TOS Violations and Moderator Responses

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

+1. Re: the tone of the warning message: as I wrote earlier, at the end of my 2 day suspension, I had to click through an acknowledgement that looked very much like an admission of wrongdoing. I sure hope this changes (as well as the frivolous, sporadic, entirely unpredictable moderation). I'm no wilting daisy, but I really don't feel like being kicked around by that particular mod any more.

Well as i said earlier, I think our voices have been heard, I appreciate it, and I think when one side takes a step to the middle, the other side needs to also.Some of us are not without blame also.

I do agree with your sentiments about the one Mod, as do most, but hopefully everyone will take a lesson away from this, and we can all start fresh. Cooperation is a two way street. Let's give everyone a chance including ALL the Mods.

[B_J 2,752]

Well as i said earlier, I think our voices have been heard, I appreciate it, and I think when one side takes a step to the middle, the other side needs to also.Some of us are not without blame also.

I do agree with your sentiments about the one Mod, as do most, but hopefully everyone will take a lesson away from this, and we can all start fresh. Cooperation is a two way street. Let's give everyone a chance including ALL the Mods.

Keep in mind I've never been warned, thread banned, or suspended but I'm not sure what has really been accomplished. Penny is back and you get to talk to MBD.

Other than that?

I still don't know what some people say that gets them thread banned (or suspended) while others say similar things (in my opinion) and it is accepted.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

You captured my feelings, with you words about the warnings, much better than I ever could. Exactly.

I think that is partially why Tbone is more readily accepted. He closed a thread the other day and said words to the effect, " as usual you guys know the rules, please don't restart -thanks"

That is so much more palatable than " I highly suggest no one reopen this thread or attempt to restart of further Mod action will be taken" or words to that effect.

Oddly enough, he was the one who wrote the message I am complaining about. I am not trying to single anyone out, as it's water under the bridge now, but it's definitely a problem with more than one mod.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Penny Lane

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Keep in mind I've never been warned, thread banned, or suspended but I'm not sure what has really been accomplished. Penny is back and you get to talk to MBD.

Other than that?

I still don't know what some people say that gets them thread banned (or suspended) while others say similar things (in my opinion) and it is accepted.

Ok I will report you a couple of times over nothing. You will then figure it out

Oddly enough, he was the one who wrote the message I am complaining about. I am not trying to single anyone out, as it's water under the bridge now, but it's definitely a problem with more than one mod.

I think Ewok was saying that many of the Warning messages are canned and pre written, unless I mis understood him

[B_J 2,752]

Ok I will report you a couple of times over nothing. You will then figure it out

I guess you missed my point.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I guess you missed my point.

No i got you. LOL

I think more was done than just MBD and I got lifted a week early and penny came back

He said they are going to give more warnings " tap on shoulder first"

Give more examples of what is wrong , etc

Have more transparency

[B_J 2,752]

No i got you. LOL

I think more was done than just MBD and I got lifted a week early and penny came back

He said they are going to give more warnings " tap on shoulder first"

Give more examples of what is wrong , etc

Have more transparency

I mentioned my posting history because I think it is relevant. The moderation doesn't affect me in any way except for my enjoyment of the site. I'm not one who gets in any trouble but I still have issues with the moderation. And not just one mod. Here is what I have issues with.

There is so much inconsistent and, to an extent, partisan moderation. I'm really not sure why some words, names, phrases are allowed while others are not allowed. Why is it okay to talk about some subjects but if you talk about others in the exact same way, the thread will be closed.

What happened to the ideas of CEHST being a restricted forum? What about the idea of having different set of rules for CEHST, while still not allowing racism, sexism, etc? How about choosing mods from the regular and respected CEHST posters who can monitor CEHST more effectively? No offense, but these were the things I was hoping to see; not that two people can now talk to each other.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I mentioned my posting history because I think it is relevant. The moderation doesn't affect me in any way except for my enjoyment of the site. I'm not one who gets in any trouble but I still have issues with the moderation. And not just one mod. Here is what I have issues with.

There is so much inconsistent and, to an extent, partisan moderation. I'm really not sure why some words, names, phrases are allowed while others are not allowed. Why is it okay to talk about some subjects but if you talk about others in the exact same way, the thread will be closed.

What happened to the ideas of CEHST being a restricted forum? What about the idea of having different set of rules for CEHST, while still not allowing racism, sexism, etc? How about choosing mods from the regular and respected CEHST posters who can monitor CEHST more effectively? No offense, but these were the things I was hoping to see; not that two people can now talk to each other.

Brother I am agreeing with you. i think it is amazing you have never been suspended for anything. My "report you" remark, was meant to highlight, how sometimes just reporting something got people suspended for little or no reason

I think we have all felt the frustrations you are outlining, but I do feel EWOK did a good job or at least a start in the right direction of addressing many of them. I think we should give them a chance, realizing humans are not perfect, before we start criticizing again.

Did you read his meeting notes ?

[UncleBeer 244]

... but I do feel EWOK did a good job or at least a start in the right direction of addressing many of them.

I get a good impression of him. It's entirely possible he's having to deal with egos & reputations when dealing with mods.

I'm willing to give it a cautious chance, but I'm not entirely convinced past issues have been dealt with effectively. If you know what I mean.

[B_J 2,752]

Did you read his meeting notes ?

Read the notes, here's what I understood:

Amnesty: We'll bring back one person who's political opinion is exactly like almost everybody else. Others - not so much.

Review of Suspensions: People get a link to accomplish what exactly? I know it will be quicker; but what is really changing?

3 Strikes: We're working on that.

Family Friendly rules: We're working on that.

Warnings: The rules aren't changing, just the way we're informing people about it.

Wording on warnings: meh.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Read the notes, here's what I understood:

Amnesty: We'll bring back one person who's political opinion is exactly like almost everybody else. Others - not so much.

Review of Suspensions: People get a link to accomplish what exactly? I know it will be quicker; but what is really changing?

3 Strikes: We're working on that.

Family Friendly rules: We're working on that.

Warnings: The rules aren't changing, just the way we're informing people about it.

Wording on warnings: meh.

Ok, I see it as a step in the right direction. We are asking them to give us a chance, let's be open minded and extend the same courtesy until they prove us different

[B_J 2,752]

Ok, I see it as a step in the right direction. We are asking them to give us a chance, let's be open minded and extend the same courtesy until they prove us different

NEVER!!!1

Okay, let's see how it goes. Hopefully things improve.

[GandD 5,966]

I mentioned my posting history because I think it is relevant. The moderation doesn't affect me in any way except for my enjoyment of the site. I'm not one who gets in any trouble but I still have issues with the moderation. And not just one mod. Here is what I have issues with.

There is so much inconsistent and, to an extent, partisan moderation. I'm really not sure why some words, names, phrases are allowed while others are not allowed. Why is it okay to talk about some subjects but if you talk about others in the exact same way, the thread will be closed.

What happened to the ideas of CEHST being a restricted forum? What about the idea of having different set of rules for CEHST, while still not allowing racism, sexism, etc? How about choosing mods from the regular and respected CEHST posters who can monitor CEHST more effectively? No offense, but these were the things I was hoping to see; not that two people can now talk to each other.

It seems inconsistent because they're just responding to reports.

[B_J 2,752]

It seems inconsistent because they're just responding to reports.

Which is another reason why there should be another set of rules for CEHST

[GandD 5,966]

Which is another reason why there should be another set of rules for CEHST

That'll never happen. What's to motivate this site to do that? Its an immigration site with a couple loose screws rattling around in the basement. I think its cool its even allowed to exist since its so far away from the MO.