Nut Allergies and Children: How Others React Is Causing a Call for Increased Regulation.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

No, of course not, but that's an entirely different issue. We can get around having him exposed to cat allergens by simply and unfortunately not going into houses where cats live. People are more or less understanding of that.

Kid with allergies still need to go to school, need their social contacts because no, you cannot put them in a bubble.

And yes, I am aware they could be homeschooled but really...this is an issue of people being either understanding of other peoples problems and trying to help them out or being ignorant and insisting on their rights.

This whole attitude about "this isn't my problem, let the parents and the kid deal with their own issues" is very sad. This could be such a wonderful opportunity to teach your child empathy and consideration, but I guess if it's cutting into their "rights", the moral compass is off.

Sad.

'insisting on their rights.' That's the key though isn't it? I mean after all, what are 'rights' if not everyone can be the same. Therefore we should not have any 'rights' because not everyone can be equal.

There is a place for empathy and even sympathy. Educating the children on certain allergies can help with that. However there's a difference in educating and taking someone away from everyone.

Special needs children have no place in a regular classroom/school environment if they cannot function without the assistance of everyone around them.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Actually, I'm usually paid via medicaid. The kiddos with private insurance (ie. both parents working) have the worst time getting care covered.

That, often, their child's issues are not related to anything.

I have one kid who was totally normal until she was five years old. She's on Medicaid now.

What do you people do -- said kid have several cardiac arrests at the age of five, hypoxia that has left her profoundly mentally handicapped. Her parents have had to file bankruptcy once.

What is Ron Paul's solution?

It isn't Ron Paul's problem to have a solution. Why does it have to be the government;s problem? But it seems they are doing OK and providing for their family. They filed bankruptcy which IS a solution, a way out of paying for one's expenses and they have medicaid, what else would you want? What more should we pay for? They have a child with a medical problem and it is a shame, but having children is not cheap and it is not someone else's responsibility and their are no guarantees. They should be proud and pleased to give all their money to their children, it is who I give my money to, it is who I invest my money in. No better return in the world.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

No, of course not, but that's an entirely different issue. We can get around having him exposed to cat allergens by simply and unfortunately not going into houses where cats live. People are more or less understanding of that.

Kid with allergies still need to go to school, need their social contacts because no, you cannot put them in a bubble.

And yes, I am aware they could be homeschooled but really...this is an issue of people being either understanding of other peoples problems and trying to help them out or being ignorant and insisting on their rights.

This whole attitude about "this isn't my problem, let the parents and the kid deal with their own issues" is very sad. This could be such a wonderful opportunity to teach your child empathy and consideration, but I guess if it's cutting into their "rights", the moral compass is off.

Sad.

But what if your husband sits next to me on a bus and I have a Persian cat (we do) and I have hair on me and it gets on him?

I was taught how to deal with my needs (diabetes) fortunately I have not had to teach my children the same, I hope you and your children are never asked to meet my needs by restrictions on yourself, THAT is empathy and consideration.

[Zero Sum 305]

Wow, the bizarre logic that all maladies require the same logic in approaching them from a public perspective is astounding... but it certainly explains certain things about how and why some folks here feel the way they do.

[nane1104 146]

'insisting on their rights.' That's the key though isn't it? I mean after all, what are 'rights' if not everyone can be the same. Therefore we should not have any 'rights' because not everyone can be equal.

There is a place for empathy and even sympathy. Educating the children on certain allergies can help with that. However there's a difference in educating and taking someone away from everyone.

Special needs children have no place in a regular classroom/school environment if they cannot function without the assistance of everyone around them.

I don't think special needs children and children with allergies can be compared when it comes to schooling eventhough technically, children with allergies have "special needs", the need that they stay away from the particular allergen.

We are not talking about your average..".if I eat peanuts, I am getting diarrhea allergy". If that was the case, I'd totally agree it's the parents responsibility to teach the kid to stay away from those products = they would be in control and nobody else should be "bothered"

Here, we are talking about severe allergy that is beyond the control of parents or child.

In all seriousness, I don't get what the big deal is. If I can help someone to live a somewhat normal life = go to a regular school, attend classes like everyone else, why would I not make this small personal sacrifice and leave the PBJ sanwich at home?

This child will still face all kinds of obstacles outside school, why is it so terrible to try and at least make this part of life as normal as possible?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Wow, the bizarre logic that all maladies require the same logic in approaching them from a public perspective is astounding... but it certainly explains certain things about how and why some folks here feel the way they do.

Better that we all change our lives to meet the needs of the tiniest minority.

[nane1104 146]

But what if your husband sits next to me on a bus and I have a Persian cat (we do) and I have hair on me and it gets on him?

I was taught how to deal with my needs (diabetes) fortunately I have not had to teach my children the same, I hope you and your children are never asked to meet my needs by restrictions on yourself, THAT is empathy and consideration.

He would see your cat and get out of the bus ASAP. Again, his allergies are within his control, if someone isn't mean enough to sneak a cat up to him. That was one of the problems the kid in the article was dealing with.

