'Hundreds of young black people beating white people'...

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Yes. Also on alcohol too. And hopefully within the next decade you can walk into a gas station and buy a fat cigarette sized joint for $10 + $5 tax.

I think it is just common courtesy to go outside when smoking. A non-smoker (at least myself) can really feel it in their lungs the next morning after a night out at the bar.

And I worked in a restaurant for a couple years (one side fine dining the other side a bar). Working on the bar side was like smoking 2 packs in one shift.

Don't "choose" to work where smoking is allowed. I breath welding fumes all day long when I'm working in a fab shop, yet it's my "choice" to work there. "Choice" again...it's a scary word for libs.

Alaska = Republican state...where we have the choice to smoke cigs and weed.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And the choice to say the same thing over and over, make half assed libertarian arguments and general statements with no supporting proof.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

And the choice to say the same thing over and over, make half assed libertarian arguments and general statements with no supporting proof.

If it's not broke...then don't try and fix it.

Ya I'm repeating myself for the fact I'm correct. I don't want people like you making "my choices" for me. I'm an adult and should be allowed to make my own decisions. Does that bother you ?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If it's not broke...then don't try and fix it.

Ya I'm repeating myself for the fact I'm correct. I don't want people like you making "my choices" for me. I'm an adult and should be allowed to make my own decisions. Does that bother you ?

I have nothing in particular against smokers but I agree with the smoking bans in bars. I don't see that as unfair.

I do see your arguments about freedom and liberty in that context to be poorly thought out.

[Ban Hammer 13,493]

Different issues Charles, not really the same consideration.

because you say so?

I have nothing in particular against smokers but I agree with the smoking bans in bars. I don't see that as unfair.

don't go in that bar, but i suppose that's too easy an answer.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

because you say so?

That's right. But mostly because you brought up abortion as if I had. I didn't, ergo it is a red herring, nothing to do with the subject at hand.

[SMOKE 1,426]

And hopefully within the next decade you can walk into a gas station and buy a fat cigarette sized joint for $10 + $5 tax.

yah F that! i'll stick w/ $50-60 zips we got now.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

don't go in that bar, but i suppose that's too easy an answer.

I don't. Every bar follows the same rules, easier that way.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I have nothing in particular against smokers but I agree with the smoking bans in bars. I don't see that as unfair.

I do see your arguments about freedom and liberty in that context to be poorly thought out.

Why am I not surprised that you don't think bar owners should be able to make their own choice on whether to allow smoking or not. Further I'm not surprised to why you don't think adults can choose to go into or not to go into an establishment that allows smoking.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Why am I not surprised that you don't think bar owners should be able to make their own choice on whether to allow smoking or not. Further I'm not surprised to why you don't think adults can choose to go into or not to go into an establishment that allows smoking.

All establishments here allow smoking, in a designated smoking zone. That's hardly controversial.

[Ban Hammer 13,493]

I don't. Every bar follows the same rules, easier that way.

so much for choice there

All establishments here allow smoking, in a designated smoking zone. That's hardly controversial.

said designated area usually sucks in the winter around here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

so much for choice there

There is choice. You can smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink. How is this not choice?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

so much for choice there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

"Nineteen Eighty-Four"

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

said designated area usually sucks in the winter around here.

Should I play a violin for you?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

There is choice. You can smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink. How is this not choice?

If that's the best you can do, then spare the bandwidth and stop posting on this subject.