Weird experience at Naturalization interview

[emmysphere 0]

Hi all,

Has anyone ever had a really weird warning given to them during their Naturalization interview?

As we were wrapping up the interview, the lady interviewing said to me. "you divorced a USC, we understand things happen... But let ke give you a piece of advice, do not ever marry a foreigner... This could make us want to look at your case again... We might judge that after all you only did get your green card and citizenship because you wanted to immigrate"

I found that kind of inappropriate and insulting. After all they put me through...

Well, I didn't follow her advice... I met someone from another country and fell in love (with a big L this time) and got married in June. I am now being the petitioner for his AOS from E2 to GC.

Anyone else have a similar / weird experience?

[Golden Gate 530]

Well, just be aware they might scrutinize your case more carefully this time and be prepared, that's all. I had a friend from Italy who became a citizen, then divorced, and later she met someone from Mexico who was here, but she broke it off, because she was worried about how it would look by immigration. She didn't want to go through that. Just have enough evidence that it is a real relationship.

[NickD 203]

Feel all of us to one degree or another experienced two completely opposite F words with immigration, fraud and family. Never heard anything about my family, was all fraud on my part. And you are 100% guilty until you prove yourself innocent by paying income taxes together.

In contrast to your situation, two of my wife's good friends just called it quits this year. Both came here on a K1 with wild dreams of a good life, but apparently not so good husbands. This was after both of them received their US citizen certificate. Both said working their cans off, high taxes, and getting nowhere, both returned back to their respective home countries.

This got me to thinking, wife and I are working our cans off for the government, sure would like to take them to small claims court for charging for services we are not receiving. Working for the health insurance companies, and the oil companies. My stepdaughter received a ten thousand dollar grant last year to study aboard due to high grades, but we made five thousand more this last tax return. Her grant was canceled due to that, she is still going, but another $10K out of our pocket. But yet our property taxes and college tuition both went up 6% this year because the state says they are broke. Our employers offered no wage increases this year, because the government says no inflation.

A 20 year old kid in our town just came back from Afghanistan with both legs and hand blown off, what in the hell are we doing there? My neighbor that already did two tours in Iraq was suppose to retire this year. They won't let him, sending him to Somalia for a year. What in the hell are we doing there? We are over a trillion dollars in debt to China, while manufacturing plants are being closed here. Korea has taken over practically all of our ship building business, and Sony owns our entertainment business.

So, people are coming here because of fraud? Think they are coming here because they have a delusion. Ha, considered going to my wifes' home country, but we are still better off here. Screw immigration, we still want to be together.

Seeing more and more foreigners working for the USCIS, with good pay and a whole flock of vacation, holidays, and medical leave, that would be one good reason for coming over here. But to get those jobs, required to have an IQ of less than two.

[Udella&Wiz 325]

Hi all,

Has anyone ever had a really weird warning given to them during their Naturalization interview?

As we were wrapping up the interview, the lady interviewing said to me. "you divorced a USC, we understand things happen... But let ke give you a piece of advice, do not ever marry a foreigner... This could make us want to look at your case again... We might judge that after all you only did get your green card and citizenship because you wanted to immigrate"

I found that kind of inappropriate and insulting. After all they put me through...

Well, I didn't follow her advice... I met someone from another country and fell in love (with a big L this time) and got married in June. I am now being the petitioner for his AOS from E2 to GC.

Anyone else have a similar / weird experience?

Don't laugh - my first reaction was ...'Don't they realize you're from France?????' It would be like them saying that to me (a Cdn) - I came to the US for love, not to become a fraudulent immigrant - not because I was escaping some horrible, war torn country or other horrid situation. I'm sure you believed you were in love that first time as well.

I hope they don't give you too much trouble.

Edited August 2, 2011 by Udella&Wiz

[milimelo 4,479]

Who you marry is up to you but since you're now petitioning for a foreigner yourself, USCIS will take a look at your A-file - that follows your forever.

Why report this after >6 months passed from your interview?

[emmysphere 0]

Who you marry is up to you but since you're now petitioning for a foreigner yourself, USCIS will take a look at your A-file - that follows your forever.

Why report this after >6 months passed from your interview?

[emmysphere 0]

Who you marry is up to you but since you're now petitioning for a foreigner yourself, USCIS will take a look at your A-file - that follows your forever.

Why report this after >6 months passed from your interview?

