TOS Violations and Moderator Responses

[luckytxn 2,264]

You are not allowed to visit this community

Was this really necessary to say this? Was it worth pissing off his friends and other members who liked him? Members that are assets at that.

I was thinking how this man has maybe more knowledge about the process this site is wanting to put out than most people here will ever know. Of course it seems a couple of mods couldn't wait to 'get him'. smh

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Who sent the message above? Happy to discuss in private (just not a fan of throwing stones in public; if there was an error on our side or something we could do better, then I'd like the chance to work with our team to correct it).

The whole point of our mod meeting was to make changes based on the feedback from everyone. It is and will be a genuine effort. I hope you can give us some time before calling the attempt a failure. Hopefully at least from myself you can see that I truly am making an effort. The mod team as well will be evolving to better support everyone here.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I think that an effort is being made and that it will get refined in the near future. I for one like the more detailed moderator responses. I think you are making an effort to listen to our concerns. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Your mods are familar with this issue and can be more helpful. I have discussed this and the mods seem fine with the actions taken and such so they have no problems. Makes no difference that a few members are upset by it. It is just a few not many.

Anyway I am tired after helping a newb from the VN section personally. I helped him with a couple of things and now he is asking me 3 more questions that needed answers. A rest from here would be a relief anyway.

Who sent the message above? Happy to discuss in private (just not a fan of throwing stones in public; if there was an error on our side or something we could do better, then I'd like the chance to work with our team to correct it).

The whole point of our mod meeting was to make changes based on the feedback from everyone. It is and will be a genuine effort. I hope you can give us some time before calling the attempt a failure. Hopefully at least from myself you can see that I truly am making an effort. The mod team as well will be evolving to better support everyone here.

Rome was destroyed though.

I think that an effort is being made and that it will get refined in the near future. I for one like the more detailed moderator responses. I think you are making an effort to listen to our concerns. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Fair enough. That said, I'm concerned with what you said. Hopefully that means something.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Yes but they are your mods. Your site said this. Night Ewok and I like that you are trying to fix the forums anyway.

Fair enough. That said, I'm concerned with what you said. Hopefully that means something.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Rome was destroyed though.

That sounds like something someone who ate tainted Cheerios would say.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

The basic structure design is moving along nicely. I agree with the entry restrictions. Mod selection? Please be sure to build in objectivity. Others might disagree...(but) I think TBone is best choice. (I am basing - on his public handling of disputes. He seems to maintain objectivity when judge of a dispute)

I think the "Offense" mentioned by Ewok - still needs to be clarified.

My suggestion = Keep it Simple. Allow me to explain.

This thread is a perfect example = Many opposing perspectives expressed = Snarky.

1st - IMO - the snark cannot be taken out of the snark. Emotionally mature people (which I am trying to become) are not affected by Snark (too much). So - I vote - Snark & let Snark. Some might prefer a snark free environment...but...That's ...unrealistic hope. Snark is allowed.

What constitutes an offense?

Racism & Hate Speech = Slurs & Disparagement. (postings like Danno's & Marvin's...allowed. Whether I agree with them or not - They each do a good job representing both sides of the discussion. & neither utilizes slurs or disparagement)

Pornography = No nudity...(up to) "PG" rated content acceptable.

Ad Hominem = (direct) Character Assassination. (It is very apparent the participants in this forum are adept at insulting another without resorting to name calling)

(I want to be sure = Ridiculing Sexual Orientation with left handed insults - including - You're so LBGT "jokes", Misogynistic Comments & Degrading Sexism should be included in Hate Speech category).....

How is this different from current TOS? Coz we take out the "ruining my enjoyment" aspect. Strip the offense guidelines to the basics = Gloves off...have fun. Sometimes a debate ruins the enjoyment of another..the loser. Get over it.

Enter the cage with eyes wide open = Sensitive types = Beware of the VJs. Coz sometimes they bite.

Edited May 31, 2014 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Karee 4,190]

Who sent the message above? Happy to discuss in private (just not a fan of throwing stones in public; if there was an error on our side or something we could do better, then I'd like the chance to work with our team to correct it).

