Is this blackmail?

[Diddl 2]

Yeah, it's weird to me too! I don't understand their logic behind this either. They have a copy of my passport with the stamps, they want to know how I paid for the trips.

I have been on VJ for about 3 months but never posted as I just decided to join today. I took a brief look at your timeline. I think that they may be suspecting fraud on your behalf. The reason I state this is because you went to Pakistan "after" your divorce. Why did you go there and who did you visit? Do you have children out of this previous marriage? Also, is there a great degree of age difference between you and your new hubby? I am just a bit stunned at how your embassy works in the beneficiary's country. I am afraid these "red flags" may pop up in my case too. My trips were paid for by my cousin in Venezuela and my wife and I have met 8 times. She's came here to visit me. I think they feel like you are going to Pakistan bringing people over to USA and getting paid for it. I think they are uncertain of why you would try to pursue two men from the same country in a short duration. They may even suspect that your husband is fraudulent because you have been divorced. I know a few South Asian guys over here in my roofing company and they are really strict about marrying people who are non-virgin. You may want to get an attorney to intervene.

[Diddl 2]

ok.. so the airport documents won't help - they know you made the trips they want to know how they were funded... I see your dilemma if he paid directly for the trips using a credit card - unless the airline can show they were made with a credit card and they have the purchasers name.

If he gave you money directly and you deposited it you should be able to go back and get bank statements showing where the checks were deposited, highlight the deposits so they can see where the money originated. there does not need to be any correlation just a "see I received money here, here, and here - saved it and used for my trips"

Hmm the more I think about this.. You should only show them funds for trips when you were not married and visiting your guy, the others trips I would put something like "I was married during this trip and my ex-husband paid for these trips, he has chosen to not share the financial information with me."

Don't you think that by stating "I was married during this trip and my ex-husband paid for these trips, he has chosen to not share the financial information with me." it would denote that she refuses to give them the information requested? I think this will ruin her case totally! Because first and foremost why on Earth was she there in the first place? She will continue to be scrutinized if she tells them all of that.

Edited July 30, 2011 by Diddl

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Don't you think that by stating "I was married during this trip and my ex-husband paid for these trips, he has chosen to not share the financial information with me." it would denote that she refuses to give them the information requested? I think this will ruin her case totally! Because first and foremost why on Earth was she there in the first place? She will continue to be scrutinized if she tells them all of that.

no I don't think so.. The circumstances were different - at the time she was married and visiting the country with her at-that-time husband.. He paid for it - or at least the cards used were in his name.. There is nothing wrong with that. People get married, people get divorced, people travel. She was not seeing the current husband at the time. The consulate needs to fully understand the time-line.

There is also nothing wrong with returning on her own after the divorce. There may need to be a case made for the trip that he paid for the tickets - such as he owed her money for something from the divorce, didn't have the money on hand, and so she negotiated a ticket instead which in essence let him put his alimony that month (or whatever money he had agreed to pay) on his credit card..

[Rainbow Medallion 2]

no I don't think so.. The circumstances were different - at the time she was married and visiting the country with her at-that-time husband.. He paid for it - or at least the cards used were in his name.. There is nothing wrong with that. People get married, people get divorced, people travel. She was not seeing the current husband at the time. The consulate needs to fully understand the time-line.

There is also nothing wrong with returning on her own after the divorce. There may need to be a case made for the trip that he paid for the tickets - such as he owed her money for something from the divorce, didn't have the money on hand, and so she negotiated a ticket instead which in essence let him put his alimony that month (or whatever money he had agreed to pay) on his credit card..

Maybe she can create a very detailed timeline for them with the help of her lawyer's written statement as well. Do you think that would suffice?

[Brit Abroad 166]

Credit card companies are legally required to hold records of financial transactions for a minimum of 7 years. If you were a joint cardholder, or you were named anywhere on that account during the period concerned, then you have the right to approach the card company and request an itemised transaction list for the period you believe the ticket was purchased in.

The airlines will almost certainly have a record of the flight manifest, but not necessarily who paid for it as these are often received via third party sites like Travelocity, Kayak etc. If you remember who the flight was purchased via, then you could try asking them, but I would imagine if it wasn't you named on the transaction they may be reluctant to give you that information.

Was anyone in your ex-husband's family aware of him purchasing the ticket for you? Are you on decent terms with any of them and would they be prepared to write you an affidavit to state that they were aware of the purchase and your subsequent trip? As there would be no vested interest for ex-in-laws to do that, it may be acceptable to USCIS.

I would certainly be looking for any avenue that didn't involve communication with the ex.

Edited July 30, 2011 by Brit Abroad

[Bill and Vicky 25]

IS this blackmail? Can I do anything about it? I have not talked to him since our divorce was final, so he has no information and does not even know my husband. How can he threaten to say my case is not real if i only email him to get info? He knows nothing of our case!

Print out the email and save it just in case. But I wouldn't call him again at work...for that matter, I believe I'd just leave him alone. If he decides you're harassing him, he can certainly cause you issues.

Find some other way to get the documentation you need. Worst case, write out a letter of explanation as to what happened and what steps you took to try and get the documentation, and send it in instead.