I came to the US on a F1 to study. I met my ex at school, i was a young 18 yrs old away from family and thought I was in love. We got married after four years of dating. People change and he turned out to be a loser so we divorced.

I posted this now because we just started the process with my new hubby.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

One of the textbook immigration scams is that a foreigner enters a marriage with a US citizen in order to get her Green Card and eventually US citizenship, divorces the US citizen spouse, them imports another one from her country of origin. That's what the I.O. warned you about.

That's why they will most likely scrutinize your petition for another foreigner thoroughly. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[NickD 203]

Questions 9 through 14 and section D on the I-130 petition you need to fill out ask about your premarital history, immigration, and how you obtained your US citizenship. Also required to submit all of the documentation of that history. G-325a provides even more information.

More than half the domestic non-immigrant marriages in the USA end up in divorce, Thought I was a nice guy, my USA marriage ended up that way and so did my immigrant wife. Its not that we didn't try to correct that, but both of our ex's became unbearable to live with. Hers became a druggie, alcoholic, and a wife beater. And she is the sweetest person I have ever met!

But I am curious about the statistics of an immigrated related divorce, is there even a problem with fraud? Never been able to find the answer to that question.

With " I met someone from another country and fell in love", sure can't accuse you of marrying a person from your home town. Good luck with your petition.

Did learn through my first marriage, if there is the slightest amount of doubt or hesitation, run, don't walk. And that divorce was financially excruciating, never want to go through that again. And don't believe in that holy spirit stuff, how naive I was.

But if I feel if a person does go through that USCIS stuff, either crazy in love or just crazy.

[Casprd 167]

Hopefully you are equally as offended by all the people who commit immigration fraud by doing exactly that.

Going forward, be sure to include an EOR letter for your previous marriage in your package to USCIS and for the consulate. This will be the only real chance you get to explain any of the circumstances of your previous marriage.

[venusfire503 54]

One thing that isn't clear (at least to me) - is the OP and her SO from the same country? If not, then I think there will be less (or no) scrutiny. If they ARE from the same country, then it will be a little more of a battle.

venusfire

[bigdog 376]

Hi all,

Has anyone ever had a really weird warning given to them during their Naturalization interview?

As we were wrapping up the interview, the lady interviewing said to me. "you divorced a USC, we understand things happen... But let ke give you a piece of advice, do not ever marry a foreigner... This could make us want to look at your case again... We might judge that after all you only did get your green card and citizenship because you wanted to immigrate"

I found that kind of inappropriate and insulting. After all they put me through...

Well, I didn't follow her advice... I met someone from another country and fell in love (with a big L this time) and got married in June. I am now being the petitioner for his AOS from E2 to GC.

Anyone else have a similar / weird experience?

Law enforcement has a term, Stand by to Stand by, hope you did not open a can of worms.

[freetv 7]

I personally believe they are right to open up your case again under such a situation. Immigration is a privilege not a right, and as such they should be able to examine your past down to the smallest detail. People marry someone and commit fraud all the time.. then bring in their old boy friend asap.... Is that fair to Americans to get two people who in all reality maybe shouldn't be here to begin with (yeah good faith, etc, I am not saying you shouldn't) but in a perfect world we wouldn't have divorce and if he (the usc) saw what was coming (as I am sure you would have too) neither of you would have gotten married and moved here. Anyway... my point is that they have the right to look into your past the moment that you want to bring someone from overseas... this isn't about love since u can always mover overseas... this is about a privilege to bring someone here. Good luck though!

[NickD 203]

I personally believe they are right to open up your case again under such a situation. Immigration is a privilege not a right, and as such they should be able to examine your past down to the smallest detail. People marry someone and commit fraud all the time.. then bring in their old boy friend asap.... Is that fair to Americans to get two people who in all reality maybe shouldn't be here to begin with (yeah good faith, etc, I am not saying you shouldn't) but in a perfect world we wouldn't have divorce and if he (the usc) saw what was coming (as I am sure you would have too) neither of you would have gotten married and moved here. Anyway... my point is that they have the right to look into your past the moment that you want to bring someone from overseas... this isn't about love since u can always mover overseas... this is about a privilege to bring someone here. Good luck though!

To the best of my knowledge, only 140,000 I-751 applications are processed per year. These are from people that are immigrating legally and paying the price for it. Heard estimates of any where from 11 to 20 million people are here illegally that nothing is being done about. Translates into less than 1% of the people coming here are trying to do it legally and these are the people that are greatly scrutinized by the USCIS. That includes you and me.

