Jump to content

41 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Posted
http://news.yahoo.com/mich-governor-signs-48-month-welfare-limit-231915012.html

By KATHY BARKS HOFFMAN - Associated Press | AP – 3 hrs ago

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Gov. Rick Snyder on Tuesday signed into law a stricter, four-year lifetime limit on cash welfare benefits, prompting advocates for the poor to warn that tens of thousands of residents will find themselves without cash assistance on Oct. 1.

Michigan's first-year Republican chief executive said the state will offer exemptions to the limit for those with a disability who can't work, those who care for a disabled spouse or child and those who are 65 or older and don't qualify for Social Security benefits or receive very low benefits.

Some recipients who are the victims of domestic violence also may be temporarily exempted.

"We are returning cash assistance to its original intent as a transitional program to help families while they work toward self-sufficiency," Snyder said in a statement. He noted that the state still will help the poor by offering food stamps, health care coverage through Medicaid, child care and emergency services.

Then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat, signed a bill that created a four-year limit starting in 2007. But that law exempted many welfare recipients, including those whose caseworkers said they were making progress toward finding employment.

The 2010 election of Snyder and the simultaneous Republican takeover of the Michigan House gave the GOP a free hand to set its own course on public assistance.

The change gives Michigan the Midwest's toughest welfare time limit, according to a survey by The Detroit News. It said there are five-year limits in Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Ohio and Wisconsin. Indiana has a two-year limit for adults — but none for children.

Gilda Jacobs of the Michigan League for Human Services said she expects about 41,000 people to lose their cash assistance payments on Oct. 1 when the state's new budget year begins. That includes 29,700 children, according to the Michigan Department of Human Services.

"We're very, very concerned," Jacobs said. "As the days go by, new people will be meeting the 48-month limit. ... More will be falling off that cliff."

The new law will reduce the number of children and adults receiving cash assistance by nearly a fifth, from more than 221,000 to around 180,000. Enforcing a four-year limit will save the state more than $60 million annually, according to a House Fiscal Agency analysis.

Jacobs said it's hard to see how 11,000 adults will find a job when Michigan's July unemployment rate was 10.9 percent, tied with South Carolina for third-highest in the nation.

"We still have to preserve a safety net for people who, through no fault of their own, can't find a job," she said, noting that most cash assistance goes to help poor residents pay their rent. "There's obviously a lot of anxiety out there. Folks aren't sure exactly what this means to them."

State officials say they're working with nonprofit organizations to direct welfare recipients to other services and provide a "soft landing" as they lose benefits. Recipients will be connected with other resources, given housing and job placement assistance for up to three months beyond October and mentored by trained job navigators.

"Michigan continues to face financial challenges, and the fiscal reality is that we cannot afford to provide lifetime cash assistance to recipients who are able to work," Health and Human Services director Maura Corrigan said in a statement. "Enforcing lifetime limits for cash assistance ensures that available funds are targeted toward those recipients who need a helping hand while they find employment."

Michigan ranked 38th in child poverty for 2009, defined as income below $21,756 for a family of two adults and two children. About 23 percent of Michigan's children lived in poverty in 2009, compared with 20 percent nationally. In 2000, only 14 percent of Michigan children lived in poverty. The average age of a child in a family receiving cash assistance is around 7 years old.

Snyder, a Republican, has said reducing the number of children living in poverty is a priority of his administration.

The Michigan Catholic Conference has objected to the four-year limit. The conference said the effect will be felt for years by society and by children who lose services.

sigbet.jpg

"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

The mother of Poverty is "Bad choices".

Dropping out of school'

getting a police record

Getting knocked-up early

Drugs / alcohol as a way of life.

As long as the Government suspends reality for these bad choices, we will have them with us in abundance.

I would prefer a "withering away" of benefits. After a reasonable period the payment is decreased each month, this I think would have a ratcheting effect towards action.

type2homophobia_zpsf8eddc83.jpg




"Those people who will not be governed by God


will be ruled by tyrants."



William Penn

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

Good job, Michigan!

Русский форум член.

Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

Filed: Other Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted (edited)

The mother of Poverty is "Bad choices".Dropping out of school'

getting a police record

Getting knocked-up early

Drugs / alcohol as a way of life.

