Is this offensive?

[incanada1234 0]

I predict many people of all faiths/backgrounds will die.... it happens every day from various causes... death is not something mankind can escape

Man, what would we do without you here to explain things to us.

[dougyceci 0]

does the Pope really represent the views of all catholics

Theoretically, shouldn't the answer to this be yes?

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Theoretically he represents the catholic faith. Theory is based on speculation, not necessarily reality and in this case, it is my hope that people realize these are the words of one man, not a popular belief of all he represents. My point really was not his authority to speak but more to the people who listen, in hope they realize, that to most, it really does not matter. Nothing more.

[Veiled Princess 1]

I predict many people of all faiths/backgrounds will die.... it happens every day from various causes... death is not something mankind can escape

Man, what would we do without you here to explain things to us.

Die?

[zzerous 0]

What do you think..............

Take a vote, yes or no (NO MAYBE!)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

pope 9/14/07

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Yes it showes hatered and ignorance of Islam and History.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its offensive in the sense that many use this sort of thing as a way of writing off an entire group that represents over 1 billion people worldwide.

Edited September 17, 2006 by erekose

[Heracles 417]

much like lefties who write off people who disagree with them..

[PlatyPius 5]

What do you think..............

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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

pope 9/14/07

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Yes it showes hatered and ignorance of Islam and History.

Completely ignoring the fact that those words are NOT the Popes. He was quoting from a work written around 1344 or so.

[mmmbop1976 1]

What do you think..............

Take a vote, yes or no (NO MAYBE!)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

pope 9/14/07

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Yes it showes hatered and ignorance of Islam and History.

Completely ignoring the fact that those words are NOT the Popes. He was quoting from a work written around 1344 or so.

right on platypius From the pope on sunday...

"These (words) were in fact a quotation from a Medieval text which do not in any way express my personal thought," Benedict told pilgrims at his summer palace outside Rome.

it offends me that the OP tried to attribute these words to the pope and did not put it in the proper context. the pope, at the time, specifically said they were a quote from a byzantine emperor. what is offensive is how the OP framed her question.

[The Molinas 0]

What do you think..............

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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

pope 9/14/06

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the pope said that on sept. 14. 2006 in one of his speeches he gave while he was in germany.

he already apologized for it though. he didnt mean to offened nobody.

[dani_christine 0]

well.........

*ehem*

personally, i'm offended by this overwhelming pressure for the western world to accept islam as legitimate and good. since when is 'tolerance' equal to 'submission"?

do muslim leaders every single day say things that are offensive to Christians? you betcha. but......do you see millions of Christians rioting in the streets? do you see televised broadcasts of the beheadings of muslims who are captured and in prison?

of course, that's just my opinion, which, by the way, was solicited.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

[dani_christine 0]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

It can be summed up in a single word: reciprocity. It means that if Muslims want to enjoy religious freedom in the West, then Christians should have an equal right to follow their faith in Islamic states, without fear of persecution.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

It can be summed up in a single word: reciprocity. It means that if Muslims want to enjoy religious freedom in the West, then Christians should have an equal right to follow their faith in Islamic states, without fear of persecution.

One of the first signs of a toughening of the Vatican's stance came with the removal from office of Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald.

The British-born cleric ran a Vatican department that promoted dialogue with other religions. A distinguished scholar on Arab affairs, he was an acknowledged expert on the Islamic world.

The decision by Benedict XVI to remove him from his post, and send him to Egypt as papal nuncio, was widely seen as a demotion.

Some wondered about the wisdom of the move.

Father Thomas Reese, a Jesuit scholar and an authority on the workings of the Vatican, told the BBC news website of his concerns: "The Pope's worst decision so far has been the exiling of Archbishop Fitzgerald," he said in an interview in April this year.

"He was the smartest guy in the Vatican on relations with Muslims. You don't exile someone like that, you listen to them.

"If the Vatican says something dumb about Muslims, people will die in parts of Africa and churches will be burned in Indonesia, let alone what happens in the Middle East.

"It would be better for Pope Benedict to have Fitzgerald close to him."

It is often argued that a real dialogue with Islam requires an open debate, even at the risk of sometimes causing offence

That warning now seems prophetic.

Did nobody at the Vatican anticipate the way the Pope's words might be taken out of context, and the likely reaction?

[michellek1976 0]

I agree with you Dani

I don't have an issue with Islam. I have a problem with the Western world having to act so delicately around Muslims because they are so sensitive and volatile about their religion. And yet they show no respect or sensitivity towards the Christian world.

There has been sugggestions in recent years to cancel Easter celebrations in Govt schools in Australia because it offends the Muslim students and their families. Would they give the same consideration to a Christian person in the Middle East?? Wouldn't that be funny?!!!

Edited September 17, 2006 by michellek1976

[PlatyPius 5]

"MOGADISHU, Somalia - An Italian nun was shot dead at a hospital by Somali gunmen Sunday, hours after a leading Muslim cleric condemned Pope Benedict XVI for his remarks on Islam and violence.

The nun, who was not immediately identified, was shot in the back at S.O.S. Hospital in northern Mogadishu by two gunmen, said Mohamed Yusuf, a doctor at the facility, which serves mothers and children. The nun’s bodyguard and a hospital worker were also killed, doctors said. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10693313/