Muslim fury at pope jihad comments

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(CNN) -- Pope Benedict XVI came under a hail of criticism from the Islamic world Friday for comments he made earlier in the week regarding the Prophet Mohammed and the Muslim faith, in some cities provoking street protests.

A growing chorus of Muslim leaders have called on the pope to apologize for the remarks he made in a speech in Germany on Tuesday when he used the terms "jihad" and "holy war."

Pakistan's National Assembly, parliament's lower house, unanimously passed a resolution on Friday condemning the pope's comments.

Muslim protesters shouted slogans against the pontiff at a rally in Jammu, India. And in Cairo, about 100 demonstrators gathered in an anti-Vatican protest outside the capital's al-Azhar mosque.

Meanwhile, a youth center run by the Greek Orthodox church in the Gaza Strip was slightly damaged by a small explosion on Friday, witnesses told Reuters.

It was unclear if the blast was connected to the pope's comments.

During his address at the University of Regensburg on Tuesday, Benedict quoted 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus.

"God," the emperor, as the pope quoted, said, "is not pleased by blood -- and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature." (Full story)

A transcript of the pope's remarks obtained by The Associated Press television network reads: "In the seventh (sura, or chapter of the Quran), the emperor comes to speak about jihad, holy war.

"The emperor certainly knew that Sura 2, 256, reads: 'No force in matters of faith'. It is one of the early suras, from a time -- as experts say -- in which Mohammed himself was still powerless and threatened.

"However, the emperor of course also knew the requirements about the holy war that were later formulated in the Quran. Without going into details like the handling of the owners of the scriptures, or non-believers, he (the emperor) turned to his interlocutors -- in a surprisingly brusque way -- with the central question after the relationship between religion and violence.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

A Vatican statement said Benedict was not trying offend Muslims with his remarks.

"It was certainly not the intention of the Holy Father to ... offend the sensibilities of Muslim faithful," said Federico Lombardi, the Vatican press officer.

But offense was taken as Islamic groups and governments from across the globe weighed in.

"The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) regrets the quotations cited by the pope on the Life of the Honorable Prophet Mohammed, and what he referred to as 'spreading' Islam 'by the sword,'" a statement released by the OIC on Thursday said.

"The attribution of the spread of Islam around the world to the shedding of blood and violence, which is 'incompatible with the nature of God' is a complete distortion of the facts, which shows deep ignorance of Islam and Islamic history."

Muslim Brotherhood Chairman Mohammed Mahdi Akef also expressed anger over the pope's academic speech.

"The pope's statements come to add fuel to fire and trigger anger within the Muslim world and show that the West with its politicians and clerics are hostile to Islam."

Condemnation also came from Turkey where Benedict is scheduled to visit in November.

"His words are extremely regrettable, worrying and unfortunate in terms of the Christian world and common peace of humanity," the Anatolian state news agency quoted Ali Bardakoglu, the head of Ankara's Directorate General for Religious Affairs, as saying.

"I do not see any use in somebody visiting the Islamic world who thinks in this way about the holy prophet of Islam."

In Pakistan, the National Assembly and Senate on Friday passed unanimous resolutions against Benedict's controversial remarks.

The Pakistan Foreign Office also called into question the pope's comments, calling them highly controversial, regrettable and against Islam.

In Syria, the grand mufti, the country's top Sunni Muslim religious authority, sent a letter to the pope saying he feared the pontiff's comments on Islam would worsen interfaith relations, AP reported.

In Gaza City, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya issued a condemnation, saying Benedict's remarks "are not true and defamed the essence of this holy religion and it defamed the history of the Islam."

"We say to the pope to re-examine these comments and to stop defaming the Islam religion that more than 1 and half billion Muslims believe in," said Haniya, who made the remarks after Friday prayers.

But the Vatican statement said Benedict's discussion on Tuesday was quite to the contrary.

"The Holy Father's desire (is) to cultivate an attitude of respect and dialogue towards other religions and cultures, including, of course, Islam."

According to Lombardi, Benedict's speech was "a warning, addressed to Western culture, to avoid 'the contempt for God and the cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom.'"

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

And I thought you were such a staunch proponent of free speech....

[Ban Hammer 13,622]

And I thought you were such a staunch proponent of free speech....

speaking of muslim fury......here she is!

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"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Well, when the cartoons were published they were pissed because supposedly those cartoons hurt their religious sentiments.

When the pope says his thing, they're pissed again supposedly because his words also hurt their religious sentiments.

While I don't understand the overreaction to a bunch of cartoons and something an old man in a fruity robe says, I can understand the feelings. Fine.

Every time a terrorist blows up someone and something, we are told that they are misusing Islam and giving it a bad name. Why doesn't this hurt their religious sentiments? Someone is using their faith to blow sh!t up and kill children, making their religion look awfully bad in the process, and that doesn't warrant protests?

