(Elhamdullah) finally married to hbib

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I don't think you did anything, Sarah. I think it was referring to szsz (or whatever). That's who I was referring to anyways.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I don't think you did anything, Sarah. I think it was referring to szsz (or whatever). That's who I was referring to anyways.

Ok because I keep reading my posts over and over trying to figure it out... honestly it was a general question and I really do not know what Henia's plans are.

Welcome back moods

Sarah

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Thanks, Sarah!

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I don't think you did anything, Sarah. I think it was referring to szsz (or whatever). That's who I was referring to anyways.

Ok because I keep reading my posts over and over trying to figure it out... honestly it was a general question and I really do not know what Henia's plans are.

Welcome back moods

Sarah

that's the way i read it too, her response was directed at szsz and not at anything you said.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I don't think you did anything, Sarah. I think it was referring to szsz (or whatever). That's who I was referring to anyways.

Ok because I keep reading my posts over and over trying to figure it out... honestly it was a general question and I really do not know what Henia's plans are.

Welcome back moods

Sarah

that's the way i read it too, her response was directed at szsz and not at anything you said.

Good! Thanks Charles!

[Together4ever 1]

Wait, what did I do? SZSZ asked if she was filing a K-3 and I was saying maybe it was possible to file a K-1 because I wasn't sure what was recognized in the US as a marriage and what is not. I love Henia I have nothing against her and I know nothing about Islamic marriage so what I was wondering, which was a general question is whether or not she could still technically do the K-1. I hope that I am not being called a bych for this cause I was curious as to what kind of marriage she had... I know nothing about halal and haram and I am not accusing anyone of anything so I hope I am not a "vicious bych" that was referred to. Henia knows I am very happy for her and I love her... my question was general. Yikes.

Sarah

... and I was mocked for vigilanti-ism?

Of course, I'm sure this is "different". Do you guys really want to do this to Henia?

I think most members dont' want to touch this issue with a 10 foot poll.

Ameen.

Do what to Henia? What did I do?

Sarah, who said YOU did anything? Simmer down.

[sarah and hicham 3]

Henia I am extremely happy for you and your HUSBAND regardless of what any scandalous backbiting bytches that might want to accuse you of haraam things say on this board.

I am sick of this place though! I'm sick of vampire bytches who issue fake fatawa and accuse others of fornicating here!! If anyone wants to issue fatawa then they should go discuss these things on an Islam board! This is an immigration board!!!!

This is the problem with stupid people who call themselves muslims is that they can't just be happy for other muslims without trying to call them out for sins that they think they are committing though they speak on no authority of God!

A real muslim would not try to call someone out in public like what goes on in this place because backbiting and slander is haraam haraam haraam!!!! So is spying on your brothers and sisters and judging them!

These same self proclaimed muftis don't even follow simple and basic commands of Allah yet they are always so quick to judge others here. Get a life!!

Congratulations to you Henia!!!!

I took "bytches" with an S to be plural which is why I thought this was partly aimed at me.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Congratulations, Heni on your marriage !!!! Your description of the wedding was fantastic -- what an incredible experience you had !

Wishing you both all the happiness in life together, and may God bless your marriage always

-MK

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[Veiled Princess 1]

My post and the words therin were not directed at anyone in particular (that would be attacking another member directly )

In addition, I should not have used the language I chose. I'm apologize, Sarah, if you thought it was directed at you.

I'm just really sickened when I see comments in a thread that was meant to announce one of the happiest moments in a dear sisters life.

When I see us women acting this way it really makes sense to me why the hadith states that the majority of the inhabitants of hell-fire are women. If we've got nothing better to do with our days than to gossip about what another sisters intentions are, it's a sad state of affairs we're in.

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I'm not moved by name calling. I used the word "if" alot because I don't know how she's filing either. But IF she still has to file a K1 because they are not married, then it would be incorrect for nothing to be said and the impression left that this is a halal event. It would not be.

Sorry, I know that everyone HATES to be told when Islam disagrees with your desires, but in cases of claiming tobe married when you are not, it does. Algeria is a Muslim country that proclims Islam as the state religion. If they require you to be registered to be married, why do the MUSLIMS here think they have the right to ignore that? I have hears the excuse that Muslims don't have to follow "kufr" rules, but how is this a "kufr" rule when other Muslims are telling you that's how to do it right?

The same know-it-all who would point to scholars to "prove" her own points is loathe to accept that the lawful ulema of Algeria have a reason for requiring registration. She wants to pretend it in "God's eyes" you can selectively follow the law when you wish to and when you don't you don't have to. She committed her sin, now she wants others to follow her path. I have the same right to point to a better direction.

The laws of mu'amalat are supposed to be formed in a manner that provides for the welfare of the people, to maintain justice, enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil. All Muslims are instructed to pursue this end, so it is encumbant upon us to show leadership in example when an issue arises that may leave an incorrect impression.

I speak up when the need is there. First, I asked the question, then I was careful not to assume, as I have been wrongfully accused of doing.

If someone is your friend, as many of you claim you are to Henia. then you wan tthe best for her, not the desires of your own heart. I know that there are those among you who want to be Muslim without embracing any rules, only your own opinions, but that will not stop me from fulfilling my duty as a Muslim to do better than what I wish to be.

Call me any name you want, feel any way you wish to about me. I am willing to stand alone knee deep in the dynya of this place if only one person learns that what passes for Islam here is a joke.

I will congratulate marriages when they happen, not when they don't.

My post and the words therin were not directed at anyone in particular (that would be attacking another member directly )

Who do you think you're fooling?

Edited September 15, 2006 by szsz

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szsz,

This is completely off topic for this forum, but it reminded me so I'm going to mention it. Many Hindus in India also have religious ceremonies without the legal paperwork that goes with it and then file K1s on that basis. In India, the legal paperwork is not mandatory and a religious marriage alone is considered a valid marriage. The trick is this, though: there is no way for a wife to claim her right from a marriage like this because you can't prove a religious ceremony took place properly. So many US citizen men of Indian origin go to India, get "married" and then leave their wives in India. They visit them once a year, have sex, and come back to the US to spend the rest of the year as a single man (presumably having more sex). The government of India has, for a long time, wanted to make marriage registration mandatory but they can not due to opposition from Hindu and Muslim extremist elements who object to the involvement of a secular "atheist" government in their religious affairs.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Registration in Algeria IS mandatory, but the real scandal is that it is MUSLIMS who are claiming that can be ignored. Is there to be no order for our ummah when everyone in it can make up the law as they please and throw stones at those who try to create order and tell the truth?

Have I lived so long to see our faith and its protections rejected and our theology dissolve into anarchy? I don't know what Henia is doing; she has said nothing. But I do know the intent of those who have made known their nafs.

Edited September 15, 2006 by szsz

[Veiled Princess 1]

Muslim extremist elements who object to the involvement of a secular "atheist" government in their religious affairs.

Why does it have to be an extremist view?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Muslim extremist elements who object to the involvement of a secular "atheist" government in their religious affairs.

Why does it have to be an extremist view?

In India, most Hindus and Muslims register their marriages per guidance of the government. Registration is not mandatory but the govt makes no secret of strongly advising that people do it, primarily to protect women. It is only the people at the extreme end of the religious right of both faiths who oppose it.