Nut Allergies and Children: How Others React Is Causing a Call for Increased Regulation.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

No, Paul. Try to grasp the meaning of normal. Normal is not an absolute.

Normal is an 'average' at the end of the day. Which would tell you that these kids with nut allergies fall far beyond the scope of normalcy.

Could someone please assure me that Paul is just trolling to provoke an argument?

No, Paul is advocating personal responsibility.

It's not your responsibility to worry about everyone else's child/problems. It's your responsibility to look out for your child. That's it.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Could someone please assure me that Paul is just trolling to provoke an argument?

Sadly, he isn't.

In Paul's mind, a violent criminal just released should be allowed to have not only a gun, but a concealed carry permit too. Yet, protecting a child from a potentially lethal allergic reaction is an outrage. Welcome to the absudity of Paul.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No, Paul is advocating personal responsibility.

It's not your responsibility to worry about everyone else's child/problems. It's your responsibility to look out for your child. That's it.

Like I said, I'd hate to be in a car with you in rush hour traffic.

[Zero Sum 305]

Kids can be kept safe from health risks. That's the job of the parents to do so, not anyone else.

There's no reason for 'allergen-free' zones if parents take proper steps to keep their child out of the public school in the first place.

Because you know (contrary to the things that have been explained to you about how many allergens can provoke anaphylaxis) how allergies work, and parental responsibility guarantees no allergic reactions. Now you want to not just segregate the kids from school (public or private), unless its a special school for allergic kids. How many schools would you need Paul? Would that be affordable to parents? Would it be reasonable given the overhead costs involved in having a school, Paul?

More things you haven't thought through huh buddy?

Too many absolutist opinions in your un-thought responses... that you continue to pass off as fact just because its what you think. That's pretty crazy buddy.

Could someone please assure me that Paul is just trolling to provoke an argument?

Could be. He does get spanked quite often for his own reactions to the arguments he attempts to create.

Normal is an 'average' at the end of the day. Which would tell you that these kids with nut allergies fall far beyond the scope of normalcy.

No, Paul is advocating personal responsibility.

It's not your responsibility to worry about everyone else's child/problems. It's your responsibility to look out for your child. That's it.

It makes you very, very angry to have to live in a society where many of its members see more than just inside their own homes huh?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Because you know (contrary to the things that have been explained to you about how many allergens can provoke anaphylaxis) how allergies work, and parental responsibility guarantees no allergic reactions. Now you want to not just segregate the kids from school (public or private), unless its a special school for allergic kids. How many schools would you need Paul? Would that be affordable to parents? Would it be reasonable given the overhead costs involved in having a school, Paul?

More things you haven't thought through huh buddy?

Too many absolutist opinions in your un-thought responses... that you continue to pass off as fact just because its what you think. That's pretty crazy buddy.

Could be. He does get spanked quite often for his own reactions to the arguments he attempts to create.

Kids can be expensive. One should plan for that before having any. Home schooling is always an option as well.

I give no 'absolutes' just options other than forcing the rest of the school to conform to one little kid's needs.

"oh but it's for the children" mentality seems to forget that the other 99% of other kids don't have a nut allergy.

It makes you very, very angry to have to live in a society where many of its members see more than just inside their own homes huh?

lol. Not at all. I, like many other people out there 'choose' where we patron based on our needs/wants/desires. We don't need government to 'protect' us from everything. Why? Because we understand personal responsibility.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The one kid could die from it, Paul. That's a bit more important than your peanut butter sandwich.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

The one kid could die from it, Paul. That's a bit more important than your peanut butter sandwich.

thousands die across the world from starvation.

I'm not worried about the kid with the nut allergy.

[Zero Sum 305]

Kids can be expensive. One should plan for that before having any. Home schooling is always an option as well.

I give no 'absolutes' just options other than forcing the rest of the school to conform to one little kid's needs.

"oh but it's for the children" mentality seems to forget that the other 99% of other kids don't have a nut allergy.

Stick with the topic you started, Paul. You want to whine about parents' readiness to be parents... start another ranting thread. If you must insist in addressing my questions, being the numbers guru that you are- you should be able to compare and contrast all school overhead costs, including schooling costs for the kids, at a 'special school' beyond homeschooling. If homeschooling, then how would you structure this? Would that require parents work at night so they can teach during the day? Would this be conductive to a healthy family? Or would they just have to be wealthy enough to afford having a stay-at home parent in this economy we live in?

Think things through...

Like its been said... any number of allergies, is cause enough for justification for the protection of said children. It is sad you don't agree with this, and we are entitled to our opinions about this. See how that works now?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

thousands die across the world from starvation.

I'm not worried about the kid with the nut allergy.

So you're trying to relativise the issue into insignificance. Somehow I doubt it's insignificant or irrelevant to the parents of kids with those allergies. I'm guessing they don't try to equate it with starvation either. It's easier to avoid starvation in the US than it is to avoid products containing nuts.

But just so we're clear - you'd eat nuts in front of a kid with a nut allergy, even if you knew that they were allergic.

Edited August 17, 2011 by fishdude

[nane1104 146]

Anaphylaxis can kill someone inside of 30 minutes. Seems to me you want to avoid that situation in the first place, not let it happen before you deal with it.

That's like waiting for your car to crash before fixing the brakes.

Did you read my post?

[Zero Sum 305]

We're talking about schools, not government. I know you probably shudder at any authority, be they chosen in the democracy we live in, to set forth the proceedings of the society we're born into.

If you don't want to live with everyone else, feel free to work towards that personal-responsibility sovereign country out in the open ocean and leave the rest of us in our attempt to live in a civilized society that actually does act out in personally responsible ways that also include watching out for their fellow human beings.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Did you read my post?

Yes I did.

[Zero Sum 305]

thousands die across the world from starvation.

I'm not worried about the kid with the nut allergy.

We can tell. If this does indeed reflect your mental state, it would be best you did not have children at all.

If you will be having children one day... poetic justice could happen with yours ending up allergic to X, Y, or Z allergen.

Of course, I would not wish that on your kids, because I am not as callous or self-centered as you.

[nane1104 146]

Yes I did.

Great. Then I'd hope you noticed I totally agree with your statements on the topic. ;-)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Great. Then I'd hope you noticed I totally agree with your statements on the topic. ;-)

Yes I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Read it again.