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[Sofiyya 1,687]

Assuming you noticed, its the actual law I was referring to before having posted the text of the law- which you to this point have not even gotten close to addressing. FAIL.

I guess you're not even reading the post you just quoted very well either...

You label opponents "homophobic" and "homophobes". That's as much of a value judgmet as the ones I've made against you that you object to so fervently.

If someone is against the law, they must be a homophobe, says the oh, so tolerant one.

Yea, you're the new Gandhi, dude. Working hard to bridge that divide.

Not.

Tolerance is not the same as promotion. Forget that again?

Apparently, you forgot it and you're trying to shoot the messenger that pointed that out to you.

[Zero Sum 305]

You label opponents "homophobic" and "homophobes". That's as much of a value judgmet as the ones I've made against you that you object to so fervently.

If someone is against the law, they must be a homophobe, says the oh, so tolerant one.

Yea, you're the new Gandhi, dude. Working hard to bridge that divide.

Not.

Here's a newsflash:

Saying homphobic things over and over and over... makes you a homophobe.

But I do leave the door open for them to clarify their position do I not? I ask if they are homophobes/bigots/racists/etc. The typical answer is a non-answer. I wonder why the cowardice.

Apparently, you forgot it and you're trying to shoot the messenger that pointed that out to you.

Not really. If you noticed the shooting started once stuff started to get made up, and not by me.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Your delusions of moral superiority are not my responsibility. I will continue to be fascinated by how imprisoned you are by your imagination. It's pretty simple; if you don't want to appear to be advocating a position, you may want to avoid advocating it.

Here's a newsflash:

Saying homphobic things over and over and over... makes you a homophobe.

Here's a newsflash:

You should avoid name-calling while promoting tolerance. If you lower yourself to the bigot's level, shazam! you sound like a bigot, too.

[Zero Sum 305]

Your delusions of moral superiority are not my responsibility. I will continue to be fascinated by how imprisoned you are by your imagination. It's pretty simple; if you don't want to appear to be advocating a position, you may want to avoid advocating it.

I can't find any claim to moral superiority. I though we covered that when I fully admitted my complete disrespect for intolerant a$$holes. I could just as well claim your defense of homophobes makes you as much a bigot as they are- but notice how I do not.

Furthermore, you continue misrepresenting my position (advocacy?). Must be time for a new dictionary.

Or you could just read the law and give an opinion on that, as that is where my foundation rests. Yours seems to rest on delusions and things which are confined to your imagination.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I can't find any claim to moral superiority. I though we covered that when I fully admitted my complete disrespect for intolerant a$$holes. I could just as well claim your defense of homophobes makes you as much a bigot as they are- but notice how I do not.

Furthermore, you continue misrepresenting my position (advocacy?). Must be time for a new dictionary.

Or you could just read the law and give an opinion on that, as that is where my foundation rests. Yours seems to rest on delusions and things which are confined to your imagination.

I don't defend homophobes; I accept that they have a right to their opinion. That's where you and I part ways.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Sofiyya

[Zero Sum 305]

Your delusions of moral superiority are not my responsibility. I will continue to be fascinated by how imprisoned you are by your imagination. It's pretty simple; if you don't want to appear to be advocating a position, you may want to avoid advocating it.

Here's a newsflash:

You should avoid name-calling while promoting tolerance. If you lower yourself to the bigot's level, shazam! you sound like a bigot, too.

Finally! That in bold I could agree with.

Whereas the name-calling is merely an identification of the bigotry being vocalized by... ummm... the bigot... well.. it seems you miss the entire point. Its already been covered too. Bigots don't like being called bigots because they know it undermines their position as bigots.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Only this time, there is nothing new to add. Cycle is over.

I don't defend homophobes; I accept that they have a right to their opinion. That's where you and I part ways.

I have already stated that its their right as well.

I just think they're bigots for supporting discriminatory policy. Like I said, read the law.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Finally! That in bold I could agree with.

Whereas the name-calling is merely an identification of the bigotry being vocalized by... ummm... the bigot... well.. it seems you miss the entire point. Its already been covered too. Bigots don't like being called bigots because they know it undermines their position as bigots.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Only this time, there is nothing new to add. Cycle is over.

I have already stated that its their right as well.

I didn't miss the entire point. I did the same thing you did, omitting the self-righteous claims of being tolerant. I was more honest than you, and that galls you or you wouldn't have spent all this time trying to change the actual perception you left by your behavior.

Actions speak louder than words.

[Zero Sum 305]

I didn't miss the entire point. I did the same thing you did, omitting the self-righteous claims of being tolerant. I was more honest than you, and that galls you or you wouldn't have spent all this time trying to change the actual perception you left by your behavior.

Actions speak louder than words.

It would be a very, very, long night, similar to many others where you do the same, if we were to wait for you to actually substantiate your claims while ignoring what was actually being stated.

Actions definitely do speak louder than words. Particularly those inside your imagination.

[Amby 490]

the gays are people too!

(sorry I hadn't said that for awhile)

[Sofiyya 1,687]

You're upset that I don't agree with your view of what was actually stated, but you also excuse your own rude behavior toward others. Tell me, did you sprain your wrist while patting yourself on the back?

You've said several times that you were done with me and with this thread. So, be done already. How can I miss you if you won't go away?

G'nite. I have Simmies to spoil in another imaginary realm.

It would be a very, very, long night, similar to many others where you do the same, if we were to wait for you to actually substantiate your claims while ignoring what was actually being stated.

Actions definitely do speak louder than words. Particularly those inside your imagination.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Sofiyya

[Sofiyya 1,687]

the gays are people too!

(sorry I hadn't said that for awhile)

Ya, they're not so special.

[Zero Sum 305]

It could be a secret crush or something. Or not. Maybe an insistence that homophobes are homophobes. I know, a novel idea- unfortunately undervalued in a style war.

Don't like my rudeness, don't play. If I were upset, I'd be imitating other posters, like those that cite a law without actually reading it.

But have a very good nite too.

The conflict here makes for interesting production at the office, and the late hours makes for an even cooler commute home from the Chicago Loop.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

the gays are people too!

(sorry I hadn't said that for awhile)

So are gang bangers...whats your point ?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

the gays are people too!

What about bi-curious middle-aged men that like to wear their wife's clothes? Are they people too?

Edited July 28, 2011 by Crusty Old Perv

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I come to a thread with you in it assuming that you will be rude. Doesn't bother me.

You did imitate other posters. That was my point. What you were selling could have used an example, but you failed to deliver. The sale fell through.

Better luck next time.

It could be a secret crush or something. Or not. Maybe an insistence that homophobes are homophobes. I know, a novel idea- unfortunately undervalued in a style war.

Don't like my rudeness, don't play. If I were upset, I'd be imitating other posters, like those that cite a law without actually reading it.

But have a very good nite too.

The conflict here makes for interesting production at the office, and the late hours makes for an even cooler commute home from the Chicago Loop.