Could the riots in London happen here?

[lostinblue 1,989]

43.6 million Americans continued to rely on food stamps . What happens if it stops? The money runs out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyrDlObFYoY

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

*A Texan's Answer to Welfare?

This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX

Nov 18, 2010

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for

Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans,

blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want

steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women

Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations.

Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document

all tattoos and piercing's. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol,

smoke or get tats and piercing's, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?

You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your

"home"will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be

inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your

own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or

you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of

trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We

will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo

and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of

the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you

say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider

that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing

absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least

attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system

rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.*

*If you have children who attend government/state schools then they will be

expected to show up every day, homework in hand, and be polite to classmates

and adults. If they do not behave in a responsible, socially acceptable

manner they will be asked to leave. You will need to find another school

that will take them or go to jail. There is no reason other children's

learning should suffer because you have raised a child who disrupts a class

or doesn't do their work. Behavior like that drags everyone else down.*

*AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is

correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will

voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t

welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

[slim 1,530]

Buy ammo!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

There are 88 fireams for every 100 people in the USA. It will not happen here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It has happened Gary

[TBoneTX 45,972]

This pertinent and (at least to me) extremely interesting piece was published just this weekend. The idea that "dependency" is the key element, rather than anything else, is fascinating.

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=332917

Friday, August 12, 2011

REAL AMERICA

Feral youths

Exclusive: Patrice Lewis on rioting easy-money addicts: 'They were made that way'

Posted: August 12, 2011, 3:00 pm Eastern

By Patrice Lewis

The world has been riveted by the riots in London over the past week. The degree of lawlessness, violence, looting, assault, arson, murder and every other conceivable vice has been appalling. Centuries-old buildings have been gutted. Innocent people have been killed.

What I find fascinating is how hard the progressive media has worked to excuse it all. The verbal gymnastics necessary to twist horror into pity for the "protesters" is astounding.

"The violence on the streets is being dismissed as 'pure criminality,' as the work of a 'violent minority,' as 'opportunism,'" sniffs blogger Laurie Penny. "This is madly insufficient. It is no way to talk about viral civil unrest. Angry young people with nothing to do and little to lose are turning on their own communities, and they cannot be stopped, and they know it. Tonight, in one of the greatest cities in the world, society is ripping itself apart."

And why do these angry feral youths have "nothing to do"? It's simple: They've been spoon-fed government entitlements for their entire lives. They have no skills, no education, no motivation, no aspirations. Since they've never had to work for what they needed but instead have received everything for free, they have nothing to do.

The feral youth of today are the product of sometimes multiple generations of welfare. They are not motivated to cultivate job skills of any sort because they already receive free money. The only job training most of these recipients are motivated to acquire is how to work the system and receive additional, unending benefits … perhaps by having multiple illegitimate children through multiple men, or claiming disability where none exists, or some other sly and underhanded technique.

Learn how to achieve a simple lifestyle without "going green" or joining a monastery. Read Patrice Lewis' helpful new book, "The Simplicity Primer: 365 Ideas for Making Life more Livable"

It is difficult for these feral youth to find jobs because no one will hire them. Employers are kind of fussy about requiring employees to show up on time, be dependable, dress appropriately, have clean language and otherwise demonstrate a work ethic. Feral youth seldom have a work ethic. They were not raised with one. Therefore they have nothing to do but riot when the opportunity presents itself.

This isn't unique to Britain, of course. Here in America we're seeing increasing incidences of flash mobs and other examples of social chaos. The perpetrators are just as feral as the mobs in London. And just as with Britain's mobs, the participating youth are feral because they were made that way. They were cultivated through dependency.

While the original intent of welfare was compassionate (preventing the poor from starving), the useful-idiot progressives just cannot get over the fact that the ideal has gone astray. Welfare was never meant to support generations of strong and able-bodied young people in the prime working years of their lives. But it has, and the result is millions of people unable and unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. Why should they? They get free money.

Free money is like a drug. You'll do anything to continue getting it. You'll lie, cheat, steal, murder and riot to get your "fix." You'll produce endless numbers of fatherless children who grow up on the dole and know no other life. The poison of dependency extends for generations. A government that creates a dependent class through the addiction to easy money is no better than a drug pusher creating addicted clients. It leaves unimaginable chaos and heartbreak in its wake.

"We witnessed the very beneficiaries of government largesse exhibiting their gratitude as they stole from an already beaten and bloodied man and forced people to strip naked to prove they'd not withheld any assets," notes David Limbaugh.

Ann Coulter writes, "We're beginning to see the final result of that idea [welfare] in Britain. The welfare state creates a society of beasts. Meanwhile, nonjudgmental elites don't dare condemn the animals their programs have created."

A dependent class never learns personal responsibility. Take away independence and you take away the incentive to be responsible as well. My guess is none of the rioters will accept any personal responsibility for their actions – instead, they'll try to blame anything and everything except themselves. They burned cars, looted shops and beat people because (choose one) the rich should give me more money / I had a bad childhood / the government is cutting my benefits / you're all racists / it's my right to loot since wealth is so unevenly distributed.