Admitted to not even knowing about immigration when I met my gal, but took an interest in this subject. At that time read the USCIS was handing out green cards like crazy to Cuban refugees found on rafts coming here, including criminals that Cuba was tired of feeding.

LOL, suggested to my wife to be to come here with her daughter, would trailer my boat down to Florida, store a raft, go out about ten miles and dump them in it. Then get nearly out of sight and call the USCG anomalously to pick them up. That way they could get their greens cards without all this USCIS BS.

Today, would have to ship them to either Iraq or Afghanistan to accomplished the same thing. Or people coming here from Africa to avoid racial cleansing, These to the best of my knowledge are all done outside of the confines of the USCIS. This is subject to correction.

Just saying, and you are welcome to disagree, from the overall picture of immigration, what the USCIS is doing is just a tiny drop in the bucket.

For me, 100% clean record, honorable veteran of a foreign war, was treated like a criminal and guilty of fraud with exorbitant expense, just to marry the woman of my choice. And regarding fraud, couldn't care less about the USCIS on this subject, it was me that I was concerned about. I was the one laying out all the money and sure didn't want to be screwed by some woman just to come here. And what about the US sponsoring that were the victims of fraud, does the USCIS help them? Hell no, just tell those victims they are still responsible for that I-864 they were forced to sign.

Is the USCIS going out to check the millions of illegals already in this country? Again, hell no, just going against the people that are trying to do everything legally. Let me see you counter this statement!

[freetv 7]

To the best of my knowledge, only 140,000 I-751 applications are processed per year. These are from people that are immigrating legally and paying the price for it. Heard estimates of any where from 11 to 20 million people are here illegally that nothing is being done about. Translates into less than 1% of the people coming here are trying to do it legally and these are the people that are greatly scrutinized by the USCIS. That includes you and me.

Admitted to not even knowing about immigration when I met my gal, but took an interest in this subject. At that time read the USCIS was handing out green cards like crazy to Cuban refugees found on rafts coming here, including criminals that Cuba was tired of feeding.

LOL, suggested to my wife to be to come here with her daughter, would trailer my boat down to Florida, store a raft, go out about ten miles and dump them in it. Then get nearly out of sight and call the USCG anomalously to pick them up. That way they could get their greens cards without all this USCIS BS.

Today, would have to ship them to either Iraq or Afghanistan to accomplished the same thing. Or people coming here from Africa to avoid racial cleansing, These to the best of my knowledge are all done outside of the confines of the USCIS. This is subject to correction.

Just saying, and you are welcome to disagree, from the overall picture of immigration, what the USCIS is doing is just a tiny drop in the bucket.

For me, 100% clean record, honorable veteran of a foreign war, was treated like a criminal and guilty of fraud with exorbitant expense, just to marry the woman of my choice. And regarding fraud, couldn't care less about the USCIS on this subject, it was me that I was concerned about. I was the one laying out all the money and sure didn't want to be screwed by some woman just to come here. And what about the US sponsoring that were the victims of fraud, does the USCIS help them? Hell no, just tell those victims they are still responsible for that I-864 they were forced to sign.

Is the USCIS going out to check the millions of illegals already in this country? Again, hell no, just going against the people that are trying to do everything legally. Let me see you counter this statement!

I agree, uscis does just rip ppl trying to do it the legal way. I know some people who were students in Europe (not European), dad has like 6 or 7 million dollars.... brand new BMW... the works. They apply for a tourist visa in Switzerland during their senior year of school to visit friends in the u.s. who visited them last year and he says this, "You already know ppl in the u.s., are about to finish your degree, you are an immigration risk" Now who the hell is going to throw away 3 years of hard work when their freaking dad could just sponsor them for an investment visa???? My mother in law got denied a tourist visa because she was also a risk... really??? a relatively high local government worker is going to throw away her house, car, job, respect, etc for a country that is going downhill and one that she can't even communicate with other people??? But if you wash up on the beach and say you were raped or pregnant the gc is pretty much automatic.... and we haven't even gotten to illegals. I completely agree with how messed up this system is, BUT I agree with what one VO I knew said, "I can't do anything about illegals, immigrant visa fraud, etc... but I know I can do my job and make sure only right people get a non-immigrant visa." He has a job to do (even if it is stupid in the grand scheme of things, or he is far toooo jaded to be neutral) and can't be held responsible for what other people do. But like I said... I agree that the whole system is a giant load of #######.