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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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So, what did interviewer say? That you filed 60 days too early or that you have to wait another year?

That's what I'm wondering. I think this is something important for anyone else who finds themselves in the same sort of situation (it's just curiosity for me). It really doesn't matter how any of us interpret it, or what we can quote.... I even wonder if the same sort of case is treated differently depending on who processes the paperwork. I have no idea.

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met online May 2006

visited him in Morocco July 2006

K-1 petition sent late September 2006 after second visit

December 2006 - third trip - went for his visa interview (stood outside all day)

visa approved! arrived here together right before Christmas 2006

married January 2007

AOS paperwork sent February 2007

RFE (yipee)

another RFE (yikes)

AOS approval July 2007

sent Removal of Conditions paperwork 01 May 2009

received I-751 NOA 14 May 2009

received ASC appt. notice 28 May 2009

biometrics appt. 12 June 2009

I-751 approval date 25 Sept 2009 (no updates on the system - still says 'received'/"initial review")

19 Oct 2009 - got text message "card production ordered"

24 Oct 2009 - actual card in the mail box!

sent his N-400 - 14 May 2010

check cashed 27 May 2010

NOA received 29 May 2010 (dated 24 May)

Biometrics Appointment Letter received 17 June 2010

Biometrics scheduled for 08 July 2010; walk-in successfully done in Philadelphia 07 July 2010

02 Oct 2010 - FINALLY got email saying the case was being transferred to the local office. Hoping to get his interview letter soon...

05 Oct 2010 - received interview letter!!!!

08 November 2010 - scheduled for N-400 interview

- went together for interview; file isn't there - need to wait to be rescheduled

Jan 2011 - went for Infopass

25 Feb 2011 - interview

19 April 2011 - Infopass

8 July 2011 - HE'S FINALLY A CITIZEN - WOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 July 2011 - citizenship party

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The issue has been solved for the OP. It is not a matter of confusion or a capricious USCIS officer. The instructions indicate that you must have been married to a USC for 3 years before you can file the paperwork. They indicate that you can apply, if the other conditions are met (in this case being married a full 3 years to a single USC) up to 90 days before you have been a LPR for 3 years. The OP was not married to a USC for a full 3 years when they filed the paperwork, so they were not eligible. Remember, most people who gain GCs through marriage do not get them the same day they were married. There is usually a lag time of 3 months of more between marriage and LPR status.

As I said earlier, this might prove troublesome for K-1 entrants who obtain their GCs in less than 3 months after marriage, because they cannot estimate their naturalization clock by the "resident since" date on their GCs.

Some other people thought the OP is "double ineligible," if you will, by virtue of them not being sponsored through marriage for GC in the first place. However, the instructions indicate nothing about the applicant having to gain GC through USC marriage in order to qualify. The instructions simply state that the person must have been married to a single USC (if they divorce and remarry they are not eligible) "during the time" they were also GC holders for 3 years - 90 days. Therefore, it seems a person could, though it is probably rare, obtain a GC through work or other means. Then the GC holder gets married to a USC, and through that marriage essentially "upgrades" their naturalization clock to 3 years if they remain married to their new spouse. By literal interpretation of the instructions, this is possible. There is no indication that the applicant must GAIN LPR status through a spouse to be eligible for 3 years, though people still disagree for some reason. Surely, this is the most common way to qualify for the 3 year rule, but nothing says it is the only way. I think people are misreading the instructions, and adding something that is not there.

To answer Bob; "during such time" merely refers to the time the person was a GC-holder. They must be married to a single USC "during such time" in which they were a GC-holder.

Edited by Harpa Timsah

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Can't edit anymore - To further clarify to Bob, after I re-read his objection. Yes, "during such time" must indicate the last 3 years (and during which they were also LPRs), not the whole time they were LPRs.

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Can't edit anymore - To further clarify to Bob, after I re-read his objection. Yes, "during such time" must indicate the last 3 years (and during which they were also LPRs), not the whole time they were LPRs.

Harpa,

good job. I just assumed that the requirement would imply that the applicant had received his or her Green Card based on marriage to a US citizen and would be still married to them. But as you showed, that's nowhere written down, so the O.P.'s case, as rare as it is, helped to clear this up.

I stand corrected.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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