Law grads accuse schools of misleading students with stats

[웃 910]

I have a GED if that means anything.

I technically didn't graduate high school.

Was a few credits shy of graduation.

Somehow I got into community college. I'm not sure they asked for any proof or if they even asked if I graduated high school, can't remember?

Currently a couple semesters shy of a master's degree...

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I technically didn't graduate high school.

Was a few credits shy of graduation.

Somehow I got into community college. I'm not sure they asked for any proof or if they even asked if I graduated high school, can't remember?

Currently a couple semesters shy of a master's degree...

Nice LI!

GED got me into college...not that I finished, but I did have a go with my English teacher.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

I have a GED if that means anything.

:thumbs: It qualifies for entrance in the local chapter of the Sisters of Sappho.

I technically didn't graduate high school.

Was a few credits shy of graduation.

Somehow I got into community college. I'm not sure they asked for any proof or if they even asked if I graduated high school, can't remember?

Currently a couple semesters shy of a master's degree...

:thumbs: Bravo, SIr, Bravo!!!!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

GED got me into college...not that I finished, but I did have a go with my English teacher.

You're that disappointing, eh?

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Nice LI!

GED got me into college...not that I finished, but I did have a go with my English teacher.

She helped with your diction, did she? :devil:

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

She helped with your diction, did she? :devil:

Long story done short.

The ex moved out and got her own place...before we tied the knot, this new gal teaching English #111 had just moved up from Kansas and was staying on the air force base with her sister and brother in law. Back then... '88 I'm going to guess, peeps were still getting used to MS DOS. So anyways I had this Amstrad PC you boot up every time using a disk. She wanted to learn more about PC's, so I invited her over and she ended up shacking with me. The ol lady found out, came uncnted even though she had split, and threatened to make a big d@mn deal about it.

Teacher moves back in with her sister, ol lady moves back in and my life was back to being miserable again.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Long story done short.

The ex moved out and got her own place...before we tied the knot, this new gal teaching English #111 had just moved up from Kansas and was staying on the air force base with her sister and brother in law. Back then... '88 I'm going to guess, peeps were still getting used to MS DOS. So anyways I had this Amstrad PC you boot up every time using a disk. She wanted to learn more about PC's, so I invited her over and she ended up shacking with me. The ol lady found out, came uncnted even though she had split, and threatened to make a big d@mn deal about it.

Teacher moves back in with her sister, ol lady moves back in and my life was back to being miserable again.

No wonder I'm still single. :thumbs: This stuff is gold, you need to start writing it down. :thumbs: BTW, English 111: Methods of Written Communication somehow I think that it wasn't written it was.... :devil:

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

No wonder I'm still single. :thumbs: This stuff is gold, you need to start writing it down. :thumbs: BTW, English 111: Methods of Written Communication somehow I think that it wasn't written it was.... :devil:

LOL...your a smart man IR5. Marriage is a killer.

My youngest brother and I were swapping war stories at the bar last year when his new gf and her yuppie gf showed up. They looked at us like #######? She got a bit shook up after the story about bald eagle hunt that included a .44mag and a 1/2 gal of cuervo. She's kind of a snob stick in the mud.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

LOL...your a smart man IR5. Marriage is a killer.

My youngest brother and I were swapping war stories at the bar last year when his new gf and her yuppie gf showed up. They looked at us like #######? She got a bit shook up after the story about bald eagle hunt that included a .44mag and a 1/2 gal of cuervo. She's kind of a snob stick in the mud.

Women don't think so, that's why I'm single. One of these days I'll get married, one of these days I'll try skydiving without a parachute, too.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Women don't think so, that's why I'm single. One of these days I'll get married, one of these days I'll try skydiving without a parachute, too.

No bs, if this one doesn't work out the next one is going to be deaf and dumb. Iv'e already googled deaf schools in Russia and Ukraine.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

No bs, if this one doesn't work out the next one is going to be deaf and dumb. Iv'e already googled deaf schools in Russia and Ukraine.

You'll have the common decency to post a link in the near future, I trust.

[Ban Hammer 13,407]

No bs, if this one doesn't work out the next one is going to be deaf and dumb. Iv'e already googled deaf schools in Russia and Ukraine.

not deaf ballerina schools?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You'll have the common decency to post a link in the near future, I trust.

You know it!

not deaf ballerina schools?

ballerina, gymnast...either one works for me...but those are just icing on the cake.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

You know it!

ballerina, gymnast...either one works for me...but those are just icing on the cake.

