Muslim fury at pope jihad comments

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You can have that one - but it doesn't make Lennon a communist.

I might say that Marx and Trotsky had 'some' good ideas - but that doesn't make me a communist either

[incanada1234 0]

You can have that one - but it doesn't make Lennon a communist.

I might say that Marx and Trotsky had 'some' good ideas - but that doesn't make me a communist either

You're mighty defensive towards your fellow liberals aren't you.

I never called Lennon a communist. Reread my posts.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You can have that one - but it doesn't make Lennon a communist.

I might say that Marx and Trotsky had 'some' good ideas - but that doesn't make me a communist either

You're mighty defensive towards your fellow liberals aren't you.

I never called Lennon a communist. Reread my posts.

No - but you've demonstrated on numerous occasions your 1-level approach to thinking - all liberals are communists, all celebrities are liberals. And all that $hit.

[mawilson 2,133]

Lennon.

Lenin.

Coincidence? I don't think so!

[incanada1234 0]

No - but you've demonstrated on numerous occasions your 1-level approach to thinking - all liberals are communists, all celebrities are liberals. And all that $hit.

If only I could be as perfect as you.

Not all celebrities are liberals, just ohhhhhhhhh...98% of them.

Lennon.

Lenin.

Coincidence? I don't think so!

Erekose. Commie. Coincidence???

[KaiserD 12]

The other thing that strikes me is why someone would feel anger or outrage at seeing carnage and death on the streets of European or American cities. If you imagine that many people in those countries rarely leave them, or at least that particular area of the world, would someone who is confronted with indiscriminate death on a daily basis really be that shocked and appalled at seeing the same thing taking place on TV in some other country?

I know I havn't felt half of the upset and dismay about killings and deaths elsewhere compared to the London bombings and 9/11*. We don't care enough about car bombs and deliberate deaths in other countries to expect them to care about us, and do something about it.

* That's not deliberate, it's just a horrible numbness my brain would rather interpret it as "it's just on the tv it isn't really happening" and I think most people are the same. Has too much reporting on tv desensitised us to what happens to other people? I know that I care about what happens to people, in myself I know that whatever race/ethnic origin I would be sick to the core if I witnessed anything like that.

[Heracles 417]

Good to see someone posting yet another hate site.

No offense but that site is not a hate site. It is merely stating factual occurrences..

John Lennon

Ah, the good ol' Communist Manifesto.

Irony of his name sounding like lenin..

Edited September 16, 2006 by Infidel

[mmmbop1976 1]

ah yes, islam, that peaceful, loving religion i keep hearing about.......

[mmmbop1976 1]

Well, when the cartoons were published they were pissed because supposedly those cartoons hurt their religious sentiments.

When the pope says his thing, they're pissed again supposedly because his words also hurt their religious sentiments.

While I don't understand the overreaction to a bunch of cartoons and something an old man in a fruity robe says, I can understand the feelings. Fine.

Every time a terrorist blows up someone and something, we are told that they are misusing Islam and giving it a bad name. Why doesn't this hurt their religious sentiments? Someone is using their faith to blow sh!t up and kill children, making their religion look awfully bad in the process, and that doesn't warrant protests?

[Nizzy 1]

I would love to get together with a bunch of Muslims and denounce the actions of those ####### terrorists...who's with me!?! Ummm anyone?

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Hello? Guys?

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But it's true, the terrorists give us and Islam a bad name. Just the other day I told someone at work that I am from Afghanistan and he said: "Oh don't worry I still like you" and I was like umm why would that be an issue? If I didn't like Americans I would go back to my country. Simple as that.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Good to see someone posting yet another hate site.

No offense but that site is not a hate site. It is merely stating factual occurrences..

Stating the facts is consider hate speach around here. Unless the facts put Israel or the USA in a bad light. You get the memo?

[Mirorgate 0]

Good to see someone posting yet another hate site.

No offense but that site is not a hate site. It is merely stating factual occurrences..

Stating the facts is consider hate speach around here. Unless the facts put Israel or the USA in a bad light. You get the memo?

Fax... Check

Black Light... Check

Elmo.... Check

this is going to be one wierd partay thats fo sho!

[mmmbop1976 1]

(CNN) -- Pope Benedict XVI came under a hail of criticism from the Islamic world Friday for comments he made earlier in the week regarding the Prophet Mohammed and the Muslim faith, in some cities provoking street protests.

A growing chorus of Muslim leaders have called on the pope to apologize for the remarks he made in a speech in Germany on Tuesday when he used the terms "jihad" and "holy war."

Pakistan's National Assembly, parliament's lower house, unanimously passed a resolution on Friday condemning the pope's comments.

Muslim protesters shouted slogans against the pontiff at a rally in Jammu, India. And in Cairo, about 100 demonstrators gathered in an anti-Vatican protest outside the capital's al-Azhar mosque.