Deprived of what they feel are their "rightful" entitlements – and given a spark – it's no surprise whenever the dependent class erupts into chaos.

If I had to pick a single issue that has been the biggest destroyer of our nation, I would choose welfare. Welfare has destroyed the financial need for marriage; it has removed the stigma of illegitimacy; it has taken away the pride and dignity of providing for one's family; it has cultivated an entitlement mentality unassociated with hard work; it has manufactured imagined "rights" out of thin air; it has destroyed our moral compass; and it has encouraged men to abandon their children and thereby eroded the family unit, which was the foundation of this nation.

Like drugs, welfare cannot be quit cold turkey. Victims must be weaned slowly away from their addiction. Their lives must be remediated. They must be taught to understand the connection between work and pay, between effort and reward.

Also as with addiction, many will never be able to kick the habit. These lost souls will always be filled with hatred and malice for those who try to deny them their next "fix." And they will, like all addicts, continue to be a danger and a drain on decent society.

If you doubt this, then please find me some statistics about the number of crimes committed by welfare recipients verses non-welfare recipients. I'm sure they're out there somewhere.

These problems were 70 years in the making, and they may take 70 years to correct. But mark my words: If we don't destroy the pushers and wean the addicts off the drug addiction of welfare, societies will crumble. It has already begun.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

This pertinent and (at least to me) extremely interesting piece was published just this weekend. The idea that "dependency" is the key element, rather than anything else, is fascinating.

---

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=332917

Friday, August 12, 2011

REAL AMERICA

Feral youths

Exclusive: Patrice Lewis on rioting easy-money addicts: 'They were made that way'

Posted: August 12, 2011, 3:00 pm Eastern

By Patrice Lewis

The world has been riveted by the riots in London over the past week. The degree of lawlessness, violence, looting, assault, arson, murder and every other conceivable vice has been appalling. Centuries-old buildings have been gutted. Innocent people have been killed.

What I find fascinating is how hard the progressive media has worked to excuse it all. The verbal gymnastics necessary to twist horror into pity for the "protesters" is astounding.

"The violence on the streets is being dismissed as 'pure criminality,' as the work of a 'violent minority,' as 'opportunism,'" sniffs blogger Laurie Penny. "This is madly insufficient. It is no way to talk about viral civil unrest. Angry young people with nothing to do and little to lose are turning on their own communities, and they cannot be stopped, and they know it. Tonight, in one of the greatest cities in the world, society is ripping itself apart."

And why do these angry feral youths have "nothing to do"? It's simple: They've been spoon-fed government entitlements for their entire lives. They have no skills, no education, no motivation, no aspirations. Since they've never had to work for what they needed but instead have received everything for free, they have nothing to do.

The feral youth of today are the product of sometimes multiple generations of welfare. They are not motivated to cultivate job skills of any sort because they already receive free money. The only job training most of these recipients are motivated to acquire is how to work the system and receive additional, unending benefits … perhaps by having multiple illegitimate children through multiple men, or claiming disability where none exists, or some other sly and underhanded technique.

Learn how to achieve a simple lifestyle without "going green" or joining a monastery. Read Patrice Lewis' helpful new book, "The Simplicity Primer: 365 Ideas for Making Life more Livable"

It is difficult for these feral youth to find jobs because no one will hire them. Employers are kind of fussy about requiring employees to show up on time, be dependable, dress appropriately, have clean language and otherwise demonstrate a work ethic. Feral youth seldom have a work ethic. They were not raised with one. Therefore they have nothing to do but riot when the opportunity presents itself.

This isn't unique to Britain, of course. Here in America we're seeing increasing incidences of flash mobs and other examples of social chaos. The perpetrators are just as feral as the mobs in London. And just as with Britain's mobs, the participating youth are feral because they were made that way. They were cultivated through dependency.

While the original intent of welfare was compassionate (preventing the poor from starving), the useful-idiot progressives just cannot get over the fact that the ideal has gone astray. Welfare was never meant to support generations of strong and able-bodied young people in the prime working years of their lives. But it has, and the result is millions of people unable and unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. Why should they? They get free money.

Free money is like a drug. You'll do anything to continue getting it. You'll lie, cheat, steal, murder and riot to get your "fix." You'll produce endless numbers of fatherless children who grow up on the dole and know no other life. The poison of dependency extends for generations. A government that creates a dependent class through the addiction to easy money is no better than a drug pusher creating addicted clients. It leaves unimaginable chaos and heartbreak in its wake.

"We witnessed the very beneficiaries of government largesse exhibiting their gratitude as they stole from an already beaten and bloodied man and forced people to strip naked to prove they'd not withheld any assets," notes David Limbaugh.

Ann Coulter writes, "We're beginning to see the final result of that idea [welfare] in Britain. The welfare state creates a society of beasts. Meanwhile, nonjudgmental elites don't dare condemn the animals their programs have created."

A dependent class never learns personal responsibility. Take away independence and you take away the incentive to be responsible as well. My guess is none of the rioters will accept any personal responsibility for their actions – instead, they'll try to blame anything and everything except themselves. They burned cars, looted shops and beat people because (choose one) the rich should give me more money / I had a bad childhood / the government is cutting my benefits / you're all racists / it's my right to loot since wealth is so unevenly distributed.