It says that when someone is banned right under "Sorry, you don't have permission for that" It says "You are not allowed to visit this community"

Edited May 31, 2014 by Karee

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I think that an effort is being made and that it will get refined in the near future. I for one like the more detailed moderator responses. I think you are making an effort to listen to our concerns. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Agree

Spook I tried to inbox you. It said you can't revive any new messages

[B_J 2,752]

The basic structure design is moving along nicely. I agree with the entry restrictions. Mod selection? Please be sure to build in objectivity. Others might disagree...(but) I think TBone is best choice. (I am basing - on his public handling of disputes. He seems to maintain objectivity when judge of a dispute)

I think the "Offense" mentioned by Ewok - still needs to be clarified.

My suggestion = Keep it Simple. Allow me to explain.

This thread is a perfect example = Many opposing perspectives expressed = Snarky.

1st - IMO - the snark cannot be taken out of the snark. Emotionally mature people (which I am trying to become) are not affected by Snark (too much). So - I vote - Snark & let Snark. Some might prefer a snark free environment...but...That's ...unrealistic hope. Snark is allowed.

What constitutes an offense?

Racism & Hate Speech = Slurs & Disparagement. (postings like Danno's & Marvin's...allowed. Whether I agree with them or not - They each do a good job representing both sides of the discussion. & neither utilizes slurs or disparagement)

Pornography = No nudity...(up to) "PG" rated content acceptable.

Ad Hominem = (direct) Character Assassination. (It is very apparent the participants in this forum are adept at insulting another without resorting to name calling)

(I want to be sure = Ridiculing Sexual Orientation with left handed insults - including - You're so LBGT "jokes", Misogynistic Comments & Degrading Sexism should be included in Hate Speech category).....

How is this different from current TOS? Coz we take out the "ruining my enjoyment" aspect. Strip the offense guidelines to the basics = Gloves off...have fun. Sometimes a debate ruins the enjoyment of another..the loser. Get over it.

Enter the cage with eyes wide open = Sensitive types = Beware of the VJs. Coz sometimes they bite.

I pretty much agree with all of that. I have no problem discussing topics but there is no need for slurs, etc.

I do disagree with the mod choice. I, of course, have nothing against TBone but I would prefer a brand new mod, dedicated to CEHST, from CEHST.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That sounds like something someone who ate tainted Cheerios would say.

Was our buddy in the sauce last night ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The basic structure design is moving along nicely. I agree with the entry restrictions. Mod selection? Please be sure to build in objectivity. Others might disagree...(but) I think TBone is best choice. (I am basing - on his public handling of disputes. He seems to maintain objectivity when judge of a dispute)

I think the "Offense" mentioned by Ewok - still needs to be clarified.

My suggestion = Keep it Simple. Allow me to explain.

This thread is a perfect example = Many opposing perspectives expressed = Snarky.

1st - IMO - the snark cannot be taken out of the snark. Emotionally mature people (which I am trying to become) are not affected by Snark (too much). So - I vote - Snark & let Snark. Some might prefer a snark free environment...but...That's ...unrealistic hope. Snark is allowed.

What constitutes an offense?

Racism & Hate Speech = Slurs & Disparagement. (postings like Danno's & Marvin's...allowed. Whether I agree with them or not - They each do a good job representing both sides of the discussion. & neither utilizes slurs or disparagement)

Pornography = No nudity...(up to) "PG" rated content acceptable.

Ad Hominem = (direct) Character Assassination. (It is very apparent the participants in this forum are adept at insulting another without resorting to name calling)

(I want to be sure = Ridiculing Sexual Orientation with left handed insults - including - You're so LBGT "jokes", Misogynistic Comments & Degrading Sexism should be included in Hate Speech category).....

How is this different from current TOS? Coz we take out the "ruining my enjoyment" aspect. Strip the offense guidelines to the basics = Gloves off...have fun. Sometimes a debate ruins the enjoyment of another..the loser. Get over it.

Enter the cage with eyes wide open = Sensitive types = Beware of the VJs. Coz sometimes they bite.

Not bad but PG-13 would be better . i also think the Mods need an ask before nuke policy.. TboneTX and add Spooky.

I will also add Kathryn does not deserve some of the Attacks hurled at her.

[Pooky 3,783]

Not bad but PG-13 would be better . i also think the Mods need an ask before nuke policy.. TboneTX and add Spooky.

I will also add Kathryn does not deserve some of the Attacks hurled at her.

Whoever is chosen, they have to want the responsibility. Dealing with a group of inveterate reprobates such as the regular posters in Current Events is not everyone's cup of tea.

Until a new system has had time to settle down and work out the kinks, it could be a high maintenance forum, needing someone with quite a bit of time on their hands.

[luckytxn 2,264]

No.

Was our buddy in the sauce last night ?