Rick Perry announces candidacy, promises to go Godzilla on Washington DC

[Pooky 3,825]

Oxymoron.

No ... that's Rush Limbaugh

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Meats are very expensive. Sometimes chicken is cheap but I'm looking at about $10 for 2 cheap and thin pieces of steak that taste horrible.

Fish - don't even get me started.

Meat is bad. Don't eat our animal friends.

Rice is cheap, less than ten cents a serving, when bought in the twenty pound bag.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

What about the $30 an hour factory worker who lost his job? How is he going to feed his family? Your zero-population growth plan for the future of our country doesn't apply very well to the present day situation of many people.

and the idea we need to rely on population growth to feed the old people is completely absurd on its face.

This social idea of everyone young taking their hard earned money to feed some fool who didn't save up during his lifetime is ridiculous.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

and the idea we need to rely on population growth to feed the old people is completely absurd on its face.

This social idea of everyone young taking their hard earned money to feed some fool who didn't save up during his lifetime is ridiculous.

Paul is right. We should be eating old people, not feeding them.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

and the idea we need to rely on population growth to feed the old people is completely absurd on its face.

This social idea of everyone young taking their hard earned money to feed some fool who didn't save up during his lifetime is ridiculous.

Try not going off on a tangent and answer the question.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

#2 - $35 can buy you cans of soup, fruits, salad materials, fresh meat, bread, milk, etc.

1 gal milk = $3.99

1 lettuce = $1.99

2 lb meat = $8.98

2 loaf bread = $3.99 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2.98

2 lb tomatoes = $3.98

3 lb apples = $3.99

1 lb lunch meat = $6.99

1/2 lb cheese = $3.99

That's $40.88 right there and there's a bit more that would go on a weekly grocery list. There's no way you can eat a healthy diet on $35.00/week. No way.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

1 gal milk = $3.99

1 lettuce = $1.99

2 lb meat = $8.98

2 loaf bread = $3.99 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2.98

2 lb tomatoes = $3.98

3 lb apples = $3.99

1 lb lunch meat = $6.99

1/2 lb cheese = $3.99

That's $40.88 right there and there's a bit more that would go on a weekly grocery list. There's no way you can eat a healthy diet on $35.00/week. No way.

as I said. SUCKS to be you in a state with a high CoL.

1 gal milk = $1.99

1 lettuce = $1.09

2 lb meat = $6.00

2 loaf bread = $2 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2

2 lb tomatoes = $2

3 lb apples = $3

1 lb lunch meat = $4

1/2 lb cheese = $2

$24.09

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

1 gal milk = $3.99

1 lettuce = $1.99

2 lb meat = $8.98

2 loaf bread = $3.99 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2.98

2 lb tomatoes = $3.98

3 lb apples = $3.99

1 lb lunch meat = $6.99

1/2 lb cheese = $3.99

That's $40.88 right there and there's a bit more that would go on a weekly grocery list. There's no way you can eat a healthy diet on $35.00/week. No way.

I'd find a different store.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

I still want to know how a person working a minimum wage job can afford a fuel efficient car.

Or any car for that matter.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

as I said. SUCKS to be you in a state with a high CoL.

1 gal milk = $1.99

1 lettuce = $1.09

2 lb meat = $6.00

2 loaf bread = $2 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2

2 lb tomatoes = $2

3 lb apples = $3

1 lb lunch meat = $4

1/2 lb cheese = $2

$24.09

Bull$hit.

Everybody on these boards knows I live in WV, which isn't a high COL state. Milk is around 3.50 a gallon right now. I wouldn't be able to find apples or tomatoes for the price you claim. Or cheese.

Reinhard's figures are higher than what I would pay here. But I think you are lying about some of the prices in your area.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

as I said. SUCKS to be you in a state with a high CoL.

1 gal milk = $1.99

1 lettuce = $1.09

2 lb meat = $6.00

2 loaf bread = $2 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2

2 lb tomatoes = $2

3 lb apples = $3

1 lb lunch meat = $4

1/2 lb cheese = $2

$24.09

Tampa Bay is roughly equivalent to Dallas, TX in terms of CoL. It's the same when it comes to grocery prices. Try again.

If you move from Tampa, FL to Dallas, TX....

$100,000 in Tampa, FL - comparable salary in Dallas, TX $99,350

Groceries will cost: 0% less

Housing will cost: 16% less

Utilities will cost: 12% more

Transportation will cost: 2% less

Healthcare will cost: 5% more

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Healthcare will cost: 5% more

Doesn't matter where you live on minimum wage when it comes to health care costs. The cost will be ZERO because you can't afford the premiums.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Doesn't matter where you live on minimum wage when it comes to health care costs. The cost will be ZERO because you can't afford the premiums.

Actually, that number is interesting from precisely that perspective. The cost of health care will be zero to the person on minimum wage but it'll be born by those that actually pay for healthcare with the money they earn. The larger the proportion of people on minimum wage jobs, the greater the cost of health care for everyone else. In the long run, increasing the minimum wage workforce isn't sustainable since businesses that rely on an educated workforce that isn't to be had for minimum wage will take their business elsewhere due to the increasing burden of health care cost for their employees.

[Pooky 3,825]

Actually, that number is interesting from precisely that perspective. The cost of health care will be zero to the person on minimum wage but it'll be born by those that actually pay for healthcare with the money they earn. The larger the proportion of people on minimum wage jobs, the greater the cost of health care for everyone else. In the long run, increasing the minimum wage workforce isn't sustainable since businesses that rely on an educated workforce that isn't to be had for minimum wage will take their business elsewhere due to the increasing burden of health care cost for their employees.

Staunch the flow of illegal immigrants willing to work, and continue to do so, for minimum wage and the economy will force the wages upward in time. Take away the healthcare insurance industry from the basic level of healthcare, going to a state-level single-payer system, and you reduce the burden of healthcare for the whole population. Make hard choices and you will see results.

View individual parts of the system in isolation and you can make any proposed consequence seem dire and out of proportion.

[natty bumppo 297]

as I said. SUCKS to be you in a state with a high CoL.

1 gal milk = $1.99

1 lettuce = $1.09

2 lb meat = $6.00

2 loaf bread = $2 (if you catch a buy one get one deal)

2 can of soup = $2

2 lb tomatoes = $2

3 lb apples = $3

1 lb lunch meat = $4

1/2 lb cheese = $2

$24.09

people do eat expensive ... lets see ... to further help lower costs ...

milk ... yea generic is a lot lower price than brands. also if milk prices get higher ... there is always generic powdered milk which can be mixed with the regular or substituted

lettuce, tomatoes, etc ... it's summer time. why buy when you could grow your own

can of soup? you would buy? make your own (you do have a garden if you're trying to cut the food bill ... right??? )

if not, generic brand frozen veggies in bulk ... also, get to know someone who has a garden (offer to help tend the thing in trade)

bread ... when i lived back east the local bakery had a "thrift store" (not the normal retail outlets) that sold day old bread. prices were incredibly low. sub $1/loaf was very common. (you can always make your own too ...)

lunch meat ... what are you nuts?? save your $$ and use the normal meat and cut into slices (providing you are not trying to cut ground meat) . cost per lb of lunch meat is usually higher than regular meat.