Does violate school bus stop affects Removing Condition?

[hieumin 2]

Does violate school bus stop in Texas affects Removing Condition?

Hieu N

[Inky 1,111]

What is " violate school bus stop " ?

[Harsh_77 718]

What are you talking about?

Are you talking about a speeding ticket thru the school zone?

[hieumin 2]

Does violate school bus stop in Texas affects Removing Condition? Not stopping a school buswhile this bus is stopped dropping kids.

Hieu N

[Inky 1,111]

Did you get caught and ticketed?

[hieumin 2]

My wife passed a stopped school bus and got ticket this morning and the fine is $420 (looked up online). Will sign up for driving safety class and will wait for the judge decision. Online government site says you are not eligible for driving safety class if you violate passing a school bus fine.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

My wife passed a stopped school bus and got ticket this morning and the fine is $420 (looked up online). Will sign up for driving safety class and will wait for the judge decision. Online government site says you are not eligible for driving safety class if you violate passing a school bus fine.

I won't have any impact on her ROC or even naturalization as it's a traffic violation not a criminal violation.

BTW, if the violation is not eligible for the safety class then you're wasting time & money with the class and court appearance (most courts add court fees to the ticket if you waste their time when you're clearly guilty of the violation. Basically you're turning a $420 ticket into over $500 ticket for no benefit.

On a side-note: As someone whose kids ride school buses most days I really hope you wife now understands that kids' safety is more important that saving a little time.

Edited September 1, 2011 by Bob 4 Anna

[aravis227 1]

On a side-note: As someone whose kids ride school buses most days I really hope you wife now understands that kids' safety is more important that saving a little time.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Passing a school bus with the red lights flashing is a big hitter and thus very expensive, for a reason. However, while this has to be mentioned on part 16 of the N-400, it has no adverse effect on the naturalization process. Uncle Sam wants Americans-to-be to have a good moral character, but they don't have to be perfect. Now if your wife had run over a child that had exited the school bus, it would be a deal breaker.

[ScottThuy 140]

I would spend the $ on an atty for that issue... the way courts are so backed up today it usually pays off to have an atty fight it and get it thrown out...

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

A traffic ticket? No.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I would spend the $ on an atty for that issue... the way courts are so backed up today it usually pays off to have an atty fight it and get it thrown out...

Why? It's a traffic ticket, what's there to fight she passed a stopped bus with it's lights & stop sign out. It will cost more to retain a lawyer & fight it then to just pay it and move along. There's now criminal charge so what's the upside of spending more money?

[VanessaTony 3,567]

On a side-note: As someone whose kids ride school buses most days I really hope you wife now understands that kids' safety is more important that saving a little time.

Just a comment here, while I also know stopping for a school bus is mandatory (just like stopping for a tram or regular bus in Aus) I've never been in a location where I can't continue if the bus is on the opposite side of the road, or where I can't go AROUND the bus by hopping into the next lane. For instance, the trams occasionally travel on 2 lane roads. We drive on the left so the tram would be in the middle of the road or in the right lane. You are NOT allowed to go into the left lane and drive past a stopped tram with it's little "stop" out (almost did once 'cause I didn't see it.. eep!). School buses open with their doors to the street and kids are expected to obey the laws of the road (stay on the side of the road until the bus is gone so you can look for traffic. Do NOT walk in front of the bus. Cross at the pedestrian crossings) but you still drive at 20kms in a school zone.

My natural instinct is to keep going but cross into the farthest lane and that's what I thought you did until Tony told me more about it. Even the driver learning book didn't explain that if it's in the opposite lane you need to stop as well. That makes no sense to me as 1. people should be teaching their kids not to run out into the road and 2. There should be a safety monitor there who gets out first like a lollipop lady with her "stop" stick to make sure people stop while the kids cross.

So I completely understand how she could have got this fine.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Why? It's a traffic ticket, what's there to fight she passed a stopped bus with it's lights & stop sign out. It will cost more to retain a lawyer & fight it then to just pay it and move along. There's now criminal charge so what's the upside of spending more money?

I believe I could fight and win simply by showing the driving learner book doesn't mention anything about stopping if it's the other side of the road (it's just implied). That's assuming that's what she did. She could also not have ever seen what they look like properly stopped, and she could have just treated it like a regular bus. If it's a first offence it MIGHT be worth fighting but chances of winning depend on what mood the judges are in.

[hihello 4]

I friend of mine is school bus driver in new york and once he told me that he sees so many stupid people passing by him when his red flashng lights are on, specially in Manhattan.

If cops are there you are done otherwise consider yourself extremely fortunate cuz its a bad bad traffic violation.

Luckily in your case its a traffic violation which has nothing to do with ROC or Citizenship Process.