And if you were a guest in my house and I knew you were diabetic, I would certainly ask if there was anything I could do to meet your diatery needs. Why? Because I have empathy and I would WANT you to be as comfortable and healthy as possible in my house.

Depending on how severe your diabetes is, that will probably not cut it, but at least I'd try and not care if that would change my diet as well for the time being.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I don't think special needs children and children with allergies can be compared when it comes to schooling eventhough technically, children with allergies have "special needs", the need that they stay away from the particular allergen.

We are not talking about your average..".if I eat peanuts, I am getting diarrhea allergy". If that was the case, I'd totally agree it's the parents responsibility to teach the kid to stay away from those products = they would be in control and nobody else should be "bothered"

Here, we are talking about severe allergy that is beyond the control of parents or child.

In all seriousness, I don't get what the big deal is. If I can help someone to live a somewhat normal life = go to a regular school, attend classes like everyone else, why would I not make this small personal sacrifice and leave the PBJ sanwich at home?

This child will still face all kinds of obstacles outside school, why is it so terrible to try and at least make this part of life as normal as possible?

How is it making someone else's life better if your kid does not eat a PBJ sandwich? Why not leave the jelly at home too because diabetics can't have it? The child can attend classes like everyone else. Don't eat nuts. If you are not sure it does not have nuts...don't eat it. How the heck did I ever grow up on a ranch where some of the snakes were deadly and others were harmless? Leave them ALL alone! What is the problem with the concept of the parents educating their children? Why is it difficult for the parents to make their sensitive bundles of joy a lunch and tell them "eat this and NOTHING else" That is what I was told in order to control my diabetes.

Where and when did people lose this ability?

[nane1104 146]

How is it making someone else's life better if your kid does not eat a PBJ sandwich? Why not leave the jelly at home too because diabetics can't have it? The child can attend classes like everyone else. Don't eat nuts. If you are not sure it does not have nuts...don't eat it. How the heck did I ever grow up on a ranch where some of the snakes were deadly and others were harmless? Leave them ALL alone! What is the problem with the concept of the parents educating their children? Why is it difficult for the parents to make their sensitive bundles of joy a lunch and tell them "eat this and NOTHING else" That is what I was told in order to control my diabetes.

Where and when did people lose this ability?

Have you still not realized that the allergy is not only caused by EATING nut products?? Good grief.

[Zero Sum 305]

Better that we all change our lives to meet the needs of the tiniest minority.

Ah the hyperbole... want some kleenex with that?

No? OK, I'm ok with preventing what this topic is about- a potentially lethal anaphylaxis. I know you're not ok with that, and we can call it a day with judgement reserved accordingly.

[HannahP 119]

But what if your husband sits next to me on a bus and I have a Persian cat (we do) and I have hair on me and it gets on him?

I was taught how to deal with my needs (diabetes) fortunately I have not had to teach my children the same, I hope you and your children are never asked to meet my needs by restrictions on yourself, THAT is empathy and consideration.

What if I'm trying to deal with a kiddo who is profoundly mentally handicapped and, say, she pees her diaper and I have to change it. Fortunately, you will never need to teach your children because you have a very "light" handicap. I hope you and your children will never have to deal with *my* child's unfortunate handicap which, sadly, includes pissing her pants, moaning, crawling, etc. Obviously, she should be taught how to deal with her needs but she has the cognitive capacity of a 3 month old, at the best. And she's twelve years old.

So THAT is empathy and consideration. Also, #### you.

[nane1104 146]

I need to relax, calm myself and go to bed before I am going into labor tonight...

[sandinista! 1,816]

Wow, the bizarre logic that all maladies require the same logic in approaching them from a public perspective is astounding... but it certainly explains certain things about how and why some folks here feel the way they do.

and how. fwiw, i discussed this very issue with my 10 year old, peanut butter loving, elementary school attending son. at his private school, there is a child with peanut allergies, though the severity of this child's allergies are not bad enough to require a full on peanut ban, there is some separation in the lunch room, where kids who brought peanut products eat at a "nut table". when i asked him if there were a child there though whose allergy was severe enough that he couldn't inhale any peanut particles or residual peanut would cause a severe reaction so it would be necessary to not bring any peanut stuff to school, he said that wouldn't be a problem with him, he could just enjoy peanut stuff somewhere else. when i asked him what he thought about people saying eating peanuts was more important than keeping that kid from getting hurt or killed, he said those people sounded like jerks.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Have you still not realized that the allergy is not only caused by EATING nut products?? Good grief.

you do realize the idea that a child is going to die/have a severe reaction from 'air exposure and/or physical contact' is a hyperbole for the most part, right? If anything the reaction would be an irritation/very minor.

Without direct ingestion of the product, it's extremely rare to have someone who is exposed to the product have a major episode from it.

[scandal 951]

my 10 year old ... when i asked him what he thought about people saying eating peanuts was more important than keeping that kid from getting hurt or killed, he said those people sounded like jerks.

Smart kid. Smarter than many around these parts.

Smart kid. Smarter than many around these parts.