Stop coddling the super-rich, Warren Buffett says

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Calling yourself an animal won't help much. Focus, focus.

That would be foci.

[Dan and Judy 614]

So you are saying FDR didn't have a clue that Stalin had already butchered millions before the US declared war on Germany and Japan? Come on ...say it. Let's hear you say he was totally clueless about Stalin and his Bolshevik henchmen.

Japan bombed Pearl Harbor before we declared war on them. Germany declared war on the US before the US declared war on them. Hitler was percieved as more of a threat. After Hitler turned on the Soviet Union the US supplied them with material to fight the Germans. Without this aid Hitler probably would have defeated the Soviet Union and then been able to use all their resources to his advantage.

The Soviets and Germans were fighting massive battles while the US was getting ready to fight. The Soviets and Germans were bleeding each other while the US was getting stronger and the British were recuperating. This saved thousands of American lives.

I think this was more "The enemy of my enemy is my friend attitude"

Joseph Kennedy advocated maintaining friendship with the Germans. Roosevelt could have followed that path but it certainly would not have led to the dominant position the US has held in the world since the end of WWII.

Roosevelt did not have the power to declare war but he certainly led us into it.

[Zero Sum 305]

That would be foci.

On several points, try doing it here.

[scandal 951]

I presume the die-hard internet experts will have problems with these here perspectives. I tend to look at the good he did other than his obvious flaws.

They're welcome to have the last word. I've no interest in playing #######-for-tat. I know what I know regarding the history of the era and the man and that's good enough for me.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

I presume the die-hard internet experts will have problems with these here perspectives. I tend to look at the good he did other than his obvious flaws.

Am I the only one that looks at something like the TVA and thinks about how many of the people of those states call FDR and the Democrats in general all sorts of vile things but neglect to mention that their states would be ridiculously backward if it wasn't for New Deal programs?

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

They're welcome to have the last word. I've no interest in playing #######-for-tat. I know what I know regarding the history of the era and the man and that's good enough for me.

Those threads are in OT. FDR wasn't perfect but he did OK, certainly compared to many other presidents.

[Zero Sum 305]

They're welcome to have the last word. I've no interest in playing #######-for-tat. I know what I know regarding the history of the era and the man and that's good enough for me.

Its the internets... a place where angry people convene to show off everything they know that just happens to be against conventional knowledge.

[Zero Sum 305]

Am I the only one that looks at something like the TVA and thinks about how many of the people of those states call FDR and the Democrats in general all sorts of vile things but neglect to mention that their states would be ridiculously backward if it wasn't for New Deal programs?

Angry people are difficult to be reasoned with.

[slim 1,533]

Japan bombed Pearl Harbor before we declared war on them.

But...... what had we done?

Germany declared war on the US before the US declared war on them.

But.... who were we sending aid to, advising, assiting, etc.?

the US supplied them with material to fight the Germans. Without this aid Hitler probably would have defeated the Soviet Union

Ha!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

There were just more Commies than Nazis on FDR's staff, that's all. The Wilson wing lost.