SF cell shutdown: Safety issue, or hint of Orwell?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Not really kip, but now it's clear why you posted all those articles about the riots.

You do try very hard but you always seem to fail to get under anyone's skin.

All that thinking about what I do, and why I do it is starting to cloud your brain. For some of us it's news, and it's big news at that. Although if you look at the UK regional forum on here someone wouldn't think it's big news to the Brits seeing how there is only one thread with three reply's on it.

If you are trying to say that what happened last week in England wasn't big news for a lot of the world (other than maybe the Brits), then think again.

Edited August 14, 2011 by Why_Me

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think a lot about you, I don't much care to be honest. I have read enough to not take you very seriously. You might not like that but it's your problem really.

The riots weren't big news? that's news to me. Pretty big news here, but then I'm not of the view that because something bad happens in my country that it somehow reflects on me. That psychology doesn't work with me kipton.

However, if I were to mention alcoholic ex fiances who bang other dudes, a spell in jail and a belief that all women are the devils, then I assume you might not be too impressed. It works both ways kip.

Edited August 14, 2011 by fishdude

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Why_me you've been doing nothing but bait fishdude.............

Edited August 15, 2011 by Sousuke

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Stop it. Stop the bickering. Stop the baiting; Stop the insults. Discuss the article and the issues that it raises, and if you can't do this, then I am willing to help you. I don't think you would like my help.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Stop it. Stop the bickering. Stop the baiting; Stop the insults. Discuss the article and the issues that it raises, and if you can't do this, then I am willing to help you. I don't think you would like my help.

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http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_18680763

Computer hackers expose BART riders personal information

By Matt O'Brien

Contra Costa Times

Posted: 08/14/2011 01:46:58 PM PDT

Updated: 08/14/2011 06:31:13 PM PDT

Anonymous computer hackers broke into a BART website and revealed personal information on thousands of BART riders Sunday; part of a protest that could include a disruption of train service during the Monday afternoon commute.

Transit officials closed down the myBART website, which is run by an external vendor, and urged anyone who subscribed to the news alert service to change their passwords on other websites if they use the same password they used for myBART.

The anti-BART hackers, angered at the agency's tactics to curtail previous protests, posted the names, street addresses, e-mail addresses, phone numbers and passwords of at least 2,400 of the website's 55,000 email subscribers on a website

http://www.djmash.at/release/users.html.

"I think that's completely inappropriate," said Livermore resident Annamarie Hastings, one of the people whose information was posted online. "It doesn't make me any more sympathetic to their cause."

Hastings said she had signed up for the myBART news alerts years ago to get important information about her commute to work. She said she was angered at the protesters, not BART, for exposing her personal information.

As it battled attacks on its websites and tried to inform thousands of customers about the breach, BART officials also worked to thwart plans by protesters to disrupt the Monday afternoon commute at the Civic Center station in downtown San Francisco.

"We're making preparations to try to prevent any unsafe conditions on the platform," said BART spokesman Jim Allison. "I'm not going to discuss any specifics, other than to say we're preparing."

In a video manifesto posted Sunday, an international computer hacking group that calls itself Anonymous or AnonyOps instructed Bay Area residents to wear red shirts, masks and bring cameras to a planned protest at 5 p.m. Monday.

The original protests faulted BART police for the fatal shooting of a homeless man last month, but now encompass larger free speech issues after BART shut down cell phone communications in its trains and stations during a protest on Thursday.

"You have angered Anonymous," said the video message, which was directed at BART. A computerized voice relayed the two-minute message backed by a dramatic musical soundtrack.

The group also instructed protesters to inundate the work and personal e-mail inboxes of several dozen officials from BART and other agencies.

"This is a Black fax and e-mail Bomb action, the goal being to explode their inboxes," the website said. And the hackers also broke into the website of a police anti-DUI website, California Avoid, and superimposed a masquerade mask over the face of a highway patrol officer.

BART has not ruled out shutting down cell phone communications again Monday.

"It's certainly a double-edged sword," said Joel Keller, a Brentwood member of the BART's board of directors.

"We do inconvenience our riders and potentially present some problems for them. At the same time, if we disrupt communication for people who are trying to create problems for the district, it may ensure our riders have a smoother commute."

Keller said he is sympathetic to those concerned that the tactic violates rights to freely communicate, but he said law enforcement must be able to stop people from disrupting train service.

Allison said the agency has places where people can protest outside

the station, but not on the platform and inside the trains.

"We fully welcome people who have different views and opinions, and we have a place to do that, but the platform is a place for people to get on and off trains," Allison said.

BART board member Gail Murray of Walnut Creek said allowing protests inside the station can threaten the lives of passengers. She defended the tactics BART has used and countered allegations that the BART maneuvers resembled those by dictators seeking to suppress dissent.

"It's a touchy thing because all of the Middle East, the Arab Spring, makes it look, I think, more authoritarian than was the intent," Murray said. "The intent by our police was definitely to protect our passengers. It was shown from the previous protest that it was extremely dangerous, all those people pushing and shoving."

The anonymous group said its Monday protest would be peaceful and offered a partial apology to the thousands of people whose personal information it exposed online.

"We apologize to any citizen that has his information published, but you should go to BART and ask them why your information wasn't secure with them," the hackers wrote.

"Also do not worry, probably the only information that will be abused from this database is that of BART employees."

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_18680763

The anonymous group said its Monday protest would be peaceful and offered a partial apology to the thousands of people whose personal information it exposed online.

"We apologize to any citizen that has his information published, but you should go to BART and ask them why your information wasn't secure with them," the hackers wrote.

"Also do not worry, probably the only information that will be abused from this database is that of BART employees."

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