Ties To Canada?

[khanoa 0]

I recently had my TN Visa rejected and it seems been red flagged. I am no longer working for that employer but need to enter the user as a visitor in order to write an exam. I have proof that I am writing the exam, a letter of termination from the employer, have a return ticket home.

Someone mentioned that I should also show that I have ties to Canada so customs knows I will be returning.

I dont own a house but live with my parents in Canada. What other things can I bring as proof that I live in Canada?

[MissDinaDee 8]

I run into this all the time at the border... 5 years of being in a long distance relationship has made it difficult to travel back and forth for me!

I bring anything and everthing. If you are in school bring documents substantiating that. If you own a car and make payments bring those. If you have an employer currently bring a letter from them (stating your current employment status and when you are expected to return to work) and paystubs. I bring bank statements, any and all bills. Just a copy of one is sufficient.

Hope thise helps! Good luck!!

MrsJ

[khanoa 0]

Do they ask you right away for your ties to Canada ask soon as you try to cross? If so have they accepted all of the mentioned things as evidence of your ties?

I don't own a car, live with my parents in Canada and not currently working...yah I know the good ol trifecta! But I do have a Canadian drivers license, health insurance, bank accounts and a couple of credit cards...I believe you wouldnt be able to get those if you didnt have a permanent address right? Would those work?

I run into this all the time at the border... 5 years of being in a long distance relationship has made it difficult to travel back and forth for me!

I bring anything and everthing. If you are in school bring documents substantiating that. If you own a car and make payments bring those. If you have an employer currently bring a letter from them (stating your current employment status and when you are expected to return to work) and paystubs. I bring bank statements, any and all bills. Just a copy of one is sufficient.

Hope thise helps! Good luck!!

MrsJ

[canadian_wife 1,822]

They might, but it is up to the POE officer and no, you can have those things without an address or permanent residency in Canada.

I was denied entry, it is exponentially more difficult to get into the US after being denied

Good luck

[khanoa 0]

Yes I know it is harder that is why I am posting but I believe every case is different. Why did you get denied if I may ask? Did you try again?

They might, but it is up to the POE officer and no, you can have those things without an address or permanent residency in Canada.

I was denied entry, it is exponentially more difficult to get into the US after being denied

Good luck

[Harsh_77 718]

Do they ask you right away for your ties to Canada ask soon as you try to cross? If so have they accepted all of the mentioned things as evidence of your ties?

I don't own a car, live with my parents in Canada and not currently working...yah I know the good ol trifecta! But I do have a Canadian drivers license, health insurance, bank accounts and a couple of credit cards...I believe you wouldnt be able to get those if you didnt have a permanent address right? Would those work?

What are strong ties hmmmm?

Say CBP officer grants you entry.

CA DL - would you return to CA for your DL?

Health Insurance - would you return to CA for your Health Insurance after your trip?

Bank Accounts - Would you return back for your bank account - could you close them from US?

Credit Card - would be the same would you return home for sake of your CCs?

Strong ties is like property or any other reason for which you would return back to CA after your test, you have been denied the visa in past so that is a red flag anyway for any CBP offier your are just trying to look to gain entry into US on other pretext.

You will need strong ties to show you would not over stay in US if they grant you an entry.

[khanoa 0]

Well how about family ties? I don't own the property but live with my parents who do...does that count for anything?

All of the things you answered are technically possible but in my case I want to show them that I made an effort to demonstrate that I have a connection to Canada...that has to count for something. I guess it also really depends on the CBP officer that day. What happens if I am denied...can I try again the next day?

What are strong ties hmmmm?

Say CBP officer grants you entry.

CA DL - would you return to CA for your DL?

Health Insurance - would you return to CA for your Health Insurance after your trip?

Bank Accounts - Would you return back for your bank account - could you close them from US?

Credit Card - would be the same would you return home for sake of your CCs?

Strong ties is like property or any other reason for which you would return back to CA after your test, you have been denied the visa in past so that is a red flag anyway for any CBP offier your are just trying to look to gain entry into US on other pretext.

You will need strong ties to show you would not over stay in US if they grant you an entry.

[khanoa 0]

Also to answer your question...I would definitely return to CA for my health insurance and the drivers license shows a strong attempt at re-establishing ties since I previously had a US Driver's License and recently switched over to it.

[Sweetcheeksss 91]

I have been denied entry once in the past - the CBP officer would not accept drivers' license, nor provincial health card, nor bank acct stmts as compelling enough proof that I would definitely be returning to Canada.

They actually gave me a "form" letter that had suggestions on what to bring as proof:

1) Lease or house deed

2) Letter from my employer (on the company's stationary) stating how long I had been employed, my position with the company, how much vacay I had accumulated and when I was expected back to work

3) Vehicle title/loan documents, etc

4) School paperwork (if you were enrolled in college) or school paperwork from my son's school (to say when he was expected back to school)

5) Return airline ticket

6) Health insurance for while I was out of Canada and when that expired (around the same date I was leaving the US)

That's all I can think off the top my head for now. All *I* know is that the officers at my home airport (Edmonton) were VERY accustomed to people trying to cross with weaker ties and they (the CBP officers) informed me NOT to keep trying over and over because it could result in me getting "removed" instead of them allowing me to withdrawn my application to enter the US.

