Nut Allergies and Children: How Others React Is Causing a Call for Increased Regulation.

[nane1104 146]

Am I the only one that LOL'd that this little pu$$y's name is Skylar?

Of course parents that would name their kid Skylar are going to try to ban peanuts instead of educating their kid and making HIM be responsible. Nope. "We'll just make everyone else watch out for little Skylar because he can't be responsible for himself. He definitely can't stick up for himself and make sure those around him don't eat peanut butter and stuff. Poor little Skylar."

Did you actually read the article?

If it was only about eating nuts, I would agree and say teach the child to watch out for himself. My cousin is severely allergic to anything that contains flour and he learned very early on what he can and cannot eat. His parents had never have to ask anyone to not bring anything to school or wherever he was but it is only about what he eats.

The child in the article would have a severe, maybe deadly reaction if she was in the same room with someone who had touched some peanuts and didn't watch their hands, that is a huge difference and I think it should be normal that other people are considerate and help this family out.

In my opinion, it is not asked to much to have their kids leave nutproducts at home from school but geez, what would the world be if people were actually really considerate towards other peoples needs??

My husband has a really bad cat allergy. He will have a reaction if there has been a cat around months ago. Thankfully, most people are at least somewhat understanding to that but I think it's because catallergies are known to be bad...

[The_Dude 1,142]

Paul, this cartoon is quite apropos to you: (Thanks to Sousuke for posting it originally)

[Zero Sum 305]

I already gave you an answer, you just refuse to accept it.

It's not my fault you'd rather concentrate more on making it the school's responsibility to feed your child than your own as a parent.

Accept what exactly, Paul? That you screwed up reading yet again?

Would you like me to repeat again what I wrote for you to go running away to your next whinefest?

You want me to accept your opinion about what a school does to feed kids during the school day as a factual instance of your own particular ideology? You seem to once again confuse what constitutes opinion with fact...

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Accept what exactly, Paul? That you screwed up reading yet again?

Would you like me to repeat again what I wrote for you to go running away to your next whinefest?

You want me to accept your opinion about what a school does to feed kids during the school day as a factual instance of your own particular ideology? You seem to once again confuse what constitutes opinion with fact...

No, YOU are confusing opinion with fact.

A school is not responsible for feed your child. It's YOUR child, not the school's. The school is there to educate your child, nothing more, nothing less. It's not there to make sure it has every damn allergy covered, etc. That is YOUR job as a parent.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No, YOU are confusing opinion with fact.

A school is not responsible for feed your child. It's YOUR child, not the school's. The school is there to educate your child, nothing more, nothing less. It's not there to make sure it has every damn allergy covered, etc. That is YOUR job as a parent.

If a child has a health issue, the school has some responsibility to take the appropriate, practical measures to mitigate the risk to that child.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

If a child has a health issue, the school has some responsibility to take the appropriate, practical measures to mitigate the risk to that child.

Actually not really.

The parent has a duty to let the school know and provide medication if necessary to the school nurse, who's individual job is to make sure that those students get their mediciation as directed by the parent,

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Actually not really.

Well, actually, yes.

[Zero Sum 305]

No, YOU are confusing opinion with fact.

A school is not responsible for feed your child. It's YOUR child, not the school's. The school is there to educate your child, nothing more, nothing less. It's not there to make sure it has every damn allergy covered, etc. That is YOUR job as a parent.

Oh no, the caps are back. Paul's getting angrier!

Nut allergies are fairly common. Enough said. If there is any chance that a child can fall to anaphylactic shock as a result of something particularly foreign to their own actions (try reading that, more carefully again), at school, then it is certainly the parents' responsibilities to ensure those risks are kept to a minimum. This includes taking necessary legal and regulatory steps to seek cooperation from the schools their children attend. I know I could say something as you do in making blanket statements and generalizations now as to making that a factual act of parenting, but I won't, because I (as opposed to you in the specific), understand that there are many things beyond parenting that influence what children do.

You can keep getting angrier and whine more, and that will continue cementing the observations that are made about your ability to rationalize your opinions as fact. Which would be indicative of someone quite out of touch with a sane mind.

Actually not really.

