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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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I thought that by "detain" on this question they referred to being in a "detention center". Before inputting what can be potentially a wrong answer I would definitely consult a lawyer. Good luck to you though, and sorry about what happened! Carrying that card is a must, but if you lose your wallet or its stolen the cost to replace it is frightening!

MY Conditions Removal Timeline:

CIS Office: California

2011-05-16: Date Filed

2011-05-17: NOA Date

2011-06-14: Bio. Appt.

2011-09-21: Email confirming approval

2011-09-26: GC Received ツ

MY AOS Timeline:

2008-11-05: Date Filed

2008-11-14: NOA Date

2009-01-26: Bio. Appt.

2009-05-07: Interview Date

2009-05-14: RFE Received

2009-06-03: RFE Returned

2009-07-27: GC Received

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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OK. Am I the only one confused about this? OP states: "Last June i was on the road traveling with my wife from Texas to California. i had to pass by two Border Patrol check points in Texas and in New Mexico". Last time I had was in a Geography Class, a trip from Texas to California does not take you outside the USA. - hence no borders to cross... How can you have a "Border Patrol Check Point" when you are not crossing the Border? Sorry if the question is dumb, but I don't get it....

Samby

Yes, there are numerous internal checkpoints along the states side of the U.S. - Mexico border, of which we were completely unaware; we thought the same thing as you--we weren't going to be crossing any international borders, so why would I need my card? Apparently, we were wrong and naive. Lesson learned.

"One love, one heart, let's get together and feel alright..."

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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we weren't going to be crossing any international borders, so why would I need my card? Apparently, we were wrong and naive. Lesson learned.
The 100-mile radius around the U.S.'s borders has been referred to as the "de-Constitutionalized zone." Beware.

Be thankful that you DIDN'T apparently have to pass the CBP checkpoint south of Alpine, Texas. It's the worst.

To the poster who asked the meaning of detention: Interactions with law-enforcement officers (LEOs) fall into the categories of Contact, Detention, & Arrest. In a contact, you need not answer any questions or even talk to the LEO, just as if he were anyone on the street (exceptions are the outrageous "stop & identify" laws in many states, an outgrowth of the revolting Hiibel decision by the U.S. Supreme Court -- google it). A LEO is supposed to detain you only on the basis of RAS (reasonable articulable suspicion) that goes beyond a mere hunch. You are still not required to provide information (exception, above) without advice from an attorney, and you may be detained usually only for finite periods of time; however, you are NOT free to go during that time.

The OP was definitely not free to go, so that was an official detention.

Edited to add: This video needs to be watched by every American before any vacation or business trip and at least twice a year otherwise:

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

OK. Am I the only one confused about this? OP states: "Last June i was on the road traveling with my wife from Texas to California. i had to pass by two Border Patrol check points in Texas and in New Mexico". Last time I had was in a Geography Class, a trip from Texas to California does not take you outside the USA. - hence no borders to cross... How can you have a "Border Patrol Check Point" when you are not crossing the Border? Sorry if the question is dumb, but I don't get it....

Samby

there are several interior checkpoints. You can read about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_Interior_Checkpoints

USCIS Journey

04/26/2010--Filed our marriage certificate in Seoul, S.Korea

04/30/2010--Wedding ceremony in Seoul, S.Korea

05/25/2010--NOA1

10/21/2010--Touched

10/22/2010--Touched (crossing fingers)

10/21/2010--NOA2 (not updated online didn't know about it until 10/26)

10/26/2010--Received a hard copy

NVC

10/28/2010--Case# assigned/Gave them both of our emails. Emailed DS3032

11/09/2010--AOS invoice generated online

11/09/2010--Paid AOS bill (processing)

11/09/2010--Sent DS3032 via email again

11/11/2010--AOS bill appeared PAID on line

11/12/2010--Received DS3032

11/15/2010--AOS arrived at NVC (according to USPS)

11/15/2010--Emailed DS3032 (this time with the scanned image)

11/17/2010--IV Bill invoice generated and paid. (in process now)

11/18/2010--IV bill showed PAID. awesome!

11/19/2010--Mailed DS230 (Priority mail because of the weekend)

11/22/2010--DS230 Delivered to NVC

12/03/2010--AOS & IV entered into system

12/08/2010--SIF

12/08/2010--Case Completed

Consulate

12/30/2010--Medical exam passed

01/14/2011--Interview - Approved!

01/17/2010--Visa delivered

USA

02/26/2010--POE

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I disagree. Betcha his next paycheck that there is no record anywhere of this "detention".
On what authority do you make this claim? Answer, please.
Just say no on the form.
If the OP takes your advice and is nailed for lying, how do you propose to get her out of it? Answer, please.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

I disagree. Betcha his next paycheck that there is no record anywhere of this "detention".

Just say no on the form.

Someone just lost their paycheck.:)

1. Photos and fingerprints were taken in Texas. Therefore, there is a RECORD in Texas.

2. Photos and fingerprints were taken in New Mexico. Therefore, there is a RECORD in New Mexico.

3. The photos and fingerprints were MOST likely used to access a variety of government databases. Any access to a government database generates a RECORD of date, time, who, which agency, and for what purpose..

ROC

01 May 2013 - Received ROC reminder letter

22 Jul 2013 - Mailed I-751 via USPS Priority Mail

24 Jul 2013 - NOA1 date

27 Jul 2013 - Received NOA1

03 Aug 2013 - Received Biometrics letter

20 Aug 2013 - Biometrics appointment

19 Sep 2013 - Approved

24 Sep 2013 - Received NOA2

09 Oct 2013 - Received GC

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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There are border check points all through the US in that area because of mexico. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_Interior_Checkpoints

You are the only one confused about it.

OK. Thanks for...ummm..."unconfusing" me. :whistle:

Wishing Everyone Speed, Success, Happiness and Love,

TinTin and Samby

  • 2 years later...
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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No, he wasn't detained in the sense of the meaning. If I was stopped and didn't have my DL or passport and went through the same incident of fingerprints and questioning - I would not consider myself detained! They weren't kept in custody!! They fingerprint to determine identity not to file charges. Did he go to jail? No they let him pass after the harrassment


DEFN: to keep under restraint or in custody

 
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