Five new Perry-approved laws going into effect in Texas

[Ban Hammer 13,726]

Well, If you aren't fit enough to hunt the animal, then don't bother.

you can go in the brush after them if you'd like. there's rattlers in there too. it would be a tossup as to which you'd find first - a pissed off rattler or a charging hog.

[SMR 368]

Right, but that is not the rationale for the law. It is for rich and lazy people. Quite a statement about Tejas I think.

I still think the key issue is that this law doesn't somehow enable or encourage anything. It just lets people do it if they wanted to. You may have all kinds of opinions about the people that choose to hunt in a helicopter or the quality of the experience it provides, but why does that give you the right to interfere? They aren't hurting you or society in general. Let them do it.

[BishopM 114]

I never needed a helicopter to go "hawgging". A case of Keystone Ice 5.9%, and a box of condemns and I was good to go.

Brother Why - just what are you planning to do to those dead hawgs!

[The_Dude 1,142]

I still think the key issue is that this law doesn't somehow enable or encourage anything. It just lets people do it if they wanted to. You may have all kinds of opinions about the people that choose to hunt in a helicopter or the quality of the experience it provides, but why does that give you the right to interfere? They aren't hurting you or society in general. Let them do it.

My point is, that is not hunting. If you have to use a helicopter or airplane to hunt, you are either too lazy, or too unfit to hunt. If that is the case, then call it what it is, Killing animals in a helicopter because you are too fat or lazy to actually hunt.

[SMR 368]

My point is, that is not hunting. If you have to use a helicopter or airplane to hunt, you are either too lazy, or too unfit to hunt. If that is the case, then call it what it is, Killing animals in a helicopter because you are too fat or lazy to actually hunt.

Fine. But that's an issue of semantics, not law.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Fine. But that's an issue of semantics, not law.

It isn't when semantics are codified to validate the lazy. The same goal could be accomplished by simply opening the season up year round.

[Danno 1,228]

My point is, that is not hunting. If you have to use a helicopter or airplane to hunt, you are either too lazy, or too unfit to hunt. If that is the case, then call it what it is, Killing animals in a helicopter because you are too fat or lazy to actually hunt.

Are you still working from the angle that this is solely a SPORTING event?

Did you not read the overpopulation numbers?

When you have a huge volume of any given animal, it's not a "sport" to locate and kill them.

MArksmanship from a aircraft at a moving target on the ground is somewhat of a sport its self... but it's not hunting in the classic sense.

Also, get off the "lazy" shtick, it's 2011, most hunters are puttering around on 4-wheelers anyway.

[natty bumppo 297]

It isn't when semantics are codified to validate the lazy. The same goal could be accomplished by simply opening the season up year round.

when your local rat population gets out of control ... do you stalk and hunt with a bow & arrow? slingshot? rifle?

or do you set traps (hunting over bait) ?

if you are using "unsportsmanlike " methods to kill the rodents ... you must be fat and lazy too ...

[The_Dude 1,142]

when your local rat population gets out of control ... do you stalk and hunt with a bow & arrow? slingshot? rifle?

or do you set traps (hunting over bait) ?

if you are using "unsportsmanlike " methods to kill the rodents ... you must be fat and lazy too ...

Strawman argument Natty, try to stay on topic. People who shoot animals from a helicopter are not hunting, they are lazy.

[natty bumppo 297]

Strawman argument Natty, try to stay on topic. People who shoot animals from a helicopter are not hunting, they are lazy.

this hunting is really a rodent control method to thin the feral hog herds ... just like baiting rats (only getting the hawgs they use bigger tools)

in tx:

feral hogs are not classified as game animals, yet a hunting license is required to hunt them.

various "hunting" techniques used which include stand hunting over a baited area, stalking or still hunting over baited areas and areas indicating recent hog activity, such as wallows, corn or milo often soaked in water and allowed to sour and then buried underground is good bait.

night hunting with a spotlight is often used (need to notify the local game warden beforehand. (protect yourself from being accused of jacklighting deer)

hunting with well-trained dogs

helos were already legal for tx residents to shoot feral hogs on their own land. (where was your outrage for this existing pre sept 1, 2011 law)

given the information above (from the tpwd) you should also be screaming foul about the already approved and accepted methods of keeping the hawg herd thin.

where was your outrage? or is this a "selective" thing?

[The_Dude 1,142]

this hunting is really a rodent control method to thin the feral hog herds ... just like baiting rats (only getting the hawgs they use bigger tools)

in tx:

feral hogs are not classified as game animals, yet a hunting license is required to hunt them.

various "hunting" techniques used which include stand hunting over a baited area, stalking or still hunting over baited areas and areas indicating recent hog activity, such as wallows, corn or milo often soaked in water and allowed to sour and then buried underground is good bait.

night hunting with a spotlight is often used (need to notify the local game warden beforehand. (protect yourself from being accused of jacklighting deer)

hunting with well-trained dogs

helos were already legal for tx residents to shoot feral hogs on their own land. (where was your outrage for this existing pre sept 1, 2011 law)

given the information above (from the tpwd) you should also be screaming foul about the already approved and accepted methods of keeping the hawg herd thin.

where was your outrage? or is this a "selective" thing?

In case you didn't see it the previous dozen times I have said it Natty, People who shot animals from a helicopter/airplane are not hunters, they are lazy.

[natty bumppo 297]

In case you didn't see it the previous dozen times I have said it Natty, People who shot animals from a helicopter/airplane are not hunters, they are lazy.

you do keep repeating yourself (say it often enough and soon people will believe you sort of thing ). where are facts to backup your statement?

it's your opinion .... not mine (and it also appears that of other posters... )

[The_Dude 1,142]

you do keep repeating yourself (say it often enough and soon people will believe you sort of thing ). where are facts to backup your statement?

it's your opinion .... not mine (and it also appears that of other posters... )

I bet you think that feeding deer year round, then setting up a motion sensor spotlight during hunting season is also "hunting".

[SMR 368]

It isn't when semantics are codified to validate the lazy. The same goal could be accomplished by simply opening the season up year round.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't say how this law actually looks on the books. But from a practical standpoint, it's not a law. This is a repeal of a law.

In a world with minimal government intervention, you are allowed to hunt from helicopters. No law is required, only the lack of a law.

[natty bumppo 297]

I bet you think that feeding deer year round, then setting up a motion sensor spotlight during hunting season is also "hunting".

please send your $ to my paypal account .... the number is ...

as if you'd actually honor the bet

what do deer (game animal) have to do with feral hogs (non-game animal)?

(the local farmers could sure use your strawman to help feed their livestock ... )

do you enjoy accusing people of violating fish & wildlife hunting regs?