Good luck.

[khanoa 0]

Of those things I have a return ticket but its a bus ticket and I can definitely buy some temporary travel insurance for the dates I will be gone.

Do you think something like family ties is something they look at?

I have been denied entry once in the past - the CBP officer would not accept drivers' license, nor provincial health card, nor bank acct stmts as compelling enough proof that I would definitely be returning to Canada.

They actually gave me a "form" letter that had suggestions on what to bring as proof:

1) Lease or house deed

2) Letter from my employer (on the company's stationary) stating how long I had been employed, my position with the company, how much vacay I had accumulated and when I was expected back to work

3) Vehicle title/loan documents, etc

4) School paperwork (if you were enrolled in college) or school paperwork from my son's school (to say when he was expected back to school)

5) Return airline ticket

6) Health insurance for while I was out of Canada and when that expired (around the same date I was leaving the US)

That's all I can think off the top my head for now. All *I* know is that the officers at my home airport (Edmonton) were VERY accustomed to people trying to cross with weaker ties and they (the CBP officers) informed me NOT to keep trying over and over because it could result in me getting "removed" instead of them allowing me to withdrawn my application to enter the US.

Good luck.

[khanoa 0]

Also just wondering if I am allowed entry by the officer will I be issued a I-94 form that I have to give Canadian customs upon my return? I am under the impression I will not but since I have a previous denial maybe that changes things?

Will my return date be the date of my return trip ticket? I was thinking of staying an extra month just to sight see...can that be done?

Thanks.

I have been denied entry once in the past - the CBP officer would not accept drivers' license, nor provincial health card, nor bank acct stmts as compelling enough proof that I would definitely be returning to Canada.

They actually gave me a "form" letter that had suggestions on what to bring as proof:

1) Lease or house deed

2) Letter from my employer (on the company's stationary) stating how long I had been employed, my position with the company, how much vacay I had accumulated and when I was expected back to work

3) Vehicle title/loan documents, etc

4) School paperwork (if you were enrolled in college) or school paperwork from my son's school (to say when he was expected back to school)

5) Return airline ticket

6) Health insurance for while I was out of Canada and when that expired (around the same date I was leaving the US)

That's all I can think off the top my head for now. All *I* know is that the officers at my home airport (Edmonton) were VERY accustomed to people trying to cross with weaker ties and they (the CBP officers) informed me NOT to keep trying over and over because it could result in me getting "removed" instead of them allowing me to withdrawn my application to enter the US.

Good luck.

[Sweetcheeksss 91]

Really, it's up the the officer, I'd say yes, if you've been refused before, you'll probably be "paroled" into the US with an I-94 and yes, that will have to be turned in after your trip to prove you came back.

*If* you were issued one, you'd have to be back by the date they decide on...and I'm pretty sure, if you say "hey I'd like to stay an extra month" they may not be quite so willing to let you cross.

I'd say no about family ties, those aren't considered strong enough to prove you'd be coming back. ALL people that cross into the US are viewed as intending immigrants to the officers and you have to prove to them really strong reasons/ties that you'd come back to Canada. If they already have refused you entry because they suspect you have no strong evidence to prove to them that you have to come back to Canada, I'd say they'll be judging you by a higher threshold than normal.

Edited September 4, 2011 by Sweetcheeksss

[khanoa 0]

Thanks so much.

Just wondering after you were denied were you ever successful in getting back into the States? If so how was your experience...were you issued an I-94 form?

Also if I may ask what was the reason you were denied the first time?

Really, it's up the the officer, I'd say yes, if you've been refused before, you'll probably be "paroled" into the US with an I-94 and yes, that will have to be turned in after your trip to prove you came back.

*If* you were issued one, you'd have to be back by the date they decide on...and I'm pretty sure, if you say "hey I'd like to stay an extra month" they may not be quite so willing to let you cross.

I'd say no about family ties, those aren't considered strong enough to prove you'd be coming back. ALL people that cross into the US are viewed as intending immigrants to the officers and you have to prove to them really strong reasons/ties that you'd come back to Canada. If they already have refused you entry because they suspect you have no strong evidence to prove to them that you have to come back to Canada, I'd say they'll be judging you by a higher threshold than normal.

[Sweetcheeksss 91]

Yes, I am currently living in the US with my family.

I wasn't allowed back into the US for a while, in fact, they advised me to not try for at minimum 6 months and when I did try, to have some of the above documents/proof I previously mentioned. Yes I was issued a I-94 and was allowed into the US for only 2 weeks (which the border guard deemed reasonable amt of time to have off from work).

[khanoa 0]

Oh wow they even determine how long you get to stay...well that makes sense because they have every right to do so.

So I am assuming you are or have been in the US for awhile now? After the 2 weeks you were given how did you get to the point you are at now?