But a bunch of cartoons do?

Ok. Whatever.

Now for my hypothesis as to why things are the way they are. Most Muslims are scared of the fundamentalists in their midst. They dare not protest against something the fundamentalists support.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Not answering the question again.... that ole coconut again?

You've beat around the bush so much, the bush now has a moat.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Not answering the question again.... that ole coconut again?

You've beat around the bush so much, the bush now has a moat.

I think you like to ask questions that either can't be answered - or else you don't want to hear the answers.

Because there isn't a international 'anti-terrorist' political movement, that somehow implies that all muslims are or sympathise with terrorists...

[Ban Hammer 13,622]

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Not answering the question again.... that ole coconut again?

You've beat around the bush so much, the bush now has a moat.

[chri'stina 190]

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Well, when the cartoons were published they were pissed because supposedly those cartoons hurt their religious sentiments.

When the pope says his thing, they're pissed again supposedly because his words also hurt their religious sentiments.

While I don't understand the overreaction to a bunch of cartoons and something an old man in a fruity robe says, I can understand the feelings. Fine.

Every time a terrorist blows up someone and something, we are told that they are misusing Islam and giving it a bad name. Why doesn't this hurt their religious sentiments? Someone is using their faith to blow sh!t up and kill children, making their religion look awfully bad in the process, and that doesn't warrant protests?

But a bunch of cartoons do?

Ok. Whatever.

Now for my hypothesis as to why things are the way they are. Most Muslims are scared of the fundamentalists in their midst. They dare not protest against something the fundamentalists support.

I wonder the same, and also agree with the last part you wrote.

"Where is the outrage..."

That old chestnut again eh?

Not answering the question again.... that ole coconut again?

You've beat around the bush so much, the bush now has a moat.

I think you like to ask questions that either can't be answered - or else you don't want to hear the answers.

Because there isn't a international 'anti-terrorist' political movement, that somehow implies that all muslims are or sympathise with terrorists...

I think the point is, that some Muslims(notice "some", not every Muslim in the world...) seemed to be able to form protests pretty quickly in the case of the cartoons of Mohammed. They easily rallied thousands to protest. It looked effortless, suddenly there were thousands of people protesting.

Yet that does not happen when terrorists do things in the name of their religion(in those same areas where there were huge protests about cartoons, where they seemed to have thousands rallied for other causes). Why? Are they scared to face retribution from fellow Muslims, even though they say those Muslims have perverted Islam? Or is it the whole "He may be a SOB, but he is our SOB"? I really really don't get it either way.

Edited September 15, 2006 by stina&suj

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Well, when the cartoons were published they were pissed because supposedly those cartoons hurt their religious sentiments.

When the pope says his thing, they're pissed again supposedly because his words also hurt their religious sentiments.

While I don't understand the overreaction to a bunch of cartoons and something an old man in a fruity robe says, I can understand the feelings. Fine.

Every time a terrorist blows up someone and something, we are told that they are misusing Islam and giving it a bad name. Why doesn't this hurt their religious sentiments? Someone is using their faith to blow sh!t up and kill children, making their religion look awfully bad in the process, and that doesn't warrant protests?

But a bunch of cartoons do?

Ok. Whatever.

Now for my hypothesis as to why things are the way they are. Most Muslims are scared of the fundamentalists in their midst. They dare not protest against something the fundamentalists support.

Exactly. If you're scared say you're scared.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

And I thought you were such a staunch proponent of free speech....

speaking of muslim fury......here she is!

Awwwwwwww if it isn't the ME/NA groupie/stalker again... crying for attention as usual

Hi Charles ! How ya doin' ? *waves*

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I think the part about being scared is true. And its understandable. If somebody here said "That Bush what a dough head" and henchmen showed up at his door and hauled him away.. Not too many people would be calling Bush a dough head.

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I think terrorists blowing up people in the name of Islam would be giving said religion a worse name than a few cartoons or the Pope's words. That's my point.

[chri'stina 190]

I think the part about being scared is true. And its understandable. If somebody here said "That Bush what a dough head" and henchmen showed up at his door and hauled him away.. Not too many people would be calling Bush a dough head.

But has anyone admitted that they aren't protesting because they are just scared? Will they admit it?

Edited September 15, 2006 by stina&suj

[Jenn! 918]

I think the part about being scared is true. And its understandable. If somebody here said "That Bush what a dough head" and henchmen showed up at his door and hauled him away.. Not too many people would be calling Bush a dough head.

But has anyone admitted that they aren't protesting because they are just scared? Will they admit it?

Saying that you're too scared to protest is admitting that you disagree with the terrorists, which would have essentially the same effect as actually protesting. So, IOW, they're too scared to admit they're scared....