Care,

Bill

[bigdog 376]

Hi all,

The embassy has requested documents regarding trips I took to Pakistan in the past. I did not have this information, so I attempted to email my ex husband to get it. He did not respond. My husband called his work, only one time to see if he could get the info from him. He said to email him. My husband emailed my ex and this is the email he replied with:

Well First of all, if you call again at my work, I will call straight to National Visa center and American Embassy regarding your case since I have your case number too.

So check me, I will call them.

Give me a week to think that I want to help you or not.

I did not buy her any ticket for that time feb 2009.

When we did seperate, I did pay her $1500 cash .

Now maybe I can write that because that is true.

Other than that, I do not remember anything from my past bad memories.

So again, check me once more by calling at my work, I swear that I will call national Visa center and American Embassy in Islamabad that your case as much I know is not real.

f your wife ever sent me email, I will call to Embassy .

IS this blackmail? Can I do anything about it? I have not talked to him since our divorce was final, so he has no information and does not even know my husband. How can he threaten to say my case is not real if i only email him to get info? He knows nothing of our case!

[bigdog 376]

He is is not going to help, you have your passport indicating travel, if you stayed on a hotel call them for a receipt, write a letter and state the facts only, return as much information as you can. Maybe plan B and be creative to validate your travel. Wait a week as requested.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

He is is not going to help, you have your passport indicating travel, if you stayed on a hotel call them for a receipt, write a letter and state the facts only, return as much information as you can. Maybe plan B and be creative to validate your travel. Wait a week as requested.

The hotel info is useless. The OP needs proof of who PAID for the trip, not proof that she went on the trip.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Credit card companies are legally required to hold records of financial transactions for a minimum of 7 years. If you were a joint cardholder, or you were named anywhere on that account during the period concerned, then you have the right to approach the card company and request an itemised transaction list for the period you believe the ticket was purchased in.

Even if the credit card was in your husbands name only, You are entitled to the info from the time you were married ( I think ). At the time of the divorce you are required to state your assets and debts. My divorce decree from a few years ago lists our credit cards along with the numbers ( the last 4 digits are x's on my copy). Your lawyer might have the whole number. You might be able to just call the credit card company yourself and ask for some back statements. If not

your lawyer can get the records for you but of course that is going to cost you something.

My ex would rather put a fork in her eye than help me with the visa process.

I think you can get the info, but not through your ex.

[wendy&tamer 10]

Why do you need this info from your ex husband? Doesnt your passport have a stamp showing the times you visited Pakistan? I would try to gather as much info you can on your own and now allow your husband to contact your ex...that is something you should have done and not your husband.....My husband and ex do not talk to each other and I feel that Im the one responsible for any communication to my ex husband. If he doesnt want to help you gather info then he doesnt have to....I would however keep the email just in case he trys to start any problems but I do not think I would contact him for any other "help". Good luck

[talean nawaz 41]

I have been on VJ for about 3 months but never posted as I just decided to join today. I took a brief look at your timeline. I think that they may be suspecting fraud on your behalf. The reason I state this is because you went to Pakistan "after" your divorce. Why did you go there and who did you visit? Do you have children out of this previous marriage? Also, is there a great degree of age difference between you and your new hubby? I am just a bit stunned at how your embassy works in the beneficiary's country. I am afraid these "red flags" may pop up in my case too. My trips were paid for by my cousin in Venezuela and my wife and I have met 8 times. She's came here to visit me. I think they feel like you are going to Pakistan bringing people over to USA and getting paid for it. I think they are uncertain of why you would try to pursue two men from the same country in a short duration. They may even suspect that your husband is fraudulent because you have been divorced. I know a few South Asian guys over here in my roofing company and they are really strict about marrying people who are non-virgin. You may want to get an attorney to intervene.

I don't think its a great degree of age difference, we are both in our 20's... im a bit older, but im still in my 20's. no, i dont have any children from the previous marriage, i found out towards the end of the marriage that i have polycystic ovarian syndrome and we started to try, but then the problems started, so im grateful there. My ex, i met in japan... he was born in pakistan though. I actuallly obtained a residence visa, same idea of a green card, in japan through him. Its a long story why i went to pakistan after my divorce, maybe a story for another time and i dont want to divulge too much info anyway. i think i may consult an attorney...

ex sent a very brief email today agreeing to send a notorized letter "within a month."

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Is this the second immigrant you have petitioned? Your ex's english leaves something to be desired, and you said he was "now a citizen." Is he from Pakistan too?

[A and T 82]

So your previous husband (while still married) paid for your ticket to Pakistan where you met your current husband? Yeah, I could how he would be a bit pissed about that

[Dan and Judy 614]

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ex sent a very brief email today agreeing to send a notorized letter "within a month."

don't hold your breath waiting for that letter, especially if there is a deadline on getting the info to the embassy. It could be a ploy to get you to do nothing for the next month while waiting on the letter.

It is also possible he intends to send it to you. I don't know. I would go ahead and at least have a discussion with the lawyer about your ability to get the records yourself.

Also I think the Embassy would rather see the credit card statement than a letter from your ex.