Americans Show Rising Support for Women's Rights to choose: Poll

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Right, so therefore I'm not anti-choice. I like how now your saying "restricting"

You're on a sinking ship, just jump off and count your losses.

No... that's garbage. I have no problem with abortion, I have no problem with adoption either. I believe women, as competent adults, should be allowed to choose what's best for them with regards to starting a family.

Giving people a the right to choose from a single option is not "choice". If you go into a restaurant and everything on the menu is off except for something you don't like - do you order it anyway because that's the only choice available? Of course not, you eat somewhere else. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of going into a restaurant and being forced to eat something you don't like without having the freedom to go somewhere else to eat.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Not at all. Pro-death would exclude the choice of life. I don't know any pro-choice person that takes such position. That's a fail!

The potential for death to occur still equates to pro-death IMO. IE. The Death Penalty may not always be selected in trial, but I would still label the US Justice system as pro death.

[_Simpson_ 250]

BS. In order for a child to be given up for adoption, you have to first take away the women's choice not to go through the pregnancy. It's still anti-choice.

I want to give woman the choice to not have sex if she doesn't want to deal with the unintended consequences. I want to give woman the choice to do the responsible thing and put it up for adoption. I'm all about choice, the right ones of course.

Edited July 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

BS. In order for a child to be given up for adoption, you have to first take away the women's choice not to go through the pregnancy. It's still anti-choice.

not really - if she chose to bear it to full term and put the baby up for adoption, is that not a choice one could make?

[웃 910]

The potential for death to occur still equates to pro-death IMO. IE. The Death Penalty may not always be selected in trial, but I would still label the US Justice system as pro death.

I would say pro-life. There are about 2.5 million people currently incarcerated.

In the past 35 years there have been 1263 executions.....46 last year compared to 2.5 million inmates.

I think we should go back to pre-Reagan incarceration rates (as well as pre-Reagan taxes, pre-Reagan income disparity, pre-Reagan federal debt).

[_Simpson_ 250]

No... that's garbage. I have no problem with abortion, I have no problem with adoption either. I believe women, as competent adults, should be allowed to choose what's best for them with regards to starting a family.

Giving people a the right to choose from a single option is not "choice". If you go into a restaurant and everything on the menu is off except for something you don't like - do you order it anyway because that's the only choice available? Of course not, you eat somewhere else. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of going into a restaurant and being forced to eat something you don't like without having the freedom to go somewhere else to eat.

Why do you want to start the story at a point at when she is already in the restaurant. Remember this is a issue of life when it comes to the pro-lifers. We want you to avoid the restaurant all together so we don't have to hear you bitech about the crappy choice of menu items. So when I tell you to choose a different restaurant why would you turn around and tell me that I'm anti-choice.

What you seem to forget is that as a society we dont give people the right to do what ever they want. These limits and restrictions are usually based on moral grounds. Now if you want to talk about the moral aspect of this issue I will be here all day.

Edited July 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Why limit abortions to the first two trimesters? Why not give the option to terminate your progeny to say, the seventy-fifth trimester? Sometimes unwanted pregnancies don't manifest themselves until much, much later. Who has not regretted giving birth to a teenager?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

not really - if she chose to bear it to full term and put the baby up for adoption, is that not a choice one could make?

Yes, if she has that choice. But that's not what Simpson is talking about.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I want to give woman the choice to not have sex if she doesn't want to deal with the unintended consequences. I want to give woman the choice to do the responsible thing and put it up for adoption. I'm all about choice, the right ones of course my choices, of course.

Fixed. You see, it's all about YOUR choice for you. You deny others choices that belong to them rather than you which makes you anti-choice.

Why limit abortions to the first two trimesters? Why not give the option to terminate your progeny to say, the seventy-fifth trimester? Sometimes unwanted pregnancies don't manifest themselves until much, much later. Who has not regretted giving birth to a teenager?

Nobody has ever given birth to a teenager. FAIL!

[_Simpson_ 250]

Why limit abortions to the first two trimesters? Why not give the option to terminate your progeny to say, the seventy-fifth trimester? Sometimes unwanted pregnancies don't manifest themselves until much, much later. Who has not regretted giving birth to a teenager?

I would like to find the point at which a baby can feel pain and have that be a starting point and work from there.

Edited July 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

The terms ProChoice and ProLife frame the views of each side. When you reverse them, they make the other viewpoint look horrible...that was why each side selected them.

I would like to find the point at which a baby can feel pain and have that be a starting point and work from there.

I would like to define it as the point when the embryo has successfully established itself.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Fixed. You see, it's all about YOUR choice for you. You deny others choices that belong to them rather than you which makes you anti-choice.

And exactly why does this choice belong to them? Because its the law? If thats your angle then it would be more accurate to say that I'm pro-changing the law. Do we as Americans have the right to do anything we want? Our choices are limited due to the law. Would you argue that our laws are anti_choice.

Why is it all about the woman with you. What about the baby? Don't you want him to grow up and have choices?

Edited July 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Nobody has ever given birth to a teenager. FAIL!

Where do teenagers come from?

[_Simpson_ 250]

The terms ProChoice and ProLife frame the views of each side. When you reverse them, they make the other viewpoint look horrible...that was why each side selected them.

I would like to define it as the point when the embryo has successfully established itself.

How would you define established? The point at where it could survive outside the womb? If so why was that the deciding factor for you?

Edited July 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

How would you define established? The point at where it could survive outside the womb? If so why was that the deciding factor for you?

No, much earlier - when it embeds into the uterus lining.