The parent has a duty to let the school know and provide medication if necessary to the school nurse, who's individual job is to make sure that those students get their mediciation as directed by the parent,

Sigh. That's what you think they should be doing. That's called 'Opinion.'

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually not really.

The parent has a duty to let the school know and provide medication if necessary to the school nurse, who's individual job is to make sure that those students get their mediciation as directed by the parent,

Yes, really Paul. Medication usually is on hand if there is an attack, but the environmental factors that could cause an attack in the first place need to be minimised as far as is possible.

Edited August 17, 2011 by fishdude

[nane1104 146]

No, YOU are confusing opinion with fact.

A school is not responsible for feed your child. It's YOUR child, not the school's. The school is there to educate your child, nothing more, nothing less. It's not there to make sure it has every damn allergy covered, etc. That is YOUR job as a parent.

Are you getting that it's not only about what the child eats? If that was the case, most here would agree and say, yes, the parents have to educate the child and the child has to learn to be responsible what it can and cannot eat.

An actual nut allergy can cause a severe, if not deadly reaction if the child just gets in contact or even close to nuts/nutproducts.

How do you want to teach responsibility to these kids if they have no control over what their schoolmates have in their lunchbox? What happened to common sense and courtesy?

[N&S 32]

No, YOU are confusing opinion with fact.

A school is not responsible for feed your child. It's YOUR child, not the school's. The school is there to educate your child, nothing more, nothing less. It's not there to make sure it has every damn allergy covered, etc. That is YOUR job as a parent.

SCNR - so Paul, just curious: Let's say little Skylar was allergic to hamsters, enough to trigger his allergies by just being in the same room as the animal, without touching it but being in danger of anaphylactic shock (which can be deadly) if actual contact happened, even by second degree, i.e. being touched by someone who had just touched a hamster. At the school it's normal procedure for classes to have a pet gerbil in the classroom.

Would you then argue it is Skylar's parents' responsibility to teach him not to breath in the air that carries the allergens? What about if other kids think it's funny to first pet the pet gerbil and then go touch Skylar - is that also his parents' responsibility? Or the kids? And trust me kids would find it funny to "try out to see what happens"?

I think the big factor is - it's not the kids choice to go to school. Before smoking was banned in public places going out always was a drag for me as a non-smoker because of the passive smoking but I guess you could argue that it was my choice to go into the bar / restaurant / club. Children up to a certain age however don't have a choice to attend school - if the state requires attendance somewhere I think it is only fair to get the state / government to insure physical integrity for everyone is guaranteed. Don't you think?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What happened to common sense and courtesy?

There's a foreign phrase and a foreign word in this question as far as Paul is concerned.

I swear, I can't wait 'til they have that rig ready for him.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Are you getting that it's not only about what the child eats? If that was the case, most here would agree and say, yes, the parents have to educate the child and the child has to learn to be responsible what it can and cannot eat.

An actual nut allergy can cause a severe, if not deadly reaction if the child just gets in contact or even close to nuts/nutproducts.

How do you want to teach responsibility to these kids if they have no control over what their schoolmates have in their lunchbox? What happened to common sense and courtesy?

Anaphylaxis can kill someone inside of 30 minutes. Seems to me you want to avoid that situation in the first place, not let it happen before you deal with it.

That's like waiting for your car to crash before fixing the brakes.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Anaphylaxis can kill someone inside of 30 minutes. Seems to me you want to avoid that situation in the first place, not let it happen before you deal with it.

That's like waiting for your car to crash before fixing the brakes.

** you and your breathing. I have a right to smear peanut butter all over myself any time I want to ever. If you don't like it, then go die you librul whiney punk.

[Zero Sum 305]

I wonder why Paul hasn't yet posted that its the parent's responsibility to ensure their 7 year olds carry their epi-pens just in case something slips by the school equipment that was washed but that touched foodstuffs processed on plant equipment that may have come into contact with peanuts.

Luckily, just yesterday a law was signed in IL permitting school nurses to administer epinephrine injections to students undergoing anaphylaxis. Previously, it was the responsibility of parents/ER to get the job done, and some kid died last year because school personnel were not permitted to save the child's life.