:devil:

If it pleases the court, in my respectful submission, the LSAT really tests one thing, one's ability to take the LSAT. Those "schools" are ABA accredited but they really aren't interested in getting top-notch students, only mediocre ones. They give out scholarships like water in an effort to attract people of a higher caliber because they full well know that the great bulk of students are marginal at best and will almost certainly washout at the end of first-year, in essence the marginal students subsidize the best students. Most folks see some legal drama and think that they could do it. For all the Jerry MacGuires, Benjamin Matlocks, Horace Rumpoles, Wilfred Robarts, Alan Shores that are portrayed on the screen, we never see all the scutwork that lawyers do and how much effort it takes to prosecute a matter that you don't care about in the least. Getting a law degree to pad a resume is fine but very few lawyers who engage in actual hard-core litigation make anything approaching those law graduates who practice in more clerical fields. The IPO types make many times more money than a criminal lawyer and if going to law school is indeed the refuge that it is said to be in hard economic times then one must accept the fact that some fields of law just don't pay. There really is no such thing as a diploma mill in my estimation, although if you graduate from Cooley your chances of a nice articiling job are certainly not going to be the same as if you graduate from UMichigan. Internships are also going to be more difficult but if you are ready to take on tons of pro bono work and expect very little in return from financial point of view, then you will get a look from some of the bigger firms. Name means everything in the legal world so that Harvard degree is worth it but any profession that has a journal put out by a guy named Chitty guy can't be too selective, can it?

Better repost this, just to be topical.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

My link

Ladies: A J.D. Will NOT Prevent You From Fulfilling Your Stripper Dreams

By Elie Mystal

hareIf you can't do this, there's no point in getting a J.D.

Well, I think we are officially at the point in the legal economy where servicing law school debts is just like servicing an expensive drug habit. The parallels between the two are too great to ignore:

• Is it something you started because everybody else was doing it?
• Is it something you initially thought was a harmless way to kill some time?
• Did somebody make wild claims about how "great" it would be for you to try it?
• Do you find yourself whoring yourself out in order to make money for it?

In the J.D. context, we usually think of "whoring" as a figurative state. But not for much longer.

We already know that many strippers do what they do in order to get money for their drugs. Now, through the wonders of Craigslist, we're about to see strippers baring all in order to get money for their educational debts.

Sallie Mae might be just a lending institution now, but she dreams of becoming a madam…

All you need to know about what it's like for recent law school graduates is contained in this Craigslist ad (in case it has been removed, there's a screencap at the end of this post):

$ Female Attorneys Wanted $ (Midtown)

Date: 2011-01-31, 2:03PM EST

NOT MAKING ENOUGH $ AT YOUR DAY JOB? NOT HAVING FUN WHILE YOU'RE WORKING? EARN THOUSANDS WEEKLY WORKING A FEW HOURS A NIGHT GIVING LAP DANCES AND LEGAL ADVICE FOR UPSCALE GENTLEMAN'S CLUB LOCATED IN TIME SQUARE.

SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY. ATTACH PHOTO AND BIO. PLEASE CONTACT JAIME

* Compensation: $

* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

* Please, no phone calls about this job!

* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

How many ladies out there thought that getting a J.D. would keep them off the pole? How many fathers encouraged their daughters to go to law school to avoid this very fate? Now, well, they might as well be handing out clear heels and thongs at commencement ceremonies. Professors who teach jobless 3Ls should just start calling people by their stripper names to get them used to it: "Porsche, can you tell us if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy inside the champagne room? Or is that outside the penumbras and emanations of the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?"

Hey, you got to do what you got to do to pay your bills. It's better than begging for the money on eBay. And who knows, you might find the "shady strip club patron with the heart of gold" and end up

.

But I will say this: if you are a lady who is hot enough and willing to strip but haven't been able to "charm" an aged hiring partner locked in a passionless marriage into giving you a job, then you really need to examine your motives.

Meanwhile, this Craigslist ad figuratively screams another question: WHO THE F**K TAKES LEGAL ADVICE FROM STRIPPERS? Christ on the holy pole, what kind of person goes into a strip club and says, "Can I get a lap dance, also, do you know if I can deduct my truck as a business expense?" Really, the fact that there are probably some dudes who would take legal advice from a stripper illustrates why it is so difficult to get well-paid legal jobs in this market. "I freaking hate lawyers, they're always trying to shaft you. I'm sure that Candy at the club can tell me how to reduce my alimony payments."

And that doesn't even get into the issue of trying to sit down and relax and having somebody coming up to you to talk about your tort liability during a snowstorm. I mean, who goes to the strip club looking for intelligent conversation? Isn't that what girlfriends and wives are for? Has anybody ever sat at a strip club and thought, "Man, what a rack on her. If only she had an opinion on whether I should take ADR or roll the dice at trial, I'd totally stuff money down her G-string."

All that said, I know a lot of our unemployed male readers would gladly take off their clothes and dance around for a little extra cash. Sadly, it seems women are too smart to need legal advice from the crew at Thunder Down Under. Gents, if you're annoyed that ladies have an unfair extra employment advantage, I suggest you STFU and learn how to chop wood, break rocks, have gay sex on camera, or engage in some other activity traditionally associated with men who need extra money.

This whole thing reminds me of a new stat we need the Law School Transparency guys to try to get out of law schools: percentage of graduates currently employed as sexual entertainers. Hey, this might be one stat that helps law schools. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who would love to supercharge their exotic-dancing careers with a J.D.