Deprived of what they feel are their "rightful" entitlements – and given a spark – it's no surprise whenever the dependent class erupts into chaos.

If I had to pick a single issue that has been the biggest destroyer of our nation, I would choose welfare. Welfare has destroyed the financial need for marriage; it has removed the stigma of illegitimacy; it has taken away the pride and dignity of providing for one's family; it has cultivated an entitlement mentality unassociated with hard work; it has manufactured imagined "rights" out of thin air; it has destroyed our moral compass; and it has encouraged men to abandon their children and thereby eroded the family unit, which was the foundation of this nation.

Like drugs, welfare cannot be quit cold turkey. Victims must be weaned slowly away from their addiction. Their lives must be remediated. They must be taught to understand the connection between work and pay, between effort and reward.

Also as with addiction, many will never be able to kick the habit. These lost souls will always be filled with hatred and malice for those who try to deny them their next "fix." And they will, like all addicts, continue to be a danger and a drain on decent society.

If you doubt this, then please find me some statistics about the number of crimes committed by welfare recipients verses non-welfare recipients. I'm sure they're out there somewhere.

These problems were 70 years in the making, and they may take 70 years to correct. But mark my words: If we don't destroy the pushers and wean the addicts off the drug addiction of welfare, societies will crumble. It has already begun.

.44 mag and problem solved.

[sara..... 371]

i admit it ticks me off when standing in line and the lady on food stamps can afford top choice steaks while im making do with what is on sale but i have one thing she doesn't have.....pride in the fact that i earned the money to purchase my on sale steaks myself with out government hand outs

just my opinion

sara

[lostinblue 1,989]

http://www.doorsofperception.com/archives/2009/03/london_yield.php

In 2007 Lord Cameron of Dillington, first head of the UK Countryside Agency, famously remarked that Britain was ‘nine meals away from anarchy.’ Britain's food supply is so totally dependent on oil - 95 per cent of the food eaten there is oil-dependent - that if the oil supply to Britain were suddenly to be cut off it would take just three full days before law and order broke down. "We rely on a particularly vulnerable system. Britain needs to invest seriously in agriculture infrastructure if we are to avoid food crisis" said the noble Lord at the time.

Here in america if you cut off food stamps you are one day away from riots. So it seems.

[slim 1,530]

I wonder how many of us on here have a few days (weeks, months, years) of food stored away - and the means to protect it - for this type of event?

[lostinblue 1,989]

I wonder how many of us on here have a few days (weeks, months, years) of food stored away - and the means to protect it - for this type of event?

Slim I grew up poor but never hungry. Hand me down everything poor. A big treat was to go 20 miles and get 10 cent hamburgs for the family. Parents ate out once a year. You raise a big garden and put the kids to work weeding it .Raised cattle, hogs, chickens. Grew up eating a lot of veal. The knowledge to survive hard times still with me.

That knowledge is lacking in todays society. Take away the government payments and chaos. People can say "I also grew up poor" But can you survive without the government hand out every month. Big difference. If you went to my grand parents home even in the 70's you would find hundreds of jars of canned foods. Try a hundred jars of just peaches on for size. Big crocks of potatos,carrots,beets. These people went through the depression,lost farms but never went hungry. Back then everyone was poor but outside of a few shotguns,.22s and maybe a hunting rifle there was not the need for a lot of guns for protection. Actually my grand father had people give him bullets to shoot ducks and geese as he was a very good shot. I have seen family photos from the farm in nebraska where the whole kitchen floor was covered in water fowl.Dad tells of climbing the rafters for squabs for sunday dinner. They never turned down a hungry person who came to the door asking for food. It was not christian to do so. There was wood to split. Hay to mow away,cows to be milked and manure to pitch. Most of the time it was " Do you have any work for a supper meal"

People were willing to work for a meal. Today it is bang on the windows of the food stamp office . Do you think that woman could make supper money mowing a lawn. or even have the kids mow a lawn for a few bucks. Never crossed their minds.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I wonder how many of us on here have a few days (weeks, months, years) of food stored away - and the means to protect it - for this type of event?

Well, my stock pile is not so much for riots as it is for a major earthquake and the assumption that people in the Bay Area may not play nice like in Japan.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

On the main subject at hand. Yes I think riots could happen here, but things would have to be significantly worse. Most people probably forgot about this, but the New York riots were by far the worst in the nations history. It was a riot by the working class against the wealthy due to unfair draft rules.

[slim 1,530]

Do you think that woman could make supper money mowing a lawn. or even have the kids mow a lawn for a few bucks. Never crossed their minds.

Herein lies the difference between then and now.

Well, my stock pile is not so much for riots as it is for a major earthquake and the assumption that people in the Bay Area may not play nice like in Japan.

I'm guessing it won't be neighbor helping neighbor like we saw back in the day or in Japan.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Herein lies the difference between then and now.

I'm guessing it won't be neighbor helping neighbor like we saw back in the day or in Japan.

Well I'd help my neighbor as I know him well. He once served on the Midway.