As long as the Government suspends reality for these bad choices, we will have them with us in abundance.

I would prefer a "withering away" of benefits. After a reasonable period the payment is decreased each month, this I think would have a ratcheting effect towards action.

Criminals are the biggest black hole of money in this country.

Edited by Master Baiter
Posted

Criminals are the biggest black hole of money in this country.

Agreed that taking welfare money (tax payer money) from the government in the form of welfare when one is able to work is a criminal offense.

sigbet.jpg

"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

I don't understand why we pay armed people to patrol the streets. That's a HUGE cost right there that we could get rid of - especially if we eliminated welfare too!

Русский форум член.

Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

Filed: Other Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

Agreed that taking welfare money (tax payer money) from the government in the form of welfare when one is able to work is a criminal offense.

I'm not sure if you just poorly worded that, or if you actually mean that one able to wrok, but doesn't is a criminal offense. I know someone who is collecting unemployment, but is able to work. She just has not been able to find a job in her field, or any field for a rate that is acceptable to her.

Quite possible which makes one question: What are we doing subsidizing it?

Because it is inhuman and depraved to just shoot all criminals in the head.

I don't understand why we pay armed people to patrol the streets. That's a HUGE cost right there that we could get rid of - especially if we eliminated welfare too!

It's so that they can keep the un-american criminals in line. To protect the real americans, those that pay taxes and respect the laws of this country.

Posted

I don't understand why we pay armed people to patrol the streets. That's a HUGE cost right there that we could get rid of - especially if we eliminated welfare too!

While were at it we could fix the broken system that's set up to keep dead beats in a civil job aka court system and being paid on the tax payers dime.

sigbet.jpg

"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

Filed: Other Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

While were at it we could fix the broken system that's set up to keep dead beats in a civil job aka court system and being paid on the tax payers dime.

I think a greater concern are the criminals who plague this system. We really should increase the penalties for domestic violence in this country. It's deplorable that we allow these scumbags who beat their wives/girlfriends to still roam the streets.

Posted

I think a greater concern are the criminals who plague this system. We really should increase the penalties for domestic violence in this country. It's deplorable that we allow these scumbags who beat their wives/girlfriends to still roam the streets.

What's really deplorable is this broken criminal justice system that keeps a bunch of dead beats in the work force. The same ones who couldn't cut it in the private sector for the fact they couldn't handle an honest days work. You know the ones I'm talking about don't you? The ones that wear those cheesy polyester suits...the same peeps that were picked on at school and didn't get a date for the prom.

sigbet.jpg

"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

Filed: Other Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

What's really deplorable is this broken criminal justice system that keeps a bunch of dead beats in the work force. The same ones who couldn't cut it in the private sector for the fact they couldn't handle an honest days work. You know the ones I'm talking about don't you? The ones that wear those cheesy polyester suits...the same peeps that were picked on at school and didn't get a date for the prom.

You really aren't good at this trolling thing Kip. 0/10, try harder next time.

I know our law enforcement isn't perfect, and the court system is even more screwed up, but at the end of the day, it is the criminals who are the scourge of society, regardless of what you may think.

Posted

You really aren't good at this trolling thing Kip. 0/10, try harder next time.

I know our law enforcement isn't perfect, and the court system is even more screwed up, but at the end of the day, it is the criminals who are the scourge of society, regardless of what you may think.

Or better yet, instead of trolling my thread you could always start your own.

And who says who is criminals? The court system? The same useless civil servants who tell everyone to take the deal?

sigbet.jpg

"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

I think a greater concern are the criminals who plague this system. We really should increase the penalties for domestic violence in this country. It's deplorable that we allow these scumbags who beat their wives/girlfriends to still roam the streets.

First one must define "domestic abuse".... as it is now, nearly anything puts a man (and sometimes women) into the category you mentioned.

In fact I think within this new legislation there is a loop-hole for "victims of domestic violence" .... which no doubt will wind some poor saps "in the system" so the "victim" can keep on collecting long past the 48 month period.

type2homophobia_zpsf8eddc83.jpg




"Those people who will not be governed by God


will be ruled by tyrants."



William Penn

 
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...