UN Report on Gaza Flotilla

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Doubtful.

[Ban Hammer 13,344]

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You gotta love these threads. On one side you have the Jews using US tax payer dollars taking Arab land, and on the other side you have the Arabs who would blow the Jews to kingdom come and back with the first chance they get.

It's a Mexican stand off.

Edited September 6, 2011 by Why_Me

[Dan and Judy 614]

Please quote him anyway - this thread could use some representation from a Brit with experience and insight into the Middle East.

"I'd walk a mile for a camel"

T. E. Lawrence

[Dan and Judy 614]

The Arab was by nature continent; and the use of universal marriage had nearly abolished irregular courses in his tribes. The public women of the rare settlements we encountered in our months of wandering would have been nothing to our numbers, even had their raddled meat been palatable to a man of healthy parts. In horror of such sordid commerce our youths began indifferently to slake one another's few needs in their own clean bodies — a cold convenience that, by comparison, seemed sexless and even pure. Later, some began to justify this sterile process, and swore that friends quivering together in the yielding sand with intimate hot limbs in supreme embrace, found there hidden in the darkness a sensual co-efficient of the mental passion which was welding our souls and spirits in one flaming effort. Several, thirsting to punish appetites they could not wholly prevent, took a savage pride in degrading the body, and offered themself fiercely in any habit which promised physical pain or filth.

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T. E. Lawrence http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The Arab was by nature continent; and the use of universal marriage had nearly abolished irregular courses in his tribes. The public women of the rare settlements we encountered in our months of wandering would have been nothing to our numbers, even had their raddled meat been palatable to a man of healthy parts. In horror of such sordid commerce our youths began indifferently to slake one another's few needs in their own clean bodies — a cold convenience that, by comparison, seemed sexless and even pure. Later, some began to justify this sterile process, and swore that friends quivering together in the yielding sand with intimate hot limbs in supreme embrace, found there hidden in the darkness a sensual co-efficient of the mental passion which was welding our souls and spirits in one flaming effort. Several, thirsting to punish appetites they could not wholly prevent, took a savage pride in degrading the body, and offered themself fiercely in any habit which promised physical pain or filth.

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T. E. Lawrence http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

By reading that you know ol T. E. got himself some brown suga.

[Dan and Judy 614]

You have a problem with reciprocity?

"Reciprocity is out of the Question"

T. E. Lawrence.............Replying to that hungry look in his camels eyes

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Turkey confirms 'total suspension' of defense industry ties with Israel

Turkish PM's remarks follow top Israeli official's indication that ties are still in effect, and a day after BOI chief Fischer warned of the potential negative effect Israel's economy could suffer as a result of trade rift with Ankara.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday that Turkey was "totally suspending" defense industry ties with Israel, after downgrading diplomatic relations with the Jewish state.

"Trade ties, military ties, regarding defense industry ties, we are completely suspending them. This process will be followed by different measures," Erdogan told reporters in Ankara.

"The Eastern Mediterranean is not a strange place to us. Aksaz and Iskenderun, these places have the power and opportunity to provide escorts," Erdogan told reporters referring to two Turkish naval bases. "Of course our ships will be seen much more frequently in those waters."

Erdogan's confirmation came just days after Ankara launched a series of penalizing measures, including the severing of military ties, against Israel over the latter's refusal to apologize for its deadly raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla in 2010.

Earlier Tuesday, top Israeli defense official Amos Gilad indicated that military ties with Turkey were in fact still in effect, despite Turkish declarations, saying that the "Israel's military attaché was continuing his work."

Earlier this week, Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer warned against the economic consequences of a prolonged trade rift with Turkey, saying that that the Turkish economy far surpasses Israel's and is growing extremely fast.

"[The] Turkish economy is growing at an exceptional rate," said Fischer. "They have great entrepreneurs and a European trained labor force. Turkey will be a big market in the region and a major exporter. The consequences of not having trading relations with Turkey will be expensive."

"Inter-regional trade in the Middle East is small, and it will stay small even if it opens up," said Fischer. "Our inter-regional trade does not amount to very much at the moment, but it would be of benefit if it grew."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkey-confirms-total-suspension-of-defense-industry-ties-with-israel-1.382874

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"Inter-regional trade in the Middle East is small, and it will stay small even if it opens up," said Fischer. "Our inter-regional trade does not amount to very much at the moment, but it would be of benefit if it grew."

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

"Inter-regional trade in the Middle East is small, and it will stay small even if it opens up," said Fischer. "Our inter-regional trade does not amount to very much at the moment, but it would be of benefit if it grew."

Yes, that's what the Bank of Israel official said - that Israel would benefit from increased inter-regional trade. Did you want to comment on it ?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

The Arab was by nature continent; and the use of universal marriage had nearly abolished irregular courses in his tribes. The public women of the rare settlements we encountered in our months of wandering would have been nothing to our numbers, even had their raddled meat been palatable to a man of healthy parts. In horror of such sordid commerce our youths began indifferently to slake one another's few needs in their own clean bodies — a cold convenience that, by comparison, seemed sexless and even pure. Later, some began to justify this sterile process, and swore that friends quivering together in the yielding sand with intimate hot limbs in supreme embrace, found there hidden in the darkness a sensual co-efficient of the mental passion which was welding our souls and spirits in one flaming effort. Several, thirsting to punish appetites they could not wholly prevent, took a savage pride in degrading the body, and offered themself fiercely in any habit which promised physical pain or filth.

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T. E. Lawrence http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence

He's talking about British officers having homosexual relations with the British soldiers under their command, since there was nothing else "available" (he says the Arabs had a custom of "everybody get married" and thus did not engage in "irregular courses.")

I can't help but get a little giggle about the "one flaming effort" line...