The Political Ideas of Anders Behring Breivik

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Imagine what could happen if dialogue was engaged BEFORE the events took place.

Munich, 1938. Imagine...

[SMOKE 1,426]

wow. this dude is f'd up.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Who gives a ####### about what he believed? He's a terrorist, slim. He killed people to achieve a political goal.

[slim 1,530]

Munich, 1938. Imagine...

Good point. People here are that stupid too and if we put that "extreme" view out there, they'd probably follow it just like the dummies did back then. Sheeple will eat up any message that sounds good for them. We'd probably be the same.

So, the media is actually saving us by intentionally blacklisting any argument to the current norm? Hmm. Whoda thunk!

Who gives a ####### about what he believed? He's a terrorist, slim. He killed people to achieve a political goal.

Doesn't our military do that every day?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Slim, that is a bunch of relativist bvllshit that comes dangerously close to endorsing terrorism.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Good point. People here are that stupid too and if we put that "extreme" view out there, they'd probably follow it just like the dummies did back then. Sheeple will eat up any message that sounds good for them. We'd probably be the same.

I'm not sure you understood my response. Munich 1938 represents a collossal failure of what you suggested - engage in a dialogue with those that clearly not interested in a dialogue. Appeasing the Nazis back then did not avert what was coming.

[slim 1,530]

Slim, that is a bunch of relativist bvllshit that comes dangerously close to endorsing terrorism.

Endorsing terrorism? Is that like paying people to overthrow their own government?

I'm not sure you understood my response. Munich 1938 represents a collossal failure of what you suggested - engage in a dialogue with those that clearly not interested in a dialogue. Appeasing the Nazis back then did not avert what was coming.

So that happened because dialogue or that happened because the masses were too silly to understand what they should've done?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You seem to be shifting blame away from the perpetrator of the attacks. That's how you are endorsing it.

There are legitimate arguments about immigration policy, but that guy belongs nowhere near them.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So that happened because dialogue or that happened because the masses were too silly to understand what they should've done?

You should read up on the Munich agreement.

[slim 1,530]

You seem to be shifting blame away from the perpetrator of the attacks. That's how you are endorsing it.

Acknowledging the connection between his actions and the outcome of what will happen is not an endorsement any more than TV stations reporting on it being an endorsement.

There are legitimate arguments about immigration policy, but that guy belongs nowhere near them.

Who does?

You should read up on the Munich agreement.

Are you implying it's the fault of the extremists when society accepts their views and makes them popular?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Acknowledging the connection between his actions and the outcome of what will happen is not an endorsement any more than TV stations reporting on it being an endorsement.

Your meaning is unclear.

[slim 1,530]

Your meaning is unclear.

He killed kids to increase the effectiveness of his attack.

The intention of his attack (and most terrorism attacks) is to draw attention to the cause of the attacker and disrupt the lives of the attacked. That's not an endorsement, that's the simple definition of what terrorism is.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So what do you think should come out of these attacks?

[slim 1,530]

So what do you think should come out of these attacks?

Should?

I think at the very minimum Norway should consider instituting the death penalty. They should probaly look into concealed carry for teens at indoctrination summer camps as well.

I also think we should move on.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Not what I mean. You were suggesting earlier that this could have somehow been prevented if people had only listened to the guy before he decided to go batshit...