Meanwhile, a youth center run by the Greek Orthodox church in the Gaza Strip was slightly damaged by a small explosion on Friday, witnesses told Reuters.

It was unclear if the blast was connected to the pope's comments.

During his address at the University of Regensburg on Tuesday, Benedict quoted 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus.

"God," the emperor, as the pope quoted, said, "is not pleased by blood -- and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature." (Full story)

A transcript of the pope's remarks obtained by The Associated Press television network reads: "In the seventh (sura, or chapter of the Quran), the emperor comes to speak about jihad, holy war.

"The emperor certainly knew that Sura 2, 256, reads: 'No force in matters of faith'. It is one of the early suras, from a time -- as experts say -- in which Mohammed himself was still powerless and threatened.

"However, the emperor of course also knew the requirements about the holy war that were later formulated in the Quran. Without going into details like the handling of the owners of the scriptures, or non-believers, he (the emperor) turned to his interlocutors -- in a surprisingly brusque way -- with the central question after the relationship between religion and violence.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

A Vatican statement said Benedict was not trying offend Muslims with his remarks.

"It was certainly not the intention of the Holy Father to ... offend the sensibilities of Muslim faithful," said Federico Lombardi, the Vatican press officer.

But offense was taken as Islamic groups and governments from across the globe weighed in.

"The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) regrets the quotations cited by the pope on the Life of the Honorable Prophet Mohammed, and what he referred to as 'spreading' Islam 'by the sword,'" a statement released by the OIC on Thursday said.

"The attribution of the spread of Islam around the world to the shedding of blood and violence, which is 'incompatible with the nature of God' is a complete distortion of the facts, which shows deep ignorance of Islam and Islamic history."

Muslim Brotherhood Chairman Mohammed Mahdi Akef also expressed anger over the pope's academic speech.

"The pope's statements come to add fuel to fire and trigger anger within the Muslim world and show that the West with its politicians and clerics are hostile to Islam."

Condemnation also came from Turkey where Benedict is scheduled to visit in November.

"His words are extremely regrettable, worrying and unfortunate in terms of the Christian world and common peace of humanity," the Anatolian state news agency quoted Ali Bardakoglu, the head of Ankara's Directorate General for Religious Affairs, as saying.

"I do not see any use in somebody visiting the Islamic world who thinks in this way about the holy prophet of Islam."

In Pakistan, the National Assembly and Senate on Friday passed unanimous resolutions against Benedict's controversial remarks.

The Pakistan Foreign Office also called into question the pope's comments, calling them highly controversial, regrettable and against Islam.

In Syria, the grand mufti, the country's top Sunni Muslim religious authority, sent a letter to the pope saying he feared the pontiff's comments on Islam would worsen interfaith relations, AP reported.

In Gaza City, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya issued a condemnation, saying Benedict's remarks "are not true and defamed the essence of this holy religion and it defamed the history of the Islam."

"We say to the pope to re-examine these comments and to stop defaming the Islam religion that more than 1 and half billion Muslims believe in," said Haniya, who made the remarks after Friday prayers.

But the Vatican statement said Benedict's discussion on Tuesday was quite to the contrary.

"The Holy Father's desire (is) to cultivate an attitude of respect and dialogue towards other religions and cultures, including, of course, Islam."

According to Lombardi, Benedict's speech was "a warning, addressed to Western culture, to avoid 'the contempt for God and the cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom.'"

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/0...slam/index.html

on the news now, 4 churches have been firebombed in jerusalem by muslims in retaliation for the pope's remarks. i dunno, for a supposed self-desrcribed peaceful religion they seem to be able to get whipped up into an angry frenzy quite easily. whether it was the pope or those cartoons before, seems to be a lot of anger in the worldwide muslim community. peaceful religion? i hope so, but that's not what i'm seeing.

[incanada1234 0]

I would love to get together with a bunch of Muslims and denounce the actions of those ####### terrorists...who's with me!?! Ummm anyone?

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Hello? Guys?

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[rasmussen 0]

You can have that one - but it doesn't make Lennon a communist.

I might say that Marx and Trotsky had 'some' good ideas - but that doesn't make me a communist either

You're mighty defensive towards your fellow liberals aren't you.

I never called Lennon a communist. Reread my posts.

No - but you've demonstrated on numerous occasions your 1-level approach to thinking - all liberals are communists, all celebrities are liberals. And all that $hit.

You talk like liberal is a bad word. Why do you take offense? Some extreme lefties are communists, but they don't like that term so they just call themselves Democrats, which imo is a detriment to the party. There are good conservative democrats that suffer because of the fringe freaks in their party or people that claim to represent them. Lennon is noone special. I didn't cry when he died. It is a shame someone assasinated him, but he was noone special.