woman no she cant have a abortion.

Gotta go

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Are we? I think what you don't get is that it's not for me to tell any woman when they can't have an abortion.

These are personal decisions for individuals made within a framework of law. The law already specifies the limited circumstances under which late term abortions may be sought - birth defects or if continuing the pregnancy is harmful to the woman's health. That's just common sense.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Good. It shouldn't be just about a woman's right to choose.

Women shouldn't have any right to choose. All those eggs are little people just waiting to come out. It is a womans duty to free as many as possible. Once a woman is fertile she should get pregnant as often as possible

[slim 1,530]

This is wonderful research for debunking all those "a baby feels it" anti-abortion folks. If felt pain is the standard, obviously it's acceptable to abort all the way up until the end.

Women shouldn't have any right to choose. All those eggs are little people just waiting to come out. It is a womans duty to free as many as possible. Once a woman is fertile she should get pregnant as often as possible

So they should stop having periods then too?

[Dan and Judy 614]

So they should stop having periods then too?

How would you get your red wings if they didn't have periods?

Edited September 12, 2011 by Dan and Judy

[slim 1,530]

How would you get your red wings if they didn't have periods?

I don't have my red wings.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Are we? I think what you don't get is that it's not for me to tell any woman when they can't have an abortion.

In the end thats exactly what you are doing. You're not answering the question though, what about this stage of the pregnancy makes you think its ok to tell a woman she has to have the child if its decided that her health will be ok and there is no danger of birth defects? Is it the moral issue of pain or is it something else?

These are personal decisions for individuals made within a framework of law. The law already specifies the limited circumstances under which late term abortions may be sought - birth defects or if continuing the pregnancy is harmful to the woman's health. That's just common sense.

A lot of pro-lifers agree that if the woman's life is in danger its a option. As far as birth defects go it all depends.

Women shouldn't have any right to choose. All those eggs are little people just waiting to come out. It is a womans duty to free as many as possible. Once a woman is fertile she should get pregnant as often as possible

Were talking late term abortion here but good luck on the trolling.

Edited September 12, 2011 by _Simpson_

[AmyWrites 593]

We should forbid porn because causing men to masturbate causes them to have one less child. It's all about overpopulating our resource-lacking world, right? Because that baby can be the next Einstein, instead of, like probability indicates, one more forgotten useless chump?

/s, about the first sentence

IMO even pro-choice people aren't so sure when it comes to late term abortion.

[Dan and Judy 614]

In the end thats exactly what you are doing. You're not answering the question though, what about this stage of the pregnancy makes you think its ok to tell a woman she has to have the child if its decided that her health will be ok and there is no danger of birth defects? Is it the moral issue of pain or is it something else?

A lot of pro-lifers agree that if the woman's life is in danger its a option. As far as birth defects go it all depends.

Were talking late term abortion here but good luck on the trolling.

So you're just trying to establish the point in a late term pregnancy where it is no longer ok to kill the baby?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In the end thats exactly what you are doing. You're not answering the question though, what about this stage of the pregnancy makes you think its ok to tell a woman she has to have the child if its decided that her health will be ok and there is no danger of birth defects? Is it the moral issue of pain or is it something else?

As I said, I'm not telling a woman anything. It's not up to me - it's the woman's right, enshrined by the what the law dictates.

Laws on this issue generally dictate that late term abortion ought to be highly restricted - except in cases of extreme birth defect or where the pregnancy poses a risk to the woman's life. That seems pretty reasonable to me.

Getting caught up in how you feel about that is where people end up confused. You think that my position on the issue requires me to dictate what women can or can't do with their own bodies.

I believe women should have the right to choose, it's not my business to agonise over the decisions of individuals. It's not your business either...

[Dan and Judy 614]

We should forbid porn because causing men to masturbate causes them to have one less child.

Let's not get all extreme now , Porn serves a very useful purpose towards procreation.

It is possible to" have your cake and eat it too"

The proper procedure is to carefully catch all the sperm in a little medicine bottle ( the kind pills come in)

Then insert a popscicle stick and freeze immediately,

kind of like home made popscicles

If you didn't fill the bottle on the first shot you can always take it out of the freezer and "top it off"

however you must be carefull not to let the sperm that is already frozen thaw out. So get it back in the freezer as soon as possible.

It will last indefinately as long as there is not a power outage.

Now some days when a woman is not pregnant, her man may want to take a day off.

So the woman would elevate her bottom and insert a popesicle.

after it has melted, she removes the stick which can be washed and used again

So there is no need to go outlawing pornography

[The_Dude 1,142]

This is wonderful research for debunking all those "a baby feels it" anti-abortion folks. If felt pain is the standard, obviously it's acceptable to abort all the way up until the end.

We already do that for a subset of society.

[Ban Hammer 13,498]

I don't have my red wings.

noob!

[slim 1,530]

You guys with your red wings are absolutely horrible.

I bet you've "tasted your own" as well.